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mopinko

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19. i saw this on fb the other day. it's about grief, but the same cld b said for mi-
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 09:39 AM
Aug 2023

it’s about y most offers of help dont get accepted, and how to get around that.

Hi Hugh,
A friend died, and I want to be helpful to his wife, but I’m not sure what to do. I told her that if she needed anything to let me know. Of course, she thanked me, but it’s been a few days now and she hasn’t asked for anything. I don’t think she will. I feel so helpless. What should I do?
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Hey there, [Redacted]. Thanks for writing. I’m really glad your friend has you in her life.
I get it. Grief is a funny thing. It’s the time in our life when we most need help, and also the time when asking for help is so hard. Not because we are ashamed to ask for help, although that happens sometimes too. But mostly because our brain just sort of shuts down.
When my Dad died, I looked functional. But I wasn’t OK. Not at all. And when the news got out, the ton of people flooding me with calls, texts, and DM’s was overwhelming. I really couldn’t function. I sat on the swing in our yard and just stared into space. People called and asked what they could do to help. I had no idea.
“Well, anything you need at all, let me know, OK?”
“OK”.
They hung up. I stared into space some more.
I had no idea what to do. What I needed. I didn’t even know what to ask for.
Then a friend sent a text. This friend had met Dad once but didn’t really know him. But still, she knew I was hurting. I saw who it was and almost put the phone down without reading the text, but I saw the message and it stopped me:
Will you be home at 8:30 tonight?
What’s weird is this friend lives 12 hours away from me.
Yes, I replied.
“K.”
10 minutes later, she said, “Instacart will be there at 8:30. Open the door for them.”
“What?”
“Grief Groceries.”
When Instacart showed up, they put two large bags of groceries on my porch. Frozen pizzas. Ice cream. Oreo cookies. Tinned soup. Stouffer’s lasagna. A gallon of milk. Like that. Things I could heat up if I needed a meal, or pig out on if I needed fat and sugar. Sometimes, you just need to eat half a box of Oreos.
Notice she didn’t ask if I needed any food. I would have said no. She just asked if I would be home.
Grief groceries.
Another friend, who lives out of town, asked Renee to name a restaurant near our house where we like to eat. There is a local chain near our house that is sort of a deli. When we eat supper there, we spend about $25. Renee told her the name of the place.
An hour later, there was a gift card in my inbox for $250. Yes, that is a lot of money, and I understand not everyone can do that. But the wonderful thing was that because it was enough for multiple meals, we didn’t try to save it for “the right time”. We ate there that night, and take out from there several times a week for the next month on nights when I just didn’t have the spoons to cook.
Both of those gift-givers knew something I didn’t know – that when you are grieving, you don’t want to make decisions. No, that’s not quite it: You can’t make decisions. You hit decision fatigue really fast.
So, I guess what I’m saying is, don’t ask grieving people to make big choices or decisions. “How can I help” is a big choice. But “Can I take the kids this afternoon so you can have some time to yourself” is a much smaller one. “Will you be home tonight?” is a small choice. “What restaurant do you like” is a small decision. Just showing up to cut their grass because you noticed it needed cutting is loads better than asking, “Do you want me to cut the grass?” Or, “I’m going to Target. What can I get you while I’m there?” is better than “Can I run any errands for you?”
It won’t always be like this. If you stick around, eventually they will surface and ways to be helpful will make themselves known. But in the first few days, especially, it helps to remove as many decisions from their plate as possible.
Take care,
HH

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You do not deserve pain and misery, I can tell by your writing that you are a thoughtful considerate Walleye Aug 2023 #1
Very well articulated. intrepidity Aug 2023 #2
I remember depression well... Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #3
Logged to to rec berniesandersmittens Aug 2023 #4
A big problem with mental illness is that the mentally ill dictate the treatment Kaleva Aug 2023 #5
I can tell you I wish that had been the case with the many times I sought help. It wasn't. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2023 #9
I understand it's an illness Kaleva Aug 2023 #11
As someone who lived with a bi-polar for 20 years DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #6
Yet, I use the word "normally." Exceptions to the rule are NOT the rule. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #7
I don't believe what you describe is "normal" DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #15
Well, you have your opinion. I have medical science. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #16
I wish I'd had that book years ago. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #18
Thank you. The lies and manipulative behavior are difficult to tolerate. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #35
That book is about people with Borderline Personality Disorder. yardwork Aug 2023 #38
Bi-Polar almost always has a co-morbidity DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #48
Bi-Polar almost always has a co-morbidity DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #49
Do you mean Borderline Personality Disorder instead of Bi-Polar? yardwork Aug 2023 #39
She is bi-polar DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #45
I'm so sorry. yardwork Aug 2023 #46
Not an ex DenaliDemocrat Aug 2023 #47
HAH! OldBaldy1701E Aug 2023 #8
pro tip if you have a friend who suffers from mi- mopinko Aug 2023 #10
Unfortunately, they often reject the help offered Kaleva Aug 2023 #12
i saw this on fb the other day. it's about grief, but the same cld b said for mi- mopinko Aug 2023 #19
Grief and mental illness are not the same thing Kaleva Aug 2023 #26
of course not. but the problem of not knowing how to help, mopinko Aug 2023 #27
I think your post provided great insights on helping those in grief. Kaleva Aug 2023 #32
did u miss the part that i suffer from depression? mopinko Aug 2023 #33
Clinical depression cannot be helped by offers of help Kaleva Aug 2023 #43
Not at all the same thing. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #28
True. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #36
Jeez, I wish I were a healer..... Karadeniz Aug 2023 #13
Well said wendyb-NC Aug 2023 #14
Thank you MAJones Aug 2023 #17
Not unlike an LSD trip unless you have been there you cannot understand. twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #20
One hell of a good post. n/t LuckyCharms Aug 2023 #21
"cymbalta, paxil, trazodone, and ativain" Sympthsical Aug 2023 #22
Yes, I'm no doctor, but that looks to be a troublesome cocktail. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #23
I just finished an extensive pharmacology program Sympthsical Aug 2023 #24
I've got no background in pharmacology or medicine, but even I was familiar with those drug names. BlackSkimmer Aug 2023 #25
I think that too. unforunately, that's how mental health works AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #30
Sound advice. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #37
Books help me. nt BWdem4life Aug 2023 #29
Since she was 17, my daughter has been diagnosed as schizoaffective: schizophrenia & bipolar. elocs Aug 2023 #31
omg. that's hideous. mopinko Aug 2023 #34
I have a broken relationship with my father, but he was abusive even into adulthood AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #41
i absolutely understand that. mopinko Aug 2023 #42
I'm sorry that you're in so much pain. yardwork Aug 2023 #40
I'm bipolar too, and recently went through a depression. crosinski Aug 2023 #44
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