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48. Trusty and Rowley quitting is irrelevant.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #44)

Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:11 PM

Jun 2023

They are DC-based lawyers, not admitted to practice before the Southern District of Florida.

The rules of the Southern District expressly state that "only" attorneys admitted to practice before the district court of the Southern District of Florida may appear before the court as attorneys. There is an exception for attorneys who are not admitted to practice before the court but obtain special admission on a "pro hac vice" basis. However, for an out-of-district attorney to be admitted on a pro hac vice basis, a motion must be filed on behalf of that attorney by a "co-counsel" who himself or herself is a member in good standing of the bar of the SD Florida.

In the special master case, Trusty and Rowley appeared on a pro hac vice basis on the motion of their co-counsel, a Florida lawyer, Lindsey Hannigan. Not sure why she isn't able to represent him at the arraignment, but (speculating) it might have something to do with the fact that she conceivably could be a witness.

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BREAKING: Trump can't find a lawyer to handle the arraignment. (NBC) [View all] brooklynite Jun 2023 OP

This is just the first step in the delay strategy. honest.abe Jun 2023 #1

The cynic in me thinks the two lawyers who quit last week... WestMichRad Jun 2023 #19

I was thinking that too. honest.abe Jun 2023 #22

Not eligible for for a PD. brooklynite Jun 2023 #28

And maybe nobody wants to work for him. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #39

There aren't that many Sgent Jun 2023 #75

You do realize this isn't the trial...right? ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #97

The two lawyers that quit were DC based and wouldn't have handled the arraignment anyway onenote Jun 2023 #40

Thanks for the clarification! WestMichRad Jun 2023 #43

It's federal court, why does he need local representation? Buckeyeblue Jun 2023 #71

Because each federal district court sets its own rules. onenote Jun 2023 #78

You can bet DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #59

Good luck trying that with whoever stands in for him ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #98

" the surrender and first appearance will still happen" per the story. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #20

Yes, but if the arraignment is delayed that will delay everything else including the trial. honest.abe Jun 2023 #21

Not for long ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #99

+1,000,000 wnylib Jun 2023 #66

How long before he pulls out a doctor's letter about his bone spurs? Midnight Writer Jun 2023 #73

No arraignment judge will give a crap about that ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #100

Keep him in custody until he has representation to bail him out C_U_L8R Jun 2023 #2

Exactly. He says in jail until he gets a lawyer or public defender. You just need to do that once. TheBlackAdder Jun 2023 #12

I like how you think. wnylib Jun 2023 #68

Like "the little people". nt GoodRaisin Jun 2023 #77

This!!! Peacetrain Jun 2023 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Beachnutt Jun 2023 #3

The Supreme Court ruled you have no legal redress if your Miranda rights are violated Marius25 Jun 2023 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Beachnutt Jun 2023 #11

Miranda Rights were not overturned. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2023 #23

I don't consider it a big difference. Even the ACLU says it strips people's civil rights Marius25 Jun 2023 #31

That's not entirely true. WestMichRad Jun 2023 #25

And this has nothing to do with the right to an attorney. brooklynite Jun 2023 #30

I clarified my post. Marius25 Jun 2023 #35

Agreed WestMichRad Jun 2023 #36

What? No, they did not obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #27

Wrong brooklynite Jun 2023 #29

Force him to use a public defender Marius25 Jun 2023 #4

Why can't he represent himself? I'd sell tickets to that! Raven Jun 2023 #5

I'm sure the former guy thinks he knows more about the law than any 10 lawyers gratuitous Jun 2023 #17

One of his ex-clients came up to him with tears in his eyes... llmart Jun 2023 #26

The tears were from the smell of ammonia tavernier Jun 2023 #57

LOL llmart Jun 2023 #82

Then let him use a public defender Wild blueberry Jun 2023 #7

Really! He should experience what millions of other Americans had to rely on. TheBlackAdder Jun 2023 #10

Only for those who cannot afford a lawyer treestar Jun 2023 #107

My guess...DELAY indefinitely on the Documents case... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2023 #8

Trump obviously did find an attorney telling him how to delay the arraignment. Freethinker65 Jun 2023 #9

Let's take up a collection and Beachnutt Jun 2023 #13

Well then, he'd 'Better Call Saul' Siwsan Jun 2023 #14

Maybe Tiffany could take her bar exam. kskiska Jun 2023 #15

One of the lawyers he spoke with with has already been indicted 😂😂😂 FelineOverlord Jun 2023 #16

"I would love to do it" ewww who in their right mind says or thinks this? nt intrepidity Jun 2023 #32

That particular lawyer though the case against Trump was "weak" FelineOverlord Jun 2023 #41

Dead On ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #83

Better call Saul. Vinca Jun 2023 #18

Maybe he should pay his attorneys. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2023 #24

That would be a fine first step in this show..."Stay tune for more delays" ...Yes more are coming. Stuart G Jun 2023 #34

It appears he can delay the proceedings legally. honest.abe Jun 2023 #33

Once he's entered his plea ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #101

I think Rudy can handle this. Jirel Jun 2023 #37

Good grief. You know a client is pretty bad when no one, I repeat, no one wants him as a client, SWBTATTReg Jun 2023 #38

Isn't Jonathan Turley available? LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #42

So on Friday, after the indictment is announced, Trusty and Rowley resign at "a logical moment" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2023 #44

Trusty and Rowley quitting is irrelevant. onenote Jun 2023 #48

Thanks - seems like MSNBC should be explaining that muriel_volestrangler Jun 2023 #64

And again claudette Jun 2023 #45

How did he win anything? According to FL law, ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #102

And that's claudette Jun 2023 #106

Trump will be meeting with lawyer Ben Kuehne today? Perfect match! LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #46

So from what I have been reading, typically a defendant would be incarcerated... honest.abe Jun 2023 #47

If you're a shitty client, no lawyer will want you sakabatou Jun 2023 #49

So how long is a reasonable time for him to secure acceptable counsel? Mr. Ected Jun 2023 #50

Sigh ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #104

I'm glad to hear he still has to appear. BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #51

Ostensibly he can afford one nt AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #55

Trump knows how to play the court system like a fiddle dalton99a Jun 2023 #52

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Interesting: Why isn't Lindsey Halligan representing him at the arriagnment onenote Jun 2023 #54

So he scores another first jmowreader Jun 2023 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #58

Public Defender, like everyone else who can't find a lawyer. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #60

Where are all the lawyers? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #61

Love It.. TY!! Cha Jun 2023 #80

Assign him a public defender. Problem solved. Orrex Jun 2023 #62

Rudy is available. Only $20k per day. keithbvadu2 Jun 2023 #63

Why wouldn't he get a court appointed attorney? Fla Dem Jun 2023 #65

Okay, first delay noted. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #67

So Blanche doesn't have a license to practice in Florida? Huh. I'll be damned. ancianita Jun 2023 #69

Probably not. And he would have to be admitted to practice before the Southern District of Florida onenote Jun 2023 #79

appoint a public defender. republianmushroom Jun 2023 #70

"Where is my Roy Cohn?" Maybe he can get Michael Cohen. Midnight Writer Jun 2023 #72

So you're telling us.... calguy Jun 2023 #74

I can easily believe there aren't many criminal attorneys who want to deal with Trump. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #76

Also maybe the lawyers who Cha Jun 2023 #81

Exactly. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #91

isnt' Jared an attorney? BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #84

Appoint a public defender Hekate Jun 2023 #85

How many people posted "give him a public defender" without reading the thread? brooklynite Jun 2023 #86

So is this some massive loophole in our justice system?? honest.abe Jun 2023 #87

Not aware that anyone is using this argument. brooklynite Jun 2023 #88

So what happens if It shows up tomorrow without an attorney?? honest.abe Jun 2023 #90

Stall tactic, lock him up until the arraignment! Emile Jun 2023 #89

Any updates? ecstatic Jun 2023 #92

Thought I read a magistrate would stand in ? What Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #103

Santo Domingo Dominican Republic. Zero interest so far. ecstatic Jun 2023 #109

I just gotta ask here. bluestarone Jun 2023 #93

"Are you licensed to practice in the Southern District of Florida?" LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #95

LOL W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #108

What Lawyer NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #96

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