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ExWhoDoesntCare

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53. Your logical fallacy is equivocation.
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jun 2023

It's the manipulation of a word that has multiple meanings to put words into the mouths of people who aren't saying what you are, and that word in this case is "educated."

Educated can mean either being knowledgeable after careful study, or it can mean having certification from an institute of learning. Those two things are not always the same thing.

Just because someone has a degree does not mean they are educated. It is entirely possible to squeak through a uni, even a prestigious one, and either learn nothing, or only retain it long enough to get through a class (or series of classes) and then dump it all once they have the degree in hand. That happens all the time, else we wouldn't have a plethora of idiots with Harvard degrees in the world.

Yes, it is possible for someone with no college degree to be "educated" in the sense of "knowledgeable" or "learned;" however, that person will rarely equal the extent of knowledge held by someone who did go to college and bothered to take advantage of the opportunity to learn whatever they could there. I can always tell the people who made good use of their college English or history classes by what they see in books, movies, and current events compared to people who did not attend college.

Anyway, DuhSatan is educated in the sense of having a degree, but he's uneducated in the sense of knowing anything worthwhile. Adam Schiff is educated in having a degree, and also in the sense of knowing worthwhile things. Unlike DuhSatan, Schiff has retained what he learned at uni, and then expanded beyond that, even, because he's the kind who cares about knowing reality.

Oh--and logical fallacies? It's uncommon for people to learn about them outside of the few brave souls who take logic or critical thinking in uni. Of course, some people do learn about them outside of formal education, but that doesn't happen very often. Certainly not often enough.

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Math is a form Casady1 Jun 2023 #9
But could one could achieve that with basic math? Kaleva Jun 2023 #12
Didn't you just say Casady1 Jun 2023 #15
Yes. Basic math classes ended up on completion of the 8th grade Kaleva Jun 2023 #20
Algebra NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #33
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How I Do It NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #47
That's Still Algebra ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #55
Junior High NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #60
Since I Retired... ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #67
I Wish NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #70
STEM is incredinly lacking right now Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #18
Then it shouldn't help anybody right? Ever the contrarian. JanMichael Jun 2023 #52
Where did I say it won't help everybody. Kaleva Jun 2023 #65
I was homeschooled vercetti2021 Jun 2023 #63
We need to invest in schools and materials, but mostly we need to invest in teachers. Biophilic Jun 2023 #2
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #45
yes Debunk.Bunk Jun 2023 #3
Locally funded education. How incredibly stupid unblock Jun 2023 #4
We are 6th in the world on education spending federally jimfields33 Jun 2023 #21
This Site Shows It Even Higher ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #56
Kind of Like Healthcare NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #64
It Says In The Body Of The Text... ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #66
Missed That - Thanks NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #69
One thing those countries have in common is that they Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #5
All the education I ever needed I had gotten by the end of the 8th grade. Kaleva Jun 2023 #7
College level Casady1 Jun 2023 #11
What would I do with political science? Kaleva Jun 2023 #17
basic math does not cover Casady1 Jun 2023 #22
And yet I was able to repair complex weapons systems, heating systems, Kaleva Jun 2023 #24
okay Casady1 Jun 2023 #27
We had a president who was educated to around an 8th grade level IbogaProject Jun 2023 #44
DeSantis graduated from Yale and Harvard Kaleva Jun 2023 #48
Your logical fallacy is equivocation. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #53
Political science Casady1 Jun 2023 #26
Political science is a modern term for civics ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #49
It shouldn't be taught at those grades. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #23
I'm not sure of the purpose behind this post stopdiggin Jun 2023 #25
My argument is that not everyone needs higher education Kaleva Jun 2023 #28
Education is needed Casady1 Jun 2023 #29
Didn't DeSantis graduate from Yale and Harvard? Kaleva Jun 2023 #36
rubbish. Anybody that has the capability stopdiggin Jun 2023 #34
Where did I say people shouldn't take full advantage of what's offered? Kaleva Jun 2023 #38
glad it's worked out for you stopdiggin Jun 2023 #59
You may have heard of people saddled with massive amounts of college debt Kaleva Jun 2023 #68
college debt is a serious concern stopdiggin Jun 2023 #71
It is a fact that are shortages of people in the trades where pay is good. Kaleva Jun 2023 #72
Just Pissed NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #35
Typing NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #30
I recall when we switched from manual to electric and back again Kaleva Jun 2023 #39
Manual NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #41
Teachers and Librarians have been leaving in droves since just before the pandemic haele Jun 2023 #8
the countries listed stopdiggin Jun 2023 #10
I used to think the HS I attended was horrible. Torchlight Jun 2023 #13
Our population is huge compared to all of those countries. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #14
Not unique to US (public) education institutions brooklynite Jun 2023 #16
Pre-Covid NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #37
Some of the highest IB scores in Europe...and higher than the US average. brooklynite Jun 2023 #40
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Homeschool NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #43
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My kid just finished kindergarten and I feel it was incredible. honest.abe Jun 2023 #58
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