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55. Why do they support Hamas?

Mon Oct 9, 2023, 04:35 PM

Oct 2023

Because they have lost hope for fairness and equality.

You would get the same answer from President Carter.

Apartheid is apartheid.

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What is going to happen to the 2 million people who cannot escape Gaza in 5 days? [View all] onecaliberal Oct 2023 OP

I want to believe the vast majority here do not want to see that unfold Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #1

I hear zero concern for Palestinian children. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #2

There seems to be way more bloodlust here now redqueen Oct 2023 #3

I agree obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #32

It's depressing redqueen Oct 2023 #42

Palestinians are semitic. Bear Creek Oct 2023 #56

"Both sides are at fault" Zeitghost Oct 2023 #65

Only one side has this as a STATED goal Bettie Oct 2023 #70

Where else do you keep those Zeitghost Oct 2023 #73

Ethnic Cleansing Bear Creek Oct 2023 #179

Ah, the old zionist line Zeitghost Oct 2023 #189

Wrong from the get go Bear Creek Oct 2023 #192

Zionism isn't colonialism Mosby Oct 2023 #200

meh, it was created not even totally natural treestar Oct 2023 #244

The US is stolen land, so yeah. Mosby Oct 2023 #247

You are correct. This is the result of hard right policies and a breakdown in security. Hamas is Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #161

NO MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #91

It's not Zeitghost Oct 2023 #115

How do you know? scipan Oct 2023 #135

Because they tell us with their words and actions Zeitghost Oct 2023 #159

Almost half the country are children. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #183

Yes, how do you know? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #150

+1 scipan Oct 2023 #164

There has not been a vote Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #235

You do understand Zeitghost Oct 2023 #242

Not Hamas Bear Creek Oct 2023 #180

Not stated does not mean it is not a goal treestar Oct 2023 #243

so being smart enough to not state it treestar Oct 2023 #257

Israelis are not Nazis. carpetbagger Oct 2023 #72

Nazis? TiberiusB Oct 2023 #98

"Zionism sounds very close to national socialist?" carpetbagger Oct 2023 #107

I am just concerned with labels in general TiberiusB Oct 2023 #154

The murderers are the bad guys. PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #170

They did go in Bear Creek Oct 2023 #181

It doesn't make them Nazis. carpetbagger Oct 2023 #206

Jews were living in Israel thousands of years ago Mosby Oct 2023 #208

So China has a valid argument about land they're claiming from other countries?!?!? uponit7771 Oct 2023 #225

Chinese aren't an ethnoreligious group Mosby Oct 2023 #236

What difference does it make if they're religious or not? They're using the same dumbass argument uponit7771 Oct 2023 #253

how long ago do we have to repair these things for? treestar Oct 2023 #249

The Jews never left. Mosby Oct 2023 #250

why not just migrate naturally? treestar Oct 2023 #255

I learned something today... radicalleft Oct 2023 #270

Agreed, there was a time when liberals stood for peace and abhorred slaughter and cruelty Magoo48 Oct 2023 #129

The bravery of being out of range nt redqueen Oct 2023 #156

Just as the mass media wants the level of concern for THOSE children to be...and apparently Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #9

I haven't read every thread and every post here on this subject Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #10

To be fair, sarisataka Oct 2023 #18

Any Concern from you for Cha Oct 2023 #28

About the same Bear Creek Oct 2023 #37

I am concerned for all of the innocent. I am making an observation. /END onecaliberal Oct 2023 #39

Concern for people on both sides womanofthehills Oct 2023 #66

THIS onecaliberal Oct 2023 #88

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #93

This is on Hamas. International law is clear on that. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #95

Yes! nt Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #125

I have massive concerns for them. One of the radical RW Likudnik types told a Swedish reporter Celerity Oct 2023 #57

On both sides, right? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #86

I'm disgusted with both sides Skittles Oct 2023 #90

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Oct 2023 #96

I agree Skittles. debm55 Oct 2023 #100

Exactly obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #102

+1 treestar Oct 2023 #246

I don't feel that way...the conditions on GAZA have been and are horrific Where will they go? Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #160

Agree - half of the 2.2 million people jammed like sardines in a tiny area are children womanofthehills Oct 2023 #169

Yes, we are going to stand by. The babies in the nicu are dead once the power was turned off. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #265

And in your OP you showed zero concern for murdered Jewish children. n/t totodeinhere Oct 2023 #212

No one showed O concern for murdered children womanofthehills Oct 2023 #259

Then what would you have Israel do? Do you really expect no response to the atrocities totodeinhere Oct 2023 #271

and an expectation that we cheer on killing them treestar Oct 2023 #256

I'm so disgusted. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #260

I'm horrified by the terrorism by Hamas, and equally by the threat to the people in Gaza jmbar2 Oct 2023 #4

Unfortunately Hamas umis the governent of Gaza ripcord Oct 2023 #5

What's a "umis"...? littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #6

It appears to be a typo of "is". n/t whopis01 Oct 2023 #71

Their government? redqueen Oct 2023 #8

The Japanese government bombed Pearl Harbor Marius25 Oct 2023 #36

No, it was German industrialists EX500rider Oct 2023 #116

Like it or not, the Nazi Party WAS the german govt EX500rider Oct 2023 #118

That was AFTER they almost went bankrupt. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #153

is it elected? treestar Oct 2023 #245

They will be used a human shields by Hamas BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #7

Without water, they'll be dead "human shields" Arazi Oct 2023 #16

That won't matter to either side, most likely. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #17

Egypt could open their border to let them through NickB79 Oct 2023 #11

That's why both countries have a blockade. Marius25 Oct 2023 #38

Arab nations turned their backs on Palestinians many years ago...oh sure they use them Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #162

Huh inthewind21 Oct 2023 #193

The Gaza/Eygpt border is only 7 miles long, Eygpt can certainly close that EX500rider Oct 2023 #219

Are you watching and listening? malaise Oct 2023 #12

Is that a reference to Jewish people being called the chosen people? BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Oct 2023 #41

Hopefully the Palestinian civilians will heed the warnings sarisataka Oct 2023 #14

Pretty clear that Egypt doesn't care about the children of Gaza. onenote Oct 2023 #21

If there is no water, they will die. Do you understand how important water is in the climate? Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #163

You shouldn't call out a person sarisataka Oct 2023 #168

" Into the countryside" ?? womanofthehills Oct 2023 #171

And yet it has countryside EX500rider Oct 2023 #220

Gaza is the 3rd most densely populated area on the planet. 2.2 million people stuffed into an Celerity Oct 2023 #191

Very few seem to care cally Oct 2023 #15

It seems few have learned much at all nt redqueen Oct 2023 #19

if i was in charge of israel here is what i would do first moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #25

"Yes, they do kill them." EX500rider Oct 2023 #122

Fee free to link to where the IDF routinely kills prisoners. EX500rider Oct 2023 #252

Answering atrocities sarisataka Oct 2023 #29

i'd go one step further too moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #31

That'll really fix the problem. HUAJIAO Oct 2023 #58

Probably not redqueen Oct 2023 #158

I can believe it. roamer65 Oct 2023 #26

I can inthewind21 Oct 2023 #54

I can't believe what I'm reading here either MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #99

The massacre of Palestinian civilians.... RussBLib Oct 2023 #22

Genocide. roamer65 Oct 2023 #23

And it's disgusting. Replace Gaza with the Warsaw ghetto and then how do people feel? ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #27

not nearly the same moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #34

Yeah, live with a boot on your neck for 50 years and you want to overthrow your occupiers ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #67

They could have chosen the way of Gandhi and MLK Dave says Oct 2023 #106

I'm afraid those tactics don't have resonance in the 21st Century. carpetbagger Oct 2023 #121

Almost half the citizens of Gaza are children. redqueen Oct 2023 #184

so whats your solution to eliminate hamas moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #187

I'll take comically false equivalencies for $500, Ken. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #45

+1000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #46

I will assume sarisataka Oct 2023 #53

What do you know about the Warsaw ghetto? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #104

Only one side in this conflict Zeitghost Oct 2023 #40

THIS onecaliberal Oct 2023 #44

What is the difference between genocide and ethnic cleansing? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #111

If you are a European American like I am, you are a beneficiary of both. roamer65 Oct 2023 #113

This neither describes nor defines genocide or ethnic cleansing. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #126

Looks like I touched a nerve. roamer65 Oct 2023 #133

I sincerely hope you did, but I feel nothing. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #138

It's obvious that you don't feel anything. roamer65 Oct 2023 #140

Ooh, now I feel something. it feels a little bit like... Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #142

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #151

Ethnic cleansing is pushing people out treestar Oct 2023 #261

Is Egypt not helping them? EllieBC Oct 2023 #24

We don't talk about that. nt sarisataka Oct 2023 #30

Oh I'm aware. EllieBC Oct 2023 #33

Because Zeitghost Oct 2023 #43

So you are labeling all Gazans terrorists? roamer65 Oct 2023 #47

So why isn't Egypt helping? EllieBC Oct 2023 #48

Because it is a very poor and radicalized population. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #166

They were never allowed in Arab countries...but were used for decades... Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #194

They were allowed in both Lebanon and Jordan. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #205

Gazans today presumed to do the same treestar Oct 2023 #263

However you want to label it. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #268

Seriously...ever here of a place called Syraia? Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #272

What's your method Zeitghost Oct 2023 #51

Why do they support Hamas? roamer65 Oct 2023 #55

And... Zeitghost Oct 2023 #59

Won't happen if we give the Palestinian people hope. roamer65 Oct 2023 #60

They have continiuosly Zeitghost Oct 2023 #62

"Those who live by the sword, shall indeed die by it." roamer65 Oct 2023 #63

Fitting words Zeitghost Oct 2023 #64

Nope. It's because not supporting Hamas is life-threaqtening. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #117

I read earlier (DU post) that they haven't had free, transparent, open elections in 15 years Dave says Oct 2023 #109

+1000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #120

Zionism is only a religious cult if you read Iranian propaganda. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #130

It's predominantly far right Judaism. roamer65 Oct 2023 #131

It is not. In fact it is not even related to Judaism Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #137

Most far right Jews Sgent Oct 2023 #172

But there they sit and inhabit illegal settlements. roamer65 Oct 2023 #174

You need to look on a mirror obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #134

'and put them in power. " the Palestinian people have NOT spoken recently on who is to lead them uponit7771 Oct 2023 #226

Egypt has found when the border is open Gaza DOES export terrorists, thats why it is closed EX500rider Oct 2023 #128

Who knew inthewind21 Oct 2023 #195

The Egypt Gaza border is much smaller than the Israel EX500rider Oct 2023 #196

The Egyptian/Gaza border is only 7 miles long. nt EX500rider Oct 2023 #216

since 1948 the demand that Arab countries treestar Oct 2023 #262

If it's not happening on their block, CCExile Oct 2023 #35

The right? inthewind21 Oct 2023 #197

Complex problems and frustration CCExile Oct 2023 #237

We are seeing the beginnings of WW3, onecaliberal. roamer65 Oct 2023 #49

??? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #103

Every time Hamas carries out an attack people get upset when they strike back ripcord Oct 2023 #50

How long is Israel supposed to endure terrorist attacks? Zeitghost Oct 2023 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author lostnfound Oct 2023 #61

Hamas executes Palestinians they see as not being anti Israel enough JI7 Oct 2023 #68

My concern is FOR the INNOCENT people. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #69

Those Palestinians they execute are innocent JI7 Oct 2023 #75

No Kidding. What is your point? I already reiterated that I am concerned for the innocent. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #76

So come up with a way to get rid of Hamas and present that plan to the world JI7 Oct 2023 #77

I'm done with this conversation. Your comment is not serious. I can be concerned for anyone I onecaliberal Oct 2023 #79

+1000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #80

Easy, occupy GAZA and separate all men and boys into sub ghetto for 2yrs ... uponit7771 Oct 2023 #227

apparently they mean that treestar Oct 2023 #264

Collective punishment by the unevolved. liberalmuse Oct 2023 #74

Exactly Dave says Oct 2023 #112

And when we got sick of war Sgent Oct 2023 #173

Like the honey badger, Bibi don't care peppertree Oct 2023 #78

+1000000000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #81

Thank you very much peppertree Oct 2023 #147

Or you could read the news and find out EX500rider Oct 2023 #222

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #108

Thank you kindly peppertree Oct 2023 #148

Hamas doesn't care Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #82

Of course they don't care. roamer65 Oct 2023 #127

Dor gawd's sake and your own, look up Zionism! Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #132

Maybe Egypt can open its border and let them cross? oldsoftie Oct 2023 #83

They've tried before and Hamas terrorists come through Arazi Oct 2023 #136

Thank you! oldsoftie Oct 2023 #143

I am talking about CHILDREN, NOT HAMAS. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #267

At annual summer camps, Hamas trains children... Arazi Oct 2023 #269

I suspect the refugees are going to be about as popular as nuclear waste. BrightKnight Oct 2023 #177

Oh my inthewind21 Oct 2023 #199

The current Palestinian population did **NOT** vote for Hamas uponit7771 Oct 2023 #229

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Oct 2023 #84

WOW! onecaliberal Oct 2023 #85

WHY Didn't HAMAS Give A Cha Oct 2023 #87

The same reason they don't care about Isreal. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #89

And that reason is? Dave says Oct 2023 #119

They want to rule and control. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #141

And like Netanyahu reps Israelis redqueen Oct 2023 #155

collective reprisals against civilians mike_c Oct 2023 #92

I'm going to get my butt kicked, but I don't care... slightlv Oct 2023 #97

.... scipan Oct 2023 #114

Thank you for the very thoughtful comment. So heartbreaking. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #144

No butt kicking from me Deuxcents Oct 2023 #146

Wow a thoughtful and nuanced response róisín_dubh Oct 2023 #188

There used to be more of those here redqueen Oct 2023 #190

Indeed inthewind21 Oct 2023 #201

Yeah no kidding róisín_dubh Oct 2023 #209

No, Palistinians are dancing in the streets celebrating the murder of innocent Jewish children. totodeinhere Oct 2023 #213

Kindness and empathy. PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #224

Many DUers do not care obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #101

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #105

Yup obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #123

Indeed, and some who I thought would be joining in have very pleasantly surprised me and are Celerity Oct 2023 #223

Don't think their Middle Eastern brothers will be there for them. ancianita Oct 2023 #110

K and R Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #124

While I ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #139

1000 israelis is like 30k americans moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #145

It's a ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Oct 2023 #202

Take out the terrorists inthewind21 Oct 2023 #203

They will be slaughtered by the hundreds and by the thousands and those doing the killing RockRaven Oct 2023 #152

I think most people know they are not allowed to leave womanofthehills Oct 2023 #175

+1, uponit7771 Oct 2023 #230

How many of those 2 million are sympathetic to Hamas? How big is Hamas? onenote Oct 2023 #157

More than half because They were elected. nt BrightKnight Oct 2023 #178

17 years ago. No elections since. onenote Oct 2023 #182

Why can't Eygpt send food & water across the border? EX500rider Oct 2023 #165

There is an outlet to Egypt pfitz59 Oct 2023 #167

Heart breaking but they did vote for the people launching the rockets. BrightKnight Oct 2023 #176

No elections in 17 years. Almost half the country are children. redqueen Oct 2023 #185

If the international community organized an election last month Hamas would have won in a landslide. BrightKnight Oct 2023 #218

Do you know when the last election was there? onecaliberal Oct 2023 #186

What inthewind21 Oct 2023 #204

wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #207

This is false uponit7771 Oct 2023 #231

I'll keep this post in mind the next time there's a thread about an 11 year old, Crunchy Frog Oct 2023 #238

War crimes, technically. Iggo Oct 2023 #198

Technically and legally róisín_dubh Oct 2023 #210

It's truly unfuckingbelievable. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #214

Ayup. Iggo Oct 2023 #215

Yep. It's seriously depressing nt redqueen Oct 2023 #240

What would you have Israel do in response to the murder of innocent Jewish children? totodeinhere Oct 2023 #211

I don't pay attention to ME till now, it seems like Palestians are acting normal towards the.. uponit7771 Oct 2023 #232

If they are trying to kill them off why does their population continue to increase ? JI7 Oct 2023 #233

Cause they're bad at it? (Link) uponit7771 Oct 2023 #234

an eye for an eye is what that is treestar Oct 2023 #248

I wish there were another solution, but how can there be when Hamas has in its totodeinhere Oct 2023 #251

Does Hamas have that ability? treestar Oct 2023 #254

I don't know if Hamas actually has that ability but I am afraid that Hamas totodeinhere Oct 2023 #258

Collateral damage pfitz59 Oct 2023 #217

"I doubt 'the people' of Gaza will just hand over their heroes." redqueen Oct 2023 #241

President Biden understands the problem ripcord Oct 2023 #221

Syria and Hezbollah hits Israel and it's yet another Arab-Israeli war Kennah Oct 2023 #228

what happens to half the population which are children? bigtree Oct 2023 #239

Egypt et al. will welcome them with open arms, as brothers... Hekate Oct 2023 #266