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NowISeetheLight

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Wed Jun 21, 2023, 12:16 PM Jun 2023

Our Education System Sucks [View all]

Student test scores plummeted after Covid. It's like Japan's "lost generation".

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/21/schools-students-reading-math-test-scores-decline

https://www.the74million.org/article/naep-scores-flashing-red-after-a-lost-generation-of-learning-for-13-year-olds/

But they were lousy before Covid too.

America needs to start investing in Pre-K and education. Other countries are way ahead of us in educational attainment.

Per a US News study in 2020 these are the best countries with the Best Educational Systems

Denmark
Finland
Japan
Canada
Sweden
Germany
Israel
Netherlands
Singapore
South Korea

I don't see America anywhere on this list. One article I read said this.

According to a Business Insider report in 2018, the U.S. ranked 38th in math scores and 24th in science. Discussions about why the United States' education rankings have fallen by international standards over the past three decades frequently point out that government spending on education has failed to keep up with inflation.

Pathetic. We are the richest nation on earth. But we are so focused on greed and capitalism we are sacrificing our future. Education is our future. For profit colleges, for profit charter schools, homeschooling with Nazi curriculum, WTF???

I see Finland #2 on the list. Finland has been ranked the "Happiest country on earth" the last six years. It's where my grandparents emigrated from in the late 1890s as children. They actually fund social programs and education and aren't obsessed with "stuff". What a concept. I've been reading about moving there as a backup if America goes completely MAGA off the rails.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/27/1166180048/finland-is-the-worlds-happiest-country-for-the-6th-straight-year#:~:text=Finland%20is%20the%20world's%20happiest%20country%20again.,expenses%2Dpaid%20trip%20for%2010.



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Our Education System Sucks [View all] NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 OP
Home schooling and Bible schools don't help vlyons Jun 2023 #1
I don't know what good being able to solve calculus problems.... Kaleva Jun 2023 #6
Math is a form Casady1 Jun 2023 #9
But could one could achieve that with basic math? Kaleva Jun 2023 #12
Didn't you just say Casady1 Jun 2023 #15
Yes. Basic math classes ended up on completion of the 8th grade Kaleva Jun 2023 #20
Algebra NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #33
You use algebra all the time ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #46
How I Do It NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #47
That's Still Algebra ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #55
Junior High NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #60
Since I Retired... ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #67
I Wish NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #70
STEM is incredinly lacking right now Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #18
Then it shouldn't help anybody right? Ever the contrarian. JanMichael Jun 2023 #52
Where did I say it won't help everybody. Kaleva Jun 2023 #65
I was homeschooled vercetti2021 Jun 2023 #63
We need to invest in schools and materials, but mostly we need to invest in teachers. Biophilic Jun 2023 #2
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #45
yes Debunk.Bunk Jun 2023 #3
Locally funded education. How incredibly stupid unblock Jun 2023 #4
We are 6th in the world on education spending federally jimfields33 Jun 2023 #21
This Site Shows It Even Higher ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #56
Kind of Like Healthcare NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #64
It Says In The Body Of The Text... ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #66
Missed That - Thanks NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #69
One thing those countries have in common is that they Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #5
All the education I ever needed I had gotten by the end of the 8th grade. Kaleva Jun 2023 #7
College level Casady1 Jun 2023 #11
What would I do with political science? Kaleva Jun 2023 #17
basic math does not cover Casady1 Jun 2023 #22
And yet I was able to repair complex weapons systems, heating systems, Kaleva Jun 2023 #24
okay Casady1 Jun 2023 #27
We had a president who was educated to around an 8th grade level IbogaProject Jun 2023 #44
DeSantis graduated from Yale and Harvard Kaleva Jun 2023 #48
Your logical fallacy is equivocation. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #53
Political science Casady1 Jun 2023 #26
Political science is a modern term for civics ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #49
It shouldn't be taught at those grades. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #23
I'm not sure of the purpose behind this post stopdiggin Jun 2023 #25
My argument is that not everyone needs higher education Kaleva Jun 2023 #28
Education is needed Casady1 Jun 2023 #29
Didn't DeSantis graduate from Yale and Harvard? Kaleva Jun 2023 #36
rubbish. Anybody that has the capability stopdiggin Jun 2023 #34
Where did I say people shouldn't take full advantage of what's offered? Kaleva Jun 2023 #38
glad it's worked out for you stopdiggin Jun 2023 #59
You may have heard of people saddled with massive amounts of college debt Kaleva Jun 2023 #68
college debt is a serious concern stopdiggin Jun 2023 #71
It is a fact that are shortages of people in the trades where pay is good. Kaleva Jun 2023 #72
Just Pissed NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #35
Typing NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #30
I recall when we switched from manual to electric and back again Kaleva Jun 2023 #39
Manual NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #41
Teachers and Librarians have been leaving in droves since just before the pandemic haele Jun 2023 #8
the countries listed stopdiggin Jun 2023 #10
I used to think the HS I attended was horrible. Torchlight Jun 2023 #13
Our population is huge compared to all of those countries. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #14
Not unique to US (public) education institutions brooklynite Jun 2023 #16
Pre-Covid NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #37
Some of the highest IB scores in Europe...and higher than the US average. brooklynite Jun 2023 #40
The article I read states that there was a noticeable drop in scores in 2012. Lonestarblue Jun 2023 #19
We should want to change this ASAP. pandr32 Jun 2023 #31
So true. The Repugs have been successful Quakerfriend Jun 2023 #32
Homeschooling more than anything relies on the abilities - and patience - of the parents FakeNoose Jun 2023 #42
Homeschool NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #43
Smart kids are bullied in America pfitz59 Jun 2023 #50
+1 betsuni Jun 2023 #61
Just made a quick list Wolves ov Siberia Jun 2023 #51
My girls went through the German educational system until college DFW Jun 2023 #54
+1 betsuni Jun 2023 #62
That's because the GOP has been working diligently to dismantle it since the 1960s. n/t TygrBright Jun 2023 #57
My kid just finished kindergarten and I feel it was incredible. honest.abe Jun 2023 #58
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