God, I love Bernie!

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17. NO, it's social democracy, not 'Democratic socialism'. Huge difference, & it's political suicide in

reactionary 'Murica to use that false label of democratic socialism.

There are NO socialists in Congress. Bernie is not one. He and others are falsely self-labelling, and it is just so self-defeating.

Democratic socialism (and socialism in general) requires state appropriation of the means of production. Bernie has stated many times he does not believe in that. No one in Congress does.

All he and the other progs want is bog standard Nordic style social democracy.

I can assure you that we here in the Nordics are NOT socialist nations. In fact our capitalist sectors are more vibrant and robust on many levels (far higher productivity per hour worked for but one example) than the American one.

We just regulate capitalism to a far higher, far fairer level, to curb its natural excesses and bad tendencies, and to make it work synergistically with our expansive social welfare states to provide a higher standard of living and with FAR less wealth inequality than the US has. Welfare to us here means 'live well', welfare in 'Murica has some bizarre stigma attached to it as only for the poor and for so-called lazy.