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BeyondGeography

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18. This isn't a unilateral war of choice by a foreign power

Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:38 PM

Jul 2023

Well actually it is if you’re talking about Russia.

For Ukraine, this is a clear case of self-defense and they have every incentive to protect civilians which they have done for 500 days now. Your thinking is plainly muddled here.

“The quickest way to end a war is to lose it.” -George Orwell

Russia must lose in Ukraine.

Biden made the right call.

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'Terrible mistake': human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 OP

So the Russians have already dumped thousands of duds everywhere in Ukraine but DURHAM D Jul 2023 #1

Russia used chemical weapons, lets give them that too! And all the napalm bombs too! Hua! Shanti Shanti Shanti Jul 2023 #5

Nukes! I vote nukes. You get a nuke! You get a nuke! AkFemDem Jul 2023 #6

Cleaning out the dusty, rusty old bombs, for your shiny new bombs! Buy Textron stock, today! Shanti Shanti Shanti Jul 2023 #10

+1 flying rabbit Jul 2023 #14

I agree - it is madness malaise Jul 2023 #2

Apparently abandoning the moral high ground on banned weapons isn't a problem anymore! Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #24

Our friends and allies AkFemDem Jul 2023 #3

Also- Ukraine has been using cluster bombs throughout this war AkFemDem Jul 2023 #4

I would prefer we not send them but it's not a hill I'm willing to die on. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #7

Yeah no need, some other civilian will. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2023 #15

+1 Celerity Jul 2023 #22

Yes, much better for the Russians to kill civilians with indescriminate attacks. Happy Hoosier Jul 2023 #28

However, you can open the shells of the ones we are sending and arm drones with individual bombs. haele Jul 2023 #21

Fit for tat makes all the civilians go dead...I am with UN and humanitarian agencies...who isn't?? Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #25

Understood. haele Jul 2023 #27

Cluster bombs are banned for a reason. Monstrous. Ofc the Pentagon will make a PowerPoint Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #31

"if a nation uses these weapons it's a war crime" Emrys Jul 2023 #32

And then there's this.... Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #33

What about it? Emrys Jul 2023 #34

Surely another military at war supplied with monster weapons will use them properly! Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #35

It sounds like you don't agree with supplying Ukraine with any weapons at all Emrys Jul 2023 #36

Strawman. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #37

Huh? Not at all. Make your mind up and stop shifting the goalposts from one post to the next. Emrys Jul 2023 #38

CMC report a year ago: Russia uses cluster bombs 'extensively' BeyondGeography Jul 2023 #8

Doesn't make it right. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #9

What you can't seem to accept over numerous threads Emrys Jul 2023 #11

Not at all sure what you mean by "what I can't accept". I do not accept the use of cluster bombs. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #16

I pay attention to Ukraine and threads about it. Emrys Jul 2023 #19

Disagree BeyondGeography Jul 2023 #12

Wow, you don't remember all the threads about the horror of cluster bombs that Saddam was using? BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #17

This isn't a unilateral war of choice by a foreign power BeyondGeography Jul 2023 #18

It's a moral decision. kentuck Jul 2023 #13

People with morals. TheProle Jul 2023 #23

Do you think Ukrainians want to bomb their own citizens? W_HAMILTON Jul 2023 #20

Cluster munitions are still manufactured -- and in many nations that have Hortensis Jul 2023 #26

Munitions wont win this war, air superiority could but Ukraine will never have that, ever Shanti Shanti Shanti Jul 2023 #29

+1000 nt WarGamer Jul 2023 #30

I'm really against us doing this AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 #39