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stopdiggin

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84. sorry. not buying.

Thu Mar 16, 2023, 10:50 PM

Mar 2023

are there problems? failures? inequities? Oh, hell yes. (as, I might add, is true for virtually every system and social network the world around - and through every age) Does that mean that, "They never get anything right ..", "They always get away .." NO - it does not. And the fact that you choose to see the world through that sort of sooty lens - that's on you. But it's no more a 'fact', or 'truth' - than saying "all men are pigs and creeps."

People are being investigated - people are being prosecuted - people are being hauled before grand juries for testimony ... I'm sorry that you are not satisfied. But what I won't endorse is you making a blanket statement that it all means 'nothing.' That's a distortion of the real picture - and simply not true.

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Willis told us weeks ago what she is going to do. She said it in court. [View all] fightforfreedom Mar 2023 OP

I hate to say: we have heard this before Srkdqltr Mar 2023 #1

I would have hoped SpamWyzer Mar 2023 #2

That is what I meant. You said it much better than I could. Srkdqltr Mar 2023 #3

+1. Have to wait regardless. Patience is for health of self. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #5

Agree 100% Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #19

Evidence does not indict. Grand Juries do. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #14

We haven't had reports like this. That close to the action. There is a difference. LiberalFighter Mar 2023 #26

'then nothing'. Than is used like a comparative, as in "This is better than that." panader0 Mar 2023 #30

After all that we've anticipated over the past years, I'll believe it if and when I see it. Firestorm49 Mar 2023 #49

and soon, it will have been MONTHS ago, and then YEARS ago Baltimike Mar 2023 #4

"not one thing will fucking happen", and then it does. You can be right now but wrong long Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #6

Oh, how I *wish* I were wrong. "And then it does" already hasn't. Baltimike Mar 2023 #9

I hereby grant you your wish. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #20

Nice try. No dice. Baltimike Mar 2023 #27

Like I said, self-deception. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #40

like *I* said, Two brothers Darryl does NOT justice make. Baltimike Mar 2023 #42

Again, are you serious about justice or are you just posturing? Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #60

Please see post #9 Baltimike Mar 2023 #94

I saw your post #9. I responded to it, as I did to your other posts. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #95

Dude, I don't need to show a g-damned thing... Baltimike Mar 2023 #96

Sure you don't have to. But you just showed me something very telling. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #97

Nice try. No dice. (again) Baltimike Mar 2023 #98

I can't change your position? No shit! Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #99

The FACT is that this has already been slow walked, and Trump Baltimike Mar 2023 #100

+1. can understand frustration stopdiggin Mar 2023 #33

I hope and pray that I am wrong, but so far, for YEARS now Baltimike Mar 2023 #43

Yep. nt BlackSkimmer Mar 2023 #48

sorry. not buying. stopdiggin Mar 2023 #84

broadbrush much? Justice delayed is justice denied Baltimike Mar 2023 #87

so now we're back to quoting bumper stickers stopdiggin Mar 2023 #88

Nope. Please stop broadbrushing Baltimike Mar 2023 #93

So many are negative about it because it is not happening now. LiberalFighter Mar 2023 #28

Not that's it's not happening now...it's been YEARS. It's not happening EVER Baltimike Mar 2023 #44

Years? For some prosecutions. Like what he did before he was President. LiberalFighter Mar 2023 #62

Yes. YEARS. Baltimike Mar 2023 #63

I will listen Miguelito Loveless Mar 2023 #7

Ms. Willis is not the DOJ lonely bird Mar 2023 #8

When/if there is a prosecution is not the biggest issue. jaxexpat Mar 2023 #10

All I know is when it happens Cheezoholic Mar 2023 #11

Exactly Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #21

No matter what Willis does, the actual findings of guilt or innocence will ultimately be in the hand Samrob Mar 2023 #12

Amen. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #23

I dont understand how they let it drag on so long that he is actually running again Blues Heron Mar 2023 #13

It's called due process. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #18

It is not that complicated, not that big. Its happened many times down through the ages Blues Heron Mar 2023 #22

Exactly Emile Mar 2023 #25

It is not complicated????? It is not big??????? That is absurd. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #31

Exactly again - NT CommonHumanity Mar 2023 #34

It is complicated, and it is big. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #35

Well he is out there running again, whipping up crowds Blues Heron Mar 2023 #37

When do think Trump and the coup plotters should have been arrested? fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #38

Yesterday Blues Heron Mar 2023 #39

So let's get this straight; Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #45

Do YOU not want to see justice done? Are YOU happy Trump is free to run again? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #59

Just as I suspected: it all comes down with who is happy with what, justice be damned. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #66

You guys just can't make a post without including a ridiculous straw man, can you? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #78

That's not it. The ridiculous strawman you keep pointing at is nowhere to be found. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #82

Which is why I have my doubts he'll get indicted. newdayneeded Mar 2023 #86

This is actually the first rational argument in favor of Trump not being indicted Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #89

Thank you for the reply! newdayneeded Mar 2023 #90

Enjoy! Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #91

This is the biggest case in US history: most defendants (1000+, 1000 more), biggest defendants Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #53

In the rest of the world and down through history this just a plain vanilla corrupt leader case Blues Heron Mar 2023 #55

Because the US has a strong but weird legal system unlike any other country. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #64

There are Americans who do not know how are legal system works. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #65

Safeguards protecting the rump before indictment protect Biden fr weaponized DoJ maybe later. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #67

Brazil... Where dissidents were disappearing as recently as last year... AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #79

and so rule of law should be compromised stopdiggin Mar 2023 #85

Some people are determined to be proven wrong. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #68

Exactly Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #24

Well I believe there is some politics involved. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #32

I have no gripe with Fani Willis gab13by13 Mar 2023 #15

It's like the DOJ is wanting Georgia or NY to do their job. Emile Mar 2023 #16

You don't know that. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #29

I do know that Fani said she opened gab13by13 Mar 2023 #36

Exactly. So why compare what you don't know to what you don't know? Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #41

Shhh, don't question their narrative AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #52

Do you support the new Georgia law gab13by13 Mar 2023 #54

I'm not sure how that is relevant to this post AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #56

I agree with that. Willis's investigation has been active, as proven by the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #58

Amen. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #17

We were also told the timeline Jarqui Mar 2023 #46

Justice delayed is Justice denied. flying_wahini Mar 2023 #47

I believe and trust her, and I understand the things she might need to get in place first ecstatic Mar 2023 #50

Lol. Every single day. BlackSkimmer Mar 2023 #51

Some people are determined to be proven wrong by ignoring the facts right in front of them. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #61

Two years and two months ago, a group of people attempted to overthrow Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #57

+1 That is the facts! Emile Mar 2023 #69

Facts that prove nothing. The investigations are still ongoing and moving towards indictments. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #72

Yes some people are ignoring the facts! Emile Mar 2023 #73

In this case, it is your view that the US Constitution and Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #70

Yes, you are getting that right. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #71

Well, then it's your problem, and not that of DOJ Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #74

I was agreeing with you. fightforfreedom Mar 2023 #77

Sorry, I was anticipating Scrivener's post Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #80

No. As with most of your arguments, that's a ridiculous straw man. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #76

Tell me more! Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #81

Well stated!!!!! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #75

I'm not a fan of double ricochet conspiracy theories, but... Bucky Mar 2023 #83

When will all these wonderful things happen? Autumn Mar 2023 #92