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llmart

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44. I disagree.

Thu Sep 15, 2022, 08:52 PM

Sep 2022

My granddaughter learned Spanish in preschool and kindergarten. Her preschool had a woman from South America who had been teaching Spanish there for years. She was wonderful. I used to get videos of my little sweetie, counting in Spanish, pointing to colors and saying them in Spanish. She's 7 now and she can converse in some very basic ways in Spanish. Her vocabulary in English at 3 years old blew me away.

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I just found out my kid's kindergarten class is teaching Russian 40 mins per day. [View all] honest.abe Sep 2022 OP

They're doing in anticipation of Trump seizing power in the near future? canuckledragger Sep 2022 #1

Price George's county??????? jimfields33 Sep 2022 #93

WOW! elleng Sep 2022 #2

I dont know. Maybe some Russian Oligarch is on the school board. honest.abe Sep 2022 #8

Why the hell are they teaching any foreign languages... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #3

Exactly.. English should be the focus at his age. honest.abe Sep 2022 #6

Because it's a great age to pick up a foreign language. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #9

It's a better age to pick up your first language. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #14

Kids' brains can do both at once, actually. They're enviously plastic. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #16

Many don't understand that Effete Snob Sep 2022 #26

I really should stop being surprised by this place, but I'll admit it, this one is getting me. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #28

Yup Effete Snob Sep 2022 #33

I know! WTH? Iris Sep 2022 #183

I'm gobsmacked. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #212

+1 Totally agree.n/t ChazII Sep 2022 #228

Agreed - I read the title and my immediate reaction was to wish I had a child Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #255

+1 Exactly. n/t FSogol Sep 2022 #41

Picking up a second language at that age teaches what a concept is. That applegrove Sep 2022 #55

Because... Effete Snob Sep 2022 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Sep 2022 #159

Correct Effete Snob Sep 2022 #290

I read a book about the brain that said kids under 10 absorb language extremely well. MLAA Sep 2022 #37

You read a book? Effete Snob Sep 2022 #66

Really? LisaL Sep 2022 #73

Children shouldn't be taught to read books Effete Snob Sep 2022 #77

All righty then. LisaL Sep 2022 #83

I am assuming that is humor of some type... nt EX500rider Sep 2022 #261

One would assume it is humor in general Effete Snob Sep 2022 #284

Yep... perfect time. nt prodigitalson Sep 2022 #108

My daughters went to Montessori for preschool and kindergarten karynnj Sep 2022 #189

this is a fact, even earlier. My granddaughters were hearing Dutch and English since they were born msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #193

Your expertise in education and child development is what, exactly? Effete Snob Sep 2022 #11

I'm sure it would be nice instruction in a perfect world. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #19

Your expertise is what? Effete Snob Sep 2022 #27

It's my opinion, just like your opinions is yours and your... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #39

Amazingly enough, when I was growing up, in just about every household that I niyad Sep 2022 #145

As others have pointed out, learning another language actually improves proficiency Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #259

Most kids won't ever be professional musicians or athletes, so we should probably cut music WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #29

Don't quit your day job for a career in comedy. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #48

Teaching a foreign language helps them learn English Effete Snob Sep 2022 #56

Agree about helping to learn English. BadgerKid Sep 2022 #115

I don't care whom you is, yall aint got no business teachin them furrin talks to younguns Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #184

Once a kid from an English-language home hits kindergarten, there's not a lot of "learning" left to WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #61

What are you talking about, there's not a lot of learning left? W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #82

I'm curious, what new things are you learning about the language in your 40s? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #86

Gesso. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #95

Right, there's a difference between learning vocabulary words and understanding how language works. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #99

And my point is, no, they don't. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #109

I'm not simplifying anything. I'm definitely wasting my time, though, and I regret that I ever bit WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #113

Gesso is an Italian word derived from Latin Rob H. Sep 2022 #274

Very bad analogy. honest.abe Sep 2022 #67

You seem to have a very clear idea about what he might do with his life. I'd encourage you to let WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #69

LOL.. honest.abe Sep 2022 #72

It seems a bit ignorant to think that language education is about language use later in life Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #128

The point isn't to make the kids fluent in Russian so they can use it in later life. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #129

Once again, they are kindergarteners. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #142

How about Chinese? treestar Sep 2022 #281

Did they bring that program back at Linden Hill? Effete Snob Sep 2022 #285

don't know - kids in a different state treestar Sep 2022 #294

Dude. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2022 #279

Wrong. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #309

I think your time would be better spent researching this topic... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2022 #321

Spanish would make sense since so many Americans speak it. Not Russian. n/t pnwmom Sep 2022 #87

For that very reason, it makes LESS sense Effete Snob Sep 2022 #122

They are KINDERGARTENERS. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #125

My kindergartner grandchild reads English quite well Effete Snob Sep 2022 #127

Well, aren't you special? nt pnwmom Sep 2022 #134

"Quite well" is subjective. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #138

If they don't know language, then how do we communicate with them? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #130

Didn't you claim you were bowing out of this thread because you were wasting time? W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #140

I did but I changed my mind because your comment didn't make sense to me. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #198

Very basically... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #307

They don't know a lot of words. But they know how language *works.* WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #311

Fighting for them to learn relevant topics... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #314

. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #315

This is such a silly argument. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #317

I...wasn't arguing. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #318

Gotta disagree with you on the German during WW2 Coventina Sep 2022 #187

Boom. There it is - explicitly. Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #260

learning it before age 7 before the ear "hardens" treestar Sep 2022 #280

Not true. In Canada they teach both French and English in schools pnwmom Sep 2022 #132

The point here is not bilingual education Effete Snob Sep 2022 #136

There are also other ForgedCrank Sep 2022 #147

Ha, this post reminded me of HS and all the Spanish speakers taking French class. Ace Rothstein Sep 2022 #167

Bilingual kid in my family treestar Sep 2022 #283

Don't assume they generally look for ones that no child knows muriel_volestrangler Sep 2022 #306

Yes. And some Canadian federal govt jobs require both. roamer65 Sep 2022 #289

Spanish should be required in schools. roamer65 Sep 2022 #288

Why not a language more prevalent, like Spanish? BradAllison Sep 2022 #96

What did the teacher study in college? Effete Snob Sep 2022 #120

No, it would be smart. It would allow the non-Spanish speakers to better communicate pnwmom Sep 2022 #135

Maybe because sarisataka Sep 2022 #22

Wrong. They speak English already. And wrong: learning a second language HELPS English Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #35

When programmer candidates applied at my past two jobs, musicians were preferred over others. TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #100

During WW2, one of the best orchestras in whole country was scientists & engineers at Los Alamos. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #103

How do you reconcile that... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #104

1.They measure English literacy. 2.School language programs have withered (funding). 3 Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #111

Your answers... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #121

Forget Russian. Sub any other second language and the kids will speak better English than none. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #124

Yes, I did. And I took them at face value... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #133

1. English literacy is not always the primary language of immigrants! Duh. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #139

No one said it was! W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #143

I agree with everything, except your comment about teaching Russian, now, being ignorant. Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #263

Now the reason is economic, not political. Russian won't be very *useful*. But like I said Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #287

I disagree. llmart Sep 2022 #44

Exactly. Language synergy makes a person better at their mother language by learning other languages Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #57

How DARE you bring facts into this Effete Snob Sep 2022 #68

Sorry, you are right Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #74

What if they taught her Russian instead of Spanish? honest.abe Sep 2022 #165

I would have no problem with that. llmart Sep 2022 #216

How would you rank Russian as useful/practical language to learn as a 5 year old? honest.abe Sep 2022 #220

It's not about practicality - Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #264

How about dancing the Hokey Pokey? Effete Snob Sep 2022 #286

Hmmm . . . unless, just perhaps, it wasn't about learning a specific dance - Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #313

So that's what it's all about! Effete Snob Sep 2022 #319

Teaching the same word in two languages reinforces that word for most kids. haele Sep 2022 #131

I had weekly Spanish classes in kindergarten xmas74 Sep 2022 #153

I wish it was Spanish. honest.abe Sep 2022 #166

So your problem is the language itself? xmas74 Sep 2022 #256

It's pretty clear that it's the politics. n/t Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #266

Is this an imported thread... OneGrassRoot Sep 2022 #202

IKR? grantcart Sep 2022 #257

Because RobinA Sep 2022 #205

Learning foreign languages is much easier the younger you are. BlackSkimmer Sep 2022 #211

Because that is when it is best to start teaching different languanges. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2022 #322

I was trying to learn Russian nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2022 #4

My old high school offered Russian as a language choice. blue neen Sep 2022 #5

I Took It For 3 Years ProfessorGAC Sep 2022 #117

Why is Russian inappropriate? How is a language "inappropriate"? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #7

Why is it appropriate? honest.abe Sep 2022 #10

IMHO, we need people who are fluent in different languages blue neen Sep 2022 #12

In kindergarten?? honest.abe Sep 2022 #15

It's much easier to learn languages when one is young. blue neen Sep 2022 #21

By the time a kid from an English-language home is in kindergarten, they've been learning English WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #23

Its a total waste of time. honest.abe Sep 2022 #25

And I am not a professional soccer player Effete Snob Sep 2022 #30

How do you know that? blue neen Sep 2022 #42

He'll probably never learn enough math to be a nuclear physicist but that doesn't mean he shouldn't meadowlander Sep 2022 #52

Terrible analogy. honest.abe Sep 2022 #59

No, the point is the curriculum doesn't have to justify mastery level in a subject to teach meadowlander Sep 2022 #71

Wow, can't believe I'm reading this here. Treefrog Sep 2022 #158

I mean, can't you? Sympthsical Sep 2022 #171

Ha. You are absolutely right! Treefrog Sep 2022 #262

You said that so much more concisely than I did. n/t Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #267

я тоже не могу в это поверить Effete Snob Sep 2022 #291

Professional educators beleive it has a lot of benefits Effete Snob Sep 2022 #17

Because it's the best age to learn language, even more than one. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #18

He will never learn Russian to the point of being useful. honest.abe Sep 2022 #20

Well, not with that attitude he won't! WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #24

There are millions of new things he can learn that are more useful than Russian. honest.abe Sep 2022 #31

How are you quantifying "useful" here? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #36

If you don't understand this obvious point then I cant help you. honest.abe Sep 2022 #45

I'm just asking what you consider "useful" to be, as everyone has a different idea. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #92

For what it's worth... TheProle Sep 2022 #118

It's the process of learning which expands the development of the brain Effete Snob Sep 2022 #46

And you know this how?? Disaffected Sep 2022 #34

We certainly are not going to encourage him to learn Russian. honest.abe Sep 2022 #38

Does your wife speak Tagalog with him? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #43

Well I can't really argue with that. Disaffected Sep 2022 #54

That's not the point. Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #269

It could greatly enhance a military career. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2022 #47

LOL! honest.abe Sep 2022 #50

Now, in 2022, Russian is inappropriate. Their music is great but their global influence now is awful Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #51

So you're going to dismiss an entire country because you don't like their current politics? Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #270

Wrong about "politics" and Florida school boards. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #293

More people speak Russian than German, and Russia is widely considered a more powerful country Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #312

You are missing the point and you are gauging thing pre-Putins-War. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #316

Global influence doesn't make a language "inappropriate." No language is "inappropriate." WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #276

Sorry, my wording was poor or I was space limited in the title. My meaning is Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #299

How is it useful? Russia is at war with Ukraine...and with us really...they interfered with our Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #217

And yet you can't figure out how it is useful? LisaL Sep 2022 #237

Well we definitely don't want to learn sarisataka Sep 2022 #243

lol seems to me you answered your own question WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #275

My EFL students take English and one other Tetrachloride Sep 2022 #13

This is an amusing thread nt sarisataka Sep 2022 #32

Poor kid. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #40

Forced to learn a FOREIGN language sarisataka Sep 2022 #63

I guess this is where I confess to being fluent in Russian, capable in three other languages, and WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #88

Cool. electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #146

I Am Very Envious RobinA Sep 2022 #207

Maybe prohibited from learning a foreign language. Mariana Sep 2022 #89

I know, right? blue neen Sep 2022 #76

What's the problem? DET Sep 2022 #49

Its a waste of time when my kid needs to learn so many other things. honest.abe Sep 2022 #53

Respect for other world cultures is a waste of time? He certainly doesn't seem to be picking it up meadowlander Sep 2022 #58

We are an international family and love learning about cultures. honest.abe Sep 2022 #62

How do you know he will never use it? LisaL Sep 2022 #70

Well we certain wont encourage him to learn it further. honest.abe Sep 2022 #78

Does your wife speak Tagalog with him? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #79

Yes. honest.abe Sep 2022 #80

If you want your kid to learn what you want him to learn, LisaL Sep 2022 #81

The school offers a lot of languages treestar Sep 2022 #296

So, what cultures do you consider to be worth learning about? Lancero Sep 2022 #182

We are talking languages not cultures. honest.abe Sep 2022 #196

First - that seems disingenuous (given some earlier comments) or, at best, ignorant. Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #271

So if he wants to take Latin in HS or college? treestar Sep 2022 #295

Kids that age are constantly learning. Everything they do is learning Bucky Sep 2022 #105

Kids are not like that treestar Sep 2022 #151

What fun! The kids won't become bilingual (unless they keep at it for years) but Croney Sep 2022 #60

Get it. (Not necessarily Russian, but any 2nd language will help your child, the younger the better) Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #64

My biggest complaint is the choice of Russian. honest.abe Sep 2022 #84

Yes. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #85

I stand by my comment. I refrained from saying what I'll say now: that your best allies ... Hekate Sep 2022 #106

Russian is spoken by more people than Italian, German, Arabic, Japanese, or Korean Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #272

Programming languages have aspects of language (expression) and math BadgerKid Sep 2022 #116

IMO in US one should learn Spanish treestar Sep 2022 #152

Agreed. Spanish is a much better choice at this time, but skip Russian and go to Chinese after. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #154

Russian and Slavic languages in general are very hard to learn. DBoon Sep 2022 #75

Did you call the principal? Did you call the School Board office? Did you ask the teacher? Hekate Sep 2022 #90

I did ask his teacher. honest.abe Sep 2022 #91

I find it very nice that individual parents aren't able to dictate the curriculum. LisaL Sep 2022 #94

Maybe some Russian parents did dictate the curriculum. honest.abe Sep 2022 #98

Russian parents could teach their kids Russian at home. LisaL Sep 2022 #102

Did anyone check recent contributions to the school? PlutosHeart Sep 2022 #107

Hundreds of millions of people use it. LisaL Sep 2022 #180

It is spoken by more people in the world Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #273

Arabic is on their list too treestar Sep 2022 #298

Language learning is easy when very young, & always good for the brain... Hekate Sep 2022 #97

Yes but.. honest.abe Sep 2022 #101

Perfect! Effete Snob Sep 2022 #292

Oh no! Horrors! VMA131Marine Sep 2022 #110

We learned German at that age and this was not that many decades post WWII. My WWII veteran hlthe2b Sep 2022 #112

I'll never object to any kid learning another language tishaLA Sep 2022 #114

What about your kids feelings? womanofthehills Sep 2022 #119

From the height of the Cold War TheProle Sep 2022 #123

There's nothing wrong with that. It's a difficult language Ocelot II Sep 2022 #126

TY electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #148

What an odd thing to get upset about hardluck Sep 2022 #137

I agree it is a language not a political indoctrination ripcord Sep 2022 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Sep 2022 #181

I don't understand the outrage. ForgedCrank Sep 2022 #144

Never underestimate how insidious they are sarisataka Sep 2022 #161

Wise move. Better safe than sorry. Chellee Sep 2022 #178

I am so disappointed, shocked even, at some of the responses in this thread. niyad Sep 2022 #149

You misunderstand then. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #150

Oh, I do not misunderstand at all. Experience in other languages helps niyad Sep 2022 #157

So it has been said. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #162

But it is an answer to that problem. Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #277

then what else? treestar Sep 2022 #300

They say that pre-K is vital to a child's development. W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #310

I learned first year Russian waaaaay back... electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #155

Why not? xmas74 Sep 2022 #156

In kindergarten they should be focusing on the basics. honest.abe Sep 2022 #164

There can be ForgedCrank Sep 2022 #168

I had Spanish in kindergarten. Nt xmas74 Sep 2022 #254

Should we stop teaching Russian literature as well? Zeitghost Sep 2022 #160

Ridiculous comment. honest.abe Sep 2022 #163

Any second language is a benefit to a growing mind Zeitghost Sep 2022 #213

Thanks for the personal insult. honest.abe Sep 2022 #218

You're negative reaction is based entirely Zeitghost Sep 2022 #238

Nyet. honest.abe Sep 2022 #241

Is that the only word in Russian that you know? LisaL Sep 2022 #245

You are on a roll!! honest.abe Sep 2022 #248

You came here for some Russian bashing Zeitghost Sep 2022 #251

I learned French starting in first grade Sympthsical Sep 2022 #169

What if they taught you Russian instead of French? honest.abe Sep 2022 #170

I would then know as much Russian today as I do French Sympthsical Sep 2022 #172

Most people would prefer learning French over Russian. honest.abe Sep 2022 #173

So this about grinding a cultural axe Sympthsical Sep 2022 #174

Not about culture. honest.abe Sep 2022 #175

French is just as practical Sympthsical Sep 2022 #177

Well it's not about you and your specific situation. honest.abe Sep 2022 #199

I feel sorry for your kid's teachers, considering you are LisaL Sep 2022 #179

We are not "bugging" his teacher. honest.abe Sep 2022 #201

You are worried about your child being behind sarisataka Sep 2022 #215

We are not going to opt out. honest.abe Sep 2022 #219

I would agree that logically sarisataka Sep 2022 #225

But it's not about practicality of the language Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #278

Russian is a great Language to learn. Imagine being able to read Tolstoy and many other Classics JI7 Sep 2022 #176

Dostoevski's "Notes from Underground" is one of my favorite novels. betsuni Sep 2022 #190

Russian was offered as a language mnhtnbb Sep 2022 #185

The local Chapel Hill Carrboro City Schools mnhtnbb Sep 2022 #186

Don't really see why this is a big deal. Kaleva Sep 2022 #188

I Kinda see the point Willto Sep 2022 #191

If it were up to me (and the OP will be very glad that it is not)................ DFW Sep 2022 #192

That would be great to learn multiple languages. honest.abe Sep 2022 #204

In some countries here, especially small ones, they start as soon as school starts DFW Sep 2022 #208

I totally get the idea of learning multiple languages is great. honest.abe Sep 2022 #210

1st grade vs pre is a tough call DFW Sep 2022 #214

This message was self-deleted by its author honest.abe Sep 2022 #194

PG County? msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #195

Prince George's county public school near DC. honest.abe Sep 2022 #197

Interestingly, I wondered if it was in close proximity to DC msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #200

No its not that. Its just a program to expose kids to new languages. honest.abe Sep 2022 #203

Make more sense if it were Spanish. Knowing how to Emile Sep 2022 #206

Yeah, we would have been very happy with Spanish. honest.abe Sep 2022 #209

That's fucking weird. Someone should look into it. Wingus Dingus Sep 2022 #221

That's exactly my point. So odd many here don't get it. honest.abe Sep 2022 #222

They're trying to "get" you by saying you think learning foreign languages is somehow Wingus Dingus Sep 2022 #223

The opposition to Russian is simply based on current events sarisataka Sep 2022 #240

Actually, it's based on GOP ties to Russia and their infiltration of our government. Wingus Dingus Sep 2022 #249

Is this a new program? sarisataka Sep 2022 #250

It's a little weird considering the complete and thorough GOP takeover Wingus Dingus Sep 2022 #252

My neighbor learned Mandarin. That is because one of the teachers moved here from China. Dysfunctional Sep 2022 #224

My niece was out into a Spanish immersion program in Kindergarten BannonsLiver Sep 2022 #226

I wish it was Spanish. honest.abe Sep 2022 #231

Learning foreign languages expands children's minds iemanja Sep 2022 #227

Good grief. This has nothing to do with "hating Russia". honest.abe Sep 2022 #229

I don't buy that iemanja Sep 2022 #230

LOL.. read minds?? honest.abe Sep 2022 #232

You made it clear that you hate the Russian language. LisaL Sep 2022 #234

What on earth are you talking about?? honest.abe Sep 2022 #244

Really? LisaL Sep 2022 #246

No, I read your post iemanja Sep 2022 #235

That comment was in haste and dumb now that I am somewhat over the outrage. honest.abe Sep 2022 #242

Well, clearly. LisaL Sep 2022 #233

I don't agree kcr Sep 2022 #236

Yes, some people here are proud of their LisaL Sep 2022 #239

+1 Celerity Sep 2022 #247

I think this is fantastic! Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #253

It's always good to know a second language. gldstwmn Sep 2022 #258

This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Sep 2022 #265

More Simple Explanation Deep State Witch Sep 2022 #268

As a final note to this loooong thread.. honest.abe Sep 2022 #282

Good luck 😀 Meowmee Sep 2022 #304

Thank you. honest.abe Sep 2022 #305

Yes I would choose Spanish Meowmee Sep 2022 #308

Best time to learn. whistler162 Sep 2022 #297

V chem problema? jmowreader Sep 2022 #301

Jesus fucking christ Blecht Sep 2022 #302

Read my comments in this thread. honest.abe Sep 2022 #303

. Effete Snob Sep 2022 #320