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William Seger

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30. Using the term loosely hides the distinction

Thu Jun 15, 2023, 02:20 PM

Jun 2023

... that you're only "entitled" to it because you or your spouse or supporting parent paid for it. Calling it an entitlement makes it sound like a grant, like food stamps, which is why some Rs think it's just a policy decision to cut benefits. Cutting SS would be renigging on a contract.

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Because apparently it needs to be said. [View all] onecaliberal Jun 2023 OP

It very well IS AND ENTITLEMENT,, because we did work for it, we are entitled to it. HUAJIAO Jun 2023 #1

Exactly. I've never understood the opposition to the term "Entitlement." But Silent Type Jun 2023 #2

We need to stop voting for people who refuse to end the cap. Why are these fucking people held up onecaliberal Jun 2023 #4

We are the job creators Bettie Jun 2023 #6

Yep! People create jobs hoping to make a profit selling stuff William Seger Jun 2023 #14

The demand creates jobs, not the biz owners orthoclad Jun 2023 #77

And there you go, as R. Reagan would say, defining the essential mission of the GOP. jaxexpat Jun 2023 #74

We need to, but I don't see it happening. That's the reality. Silent Type Jun 2023 #9

"We" don't vote for these people. But the magats in a separate reality only hear each other and vote housecat Jun 2023 #58

The cap has been protected by all parties up to now. onecaliberal Jun 2023 #63

Because the racists have used it with derogatory connotations. (sp) we can do it Jun 2023 #5

That is true, it has become a derogatory term. But, it is an Entitlement. Silent Type Jun 2023 #10

No not an entitlement William Seger Jun 2023 #16

Which is exactly why it is an entitlement. Entitled means it is owned to you. we can do it Jun 2023 #18

(Misplaced reply below) William Seger Jun 2023 #33

Using the term loosely hides the distinction William Seger Jun 2023 #30

Not true. A grant is not an entitlement. we can do it Jun 2023 #36

The wage cap can be removed if we get enough people in office. we can do it Jun 2023 #34

It's only fair to raise the wage cap. There are more millionaires/billionaires than ever. Plus, most allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #40

It might be fair, but it won't happen unless a lot more Democrats are elected. Silent Type Jun 2023 #44

It will never be fair, Because DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #67

Agree, but that will take electing even more Democrats. Silent Type Jun 2023 #68

Regretfully DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #71

I agree! Rebl2 Jun 2023 #45

It's because the right has demonized the word "entitlement," just as it did the word "liberal" wackadoo wabbit Jun 2023 #57

I think some Rebl2 Jun 2023 #20

right,, repubs have twisted the meaning of the word, the media runs with that meaning HUAJIAO Jun 2023 #22

You are absolutely correct johnnyfins Jun 2023 #47

Big thumbs up! dchill Jun 2023 #52

This. When I do a job for someone, I am entitled to payment. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2023 #78

Frankly, the only real entitlements are the ones the Repugs like to grant themselves -- KPN Jun 2023 #3

SS is running a 77B surplus this year. bullimiami Jun 2023 #7

Cash flow possibly but not an actuarial surplus grantcart Jun 2023 #27

And THEIR retirement Traildogbob Jun 2023 #8

Republicans have always been against Social Security because it is for workers and not Lonestarblue Jun 2023 #11

And it's insurance, not a retirement account William Seger Jun 2023 #12

Remember Al Gore's "lockbox"? WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2023 #13

R's want to finance tax cuts for thr rich by stealing our retirement funds Martin Eden Jun 2023 #15

They've been doing it for a very long time. They've succeeded in a very big way. onecaliberal Jun 2023 #48

Why can't Dems effectively nail the Rethugs on this? Martin Eden Jun 2023 #51

Earned Benefit Wild blueberry Jun 2023 #17

And it kicks ass on your stocks, etc. GreenWave Jun 2023 #19

Nobody stole money from Social Security ... aggiesal Jun 2023 #21

Didn't Reagan rob it too? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #23

Sort of Bucky Jun 2023 #37

Believe that was the fantasy of the Laffer Curve and supply side economics, that if the rich aren't allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #42

No one gets a job from a poor person... unless they work retail. Bucky Jun 2023 #43

Interesting -- thanks for that info. It's such a complex balancing act and that's before three years allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #56

The Gap NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #79

REPUBLICANS think they're entitled to our money. live love laugh Jun 2023 #24

"Entitlement" is another word for racism. usonian Jun 2023 #25

"Entitlement" is pure Newspeak that RWNJs started to use and Democrats who Warpy Jun 2023 #26

You're right onecaliberal -- we worked for it - us and our employers paid for it. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2023 #28

There's another factor: Prospero1 Jun 2023 #29

It is an entitlement but half of the revenue is from employer contributions grantcart Jun 2023 #31

Which is fine. Bucky Jun 2023 #35

The OP stated "Social Security is OUR money. It exists because WORKERS PAY INTO IT." grantcart Jun 2023 #38

Not disagreeing Bucky Jun 2023 #39

Right, I appreciate it grantcart Jun 2023 #41

"Contributions" that come from compensation packages to employees. pnwmom Jun 2023 #62

No it is a federal mandated tax grantcart Jun 2023 #64

So? It is still counted in the amount that employers consider their total payment to an employee, pnwmom Jun 2023 #65

No its not. Its counted as an employer expense just like an electric bill or other business expense grantcart Jun 2023 #66

The weird thing is 'entitlement' means you deserve it ... Bucky Jun 2023 #32

The Repukes have turned the word "entitlement" into something dirty & nasty FakeNoose Jun 2023 #46

Yes, their spin is we are illegitimately "entitled" whathehell Jun 2023 #49

Fact Sheet: SOCIAL SECURITY Celerity Jun 2023 #50

K and fucking R Blue Owl Jun 2023 #53

I plan to sue the govt if my ss benefits are taken away onetexan Jun 2023 #54

Say it again and again and again. colorado_ufo Jun 2023 #55

"Entitlement" became a pejorative term ThoughtCriminal Jun 2023 #59

It IS an entitlement. Recipients are ENTITLED to it. pnwmom Jun 2023 #60

I enjoy Saturday Night Live. I still watch it from time to time. markodochartaigh Jun 2023 #61

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2023 #69

Thank you wendyb-NC Jun 2023 #70

House GOP releases budget that would 'destroy Social Security as we know it' LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #72

So we are entitled to it? Xoan Jun 2023 #73

Republicans twisting words like entitlement and woke blows me away that people Emile Jun 2023 #75

It is an entitlement because we are entitled to it. Progressive dog Jun 2023 #76

It is in the old Republican DNA and now the MAGA Republican DNA - they want to take our Social Secur LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #80

For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #81