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DemocratSinceBirth

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3. Joe can't intervene and the DOJ would be held in contempt.

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Sat Sep 17, 2022, 07:17 PM

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What happens if the DOJ refuses to hand over the classified documents to the Special Master? [View all] Raven Sep 2022 OP

can joe intervene or does it go to scotus then? samnsara Sep 2022 #1

Joe can't intervene and the DOJ would be held in contempt. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #3

Nah, they can still appeal to SCOTUS. NT Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #16

If the 11th Circuit rules against them ripcord Sep 2022 #17

SCOTUS can issue the stay pending appeal Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #21

Nonsense. (On there's only being two choices) FBaggins Sep 2022 #28

But Cannon's ruling suggests she/ the SM could determine Trump is the rightful owner of the docs Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #33

The evaluated scenario was that SCOTUS agreed FBaggins Sep 2022 #35

If Garland was found in contempt, who would enforce that ruling? Raven Sep 2022 #5

We have a constitutional crisis. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #7

theyre co equal branches one shouldnt be able to order the other around Fullduplexxx Sep 2022 #14

Nope SCantiGOP Sep 2022 #18

The argument is DOJ should defy the court, get sanctioned, and then force the court to enforce it. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #24

That's not an argument SCantiGOP Sep 2022 #25

That's why I'm not making it. BTW Andrew Jackson defied a court order. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2022 #26

It wasn't coincidence SCantiGOP Sep 2022 #32

Checks and Balances Zeitghost Sep 2022 #34

Who (and what army) would enforce the court order against the president? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #15

No one. Congress could impeach him. But that's about it. Buckeyeblue Sep 2022 #8

Just about everything the AG does requires the judicial branch to play along FBaggins Sep 2022 #31

IDK but it is a good thing this isnt in reverse, cons would start SHOOTING if Eliot Rosewater Sep 2022 #2

if they refuse the documents would likely be declared inadmissible at any future trial Takket Sep 2022 #4

Inadmissible on what grounds? Raven Sep 2022 #6

Imaginary/bullshit 4th Am violations RockRaven Sep 2022 #9

Who Says He'll Ever Suffer Any Consequences? nt SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #11

The documents in question are those seized via SW on 8/4 Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #12

There aren't any PRA charges FBaggins Sep 2022 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Sep 2022 #30

Then it goes to SCOTUS, and DOJ would seek a stay of the 11th ruling pending appeal. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #10

Then the entire DoJ will be arrested and put in jail. Fair play and equal protection, y'know. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #13

I think this might be moot. DOJ won't refuse an order, if appeals fail Raven123 Sep 2022 #19

Obviously dweller Sep 2022 #20

Then the DOJ does as suggested. Igel Sep 2022 #22

Make Copies. You know Trump has. Captain Zero Sep 2022 #23

DOJ isn't being asked to give up physical possession of the classified documents onenote Sep 2022 #27