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Demsrule86

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194. They were never allowed in Arab countries...but were used for decades...

Tue Oct 10, 2023, 11:05 AM

Oct 2023

Everyone is to blame here. Is Israel prepared to kill them all women kids etc.? Leaving them there to starve so close to the border with no food, no jobs and no hope will only create more violence...the right-wing policy of cracking down and building new settlements has led to this as much as anything. And what is the solution? Right now 1000's are dead and being held hostage. It is horrifying. I see both sides. By that I mean the people of GAZA and the horrors of the attack in Israel. Hamas on the other hand needs to be destroyed. I would also like Natanayu to explain how his security failed so badly. Honestly, this is more evidence that the right can't govern anywhere.
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What is going to happen to the 2 million people who cannot escape Gaza in 5 days? [View all] onecaliberal Oct 2023 OP

I want to believe the vast majority here do not want to see that unfold Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #1

I hear zero concern for Palestinian children. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #2

There seems to be way more bloodlust here now redqueen Oct 2023 #3

I agree obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #32

It's depressing redqueen Oct 2023 #42

Palestinians are semitic. Bear Creek Oct 2023 #56

"Both sides are at fault" Zeitghost Oct 2023 #65

Only one side has this as a STATED goal Bettie Oct 2023 #70

Where else do you keep those Zeitghost Oct 2023 #73

Ethnic Cleansing Bear Creek Oct 2023 #179

Ah, the old zionist line Zeitghost Oct 2023 #189

Wrong from the get go Bear Creek Oct 2023 #192

Zionism isn't colonialism Mosby Oct 2023 #200

meh, it was created not even totally natural treestar Oct 2023 #244

The US is stolen land, so yeah. Mosby Oct 2023 #247

You are correct. This is the result of hard right policies and a breakdown in security. Hamas is Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #161

NO MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #91

It's not Zeitghost Oct 2023 #115

How do you know? scipan Oct 2023 #135

Because they tell us with their words and actions Zeitghost Oct 2023 #159

Almost half the country are children. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #183

Yes, how do you know? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #150

+1 scipan Oct 2023 #164

There has not been a vote Dorian Gray Oct 2023 #235

You do understand Zeitghost Oct 2023 #242

Not Hamas Bear Creek Oct 2023 #180

Not stated does not mean it is not a goal treestar Oct 2023 #243

so being smart enough to not state it treestar Oct 2023 #257

Israelis are not Nazis. carpetbagger Oct 2023 #72

Nazis? TiberiusB Oct 2023 #98

"Zionism sounds very close to national socialist?" carpetbagger Oct 2023 #107

I am just concerned with labels in general TiberiusB Oct 2023 #154

The murderers are the bad guys. PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #170

They did go in Bear Creek Oct 2023 #181

It doesn't make them Nazis. carpetbagger Oct 2023 #206

Jews were living in Israel thousands of years ago Mosby Oct 2023 #208

So China has a valid argument about land they're claiming from other countries?!?!? uponit7771 Oct 2023 #225

Chinese aren't an ethnoreligious group Mosby Oct 2023 #236

What difference does it make if they're religious or not? They're using the same dumbass argument uponit7771 Oct 2023 #253

how long ago do we have to repair these things for? treestar Oct 2023 #249

The Jews never left. Mosby Oct 2023 #250

why not just migrate naturally? treestar Oct 2023 #255

I learned something today... radicalleft Oct 2023 #270

Agreed, there was a time when liberals stood for peace and abhorred slaughter and cruelty Magoo48 Oct 2023 #129

The bravery of being out of range nt redqueen Oct 2023 #156

Just as the mass media wants the level of concern for THOSE children to be...and apparently Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #9

I haven't read every thread and every post here on this subject Xavier Breath Oct 2023 #10

To be fair, sarisataka Oct 2023 #18

Any Concern from you for Cha Oct 2023 #28

About the same Bear Creek Oct 2023 #37

I am concerned for all of the innocent. I am making an observation. /END onecaliberal Oct 2023 #39

Concern for people on both sides womanofthehills Oct 2023 #66

THIS onecaliberal Oct 2023 #88

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #93

This is on Hamas. International law is clear on that. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #95

Yes! nt Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #125

I have massive concerns for them. One of the radical RW Likudnik types told a Swedish reporter Celerity Oct 2023 #57

On both sides, right? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #86

I'm disgusted with both sides Skittles Oct 2023 #90

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Oct 2023 #96

I agree Skittles. debm55 Oct 2023 #100

Exactly obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #102

+1 treestar Oct 2023 #246

I don't feel that way...the conditions on GAZA have been and are horrific Where will they go? Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #160

Agree - half of the 2.2 million people jammed like sardines in a tiny area are children womanofthehills Oct 2023 #169

Yes, we are going to stand by. The babies in the nicu are dead once the power was turned off. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #265

And in your OP you showed zero concern for murdered Jewish children. n/t totodeinhere Oct 2023 #212

No one showed O concern for murdered children womanofthehills Oct 2023 #259

Then what would you have Israel do? Do you really expect no response to the atrocities totodeinhere Oct 2023 #271

and an expectation that we cheer on killing them treestar Oct 2023 #256

I'm so disgusted. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #260

I'm horrified by the terrorism by Hamas, and equally by the threat to the people in Gaza jmbar2 Oct 2023 #4

Unfortunately Hamas umis the governent of Gaza ripcord Oct 2023 #5

What's a "umis"...? littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #6

It appears to be a typo of "is". n/t whopis01 Oct 2023 #71

Their government? redqueen Oct 2023 #8

The Japanese government bombed Pearl Harbor Marius25 Oct 2023 #36

No, it was German industrialists EX500rider Oct 2023 #116

Like it or not, the Nazi Party WAS the german govt EX500rider Oct 2023 #118

That was AFTER they almost went bankrupt. nt redqueen Oct 2023 #153

is it elected? treestar Oct 2023 #245

They will be used a human shields by Hamas BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #7

Without water, they'll be dead "human shields" Arazi Oct 2023 #16

That won't matter to either side, most likely. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #17

Egypt could open their border to let them through NickB79 Oct 2023 #11

That's why both countries have a blockade. Marius25 Oct 2023 #38

Arab nations turned their backs on Palestinians many years ago...oh sure they use them Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #162

Huh inthewind21 Oct 2023 #193

The Gaza/Eygpt border is only 7 miles long, Eygpt can certainly close that EX500rider Oct 2023 #219

Are you watching and listening? malaise Oct 2023 #12

Is that a reference to Jewish people being called the chosen people? BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Oct 2023 #41

Hopefully the Palestinian civilians will heed the warnings sarisataka Oct 2023 #14

Pretty clear that Egypt doesn't care about the children of Gaza. onenote Oct 2023 #21

If there is no water, they will die. Do you understand how important water is in the climate? Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #163

You shouldn't call out a person sarisataka Oct 2023 #168

" Into the countryside" ?? womanofthehills Oct 2023 #171

And yet it has countryside EX500rider Oct 2023 #220

Gaza is the 3rd most densely populated area on the planet. 2.2 million people stuffed into an Celerity Oct 2023 #191

Very few seem to care cally Oct 2023 #15

It seems few have learned much at all nt redqueen Oct 2023 #19

if i was in charge of israel here is what i would do first moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #25

"Yes, they do kill them." EX500rider Oct 2023 #122

Fee free to link to where the IDF routinely kills prisoners. EX500rider Oct 2023 #252

Answering atrocities sarisataka Oct 2023 #29

i'd go one step further too moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #31

That'll really fix the problem. HUAJIAO Oct 2023 #58

Probably not redqueen Oct 2023 #158

I can believe it. roamer65 Oct 2023 #26

I can inthewind21 Oct 2023 #54

I can't believe what I'm reading here either MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #99

The massacre of Palestinian civilians.... RussBLib Oct 2023 #22

Genocide. roamer65 Oct 2023 #23

And it's disgusting. Replace Gaza with the Warsaw ghetto and then how do people feel? ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #27

not nearly the same moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #34

Yeah, live with a boot on your neck for 50 years and you want to overthrow your occupiers ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #67

They could have chosen the way of Gandhi and MLK Dave says Oct 2023 #106

I'm afraid those tactics don't have resonance in the 21st Century. carpetbagger Oct 2023 #121

Almost half the citizens of Gaza are children. redqueen Oct 2023 #184

so whats your solution to eliminate hamas moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #187

I'll take comically false equivalencies for $500, Ken. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #45

+1000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #46

I will assume sarisataka Oct 2023 #53

What do you know about the Warsaw ghetto? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #104

Only one side in this conflict Zeitghost Oct 2023 #40

THIS onecaliberal Oct 2023 #44

What is the difference between genocide and ethnic cleansing? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #111

If you are a European American like I am, you are a beneficiary of both. roamer65 Oct 2023 #113

This neither describes nor defines genocide or ethnic cleansing. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #126

Looks like I touched a nerve. roamer65 Oct 2023 #133

I sincerely hope you did, but I feel nothing. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #138

It's obvious that you don't feel anything. roamer65 Oct 2023 #140

Ooh, now I feel something. it feels a little bit like... Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #142

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #151

Ethnic cleansing is pushing people out treestar Oct 2023 #261

Is Egypt not helping them? EllieBC Oct 2023 #24

We don't talk about that. nt sarisataka Oct 2023 #30

Oh I'm aware. EllieBC Oct 2023 #33

Because Zeitghost Oct 2023 #43

So you are labeling all Gazans terrorists? roamer65 Oct 2023 #47

So why isn't Egypt helping? EllieBC Oct 2023 #48

Because it is a very poor and radicalized population. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #166

They were never allowed in Arab countries...but were used for decades... Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #194

They were allowed in both Lebanon and Jordan. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #205

Gazans today presumed to do the same treestar Oct 2023 #263

However you want to label it. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #268

Seriously...ever here of a place called Syraia? Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #272

What's your method Zeitghost Oct 2023 #51

Why do they support Hamas? roamer65 Oct 2023 #55

And... Zeitghost Oct 2023 #59

Won't happen if we give the Palestinian people hope. roamer65 Oct 2023 #60

They have continiuosly Zeitghost Oct 2023 #62

"Those who live by the sword, shall indeed die by it." roamer65 Oct 2023 #63

Fitting words Zeitghost Oct 2023 #64

Nope. It's because not supporting Hamas is life-threaqtening. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #117

I read earlier (DU post) that they haven't had free, transparent, open elections in 15 years Dave says Oct 2023 #109

+1000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #120

Zionism is only a religious cult if you read Iranian propaganda. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #130

It's predominantly far right Judaism. roamer65 Oct 2023 #131

It is not. In fact it is not even related to Judaism Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #137

Most far right Jews Sgent Oct 2023 #172

But there they sit and inhabit illegal settlements. roamer65 Oct 2023 #174

You need to look on a mirror obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #134

'and put them in power. " the Palestinian people have NOT spoken recently on who is to lead them uponit7771 Oct 2023 #226

Egypt has found when the border is open Gaza DOES export terrorists, thats why it is closed EX500rider Oct 2023 #128

Who knew inthewind21 Oct 2023 #195

The Egypt Gaza border is much smaller than the Israel EX500rider Oct 2023 #196

The Egyptian/Gaza border is only 7 miles long. nt EX500rider Oct 2023 #216

since 1948 the demand that Arab countries treestar Oct 2023 #262

If it's not happening on their block, CCExile Oct 2023 #35

The right? inthewind21 Oct 2023 #197

Complex problems and frustration CCExile Oct 2023 #237

We are seeing the beginnings of WW3, onecaliberal. roamer65 Oct 2023 #49

??? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #103

Every time Hamas carries out an attack people get upset when they strike back ripcord Oct 2023 #50

How long is Israel supposed to endure terrorist attacks? Zeitghost Oct 2023 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author lostnfound Oct 2023 #61

Hamas executes Palestinians they see as not being anti Israel enough JI7 Oct 2023 #68

My concern is FOR the INNOCENT people. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #69

Those Palestinians they execute are innocent JI7 Oct 2023 #75

No Kidding. What is your point? I already reiterated that I am concerned for the innocent. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #76

So come up with a way to get rid of Hamas and present that plan to the world JI7 Oct 2023 #77

I'm done with this conversation. Your comment is not serious. I can be concerned for anyone I onecaliberal Oct 2023 #79

+1000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #80

Easy, occupy GAZA and separate all men and boys into sub ghetto for 2yrs ... uponit7771 Oct 2023 #227

apparently they mean that treestar Oct 2023 #264

Collective punishment by the unevolved. liberalmuse Oct 2023 #74

Exactly Dave says Oct 2023 #112

And when we got sick of war Sgent Oct 2023 #173

Like the honey badger, Bibi don't care peppertree Oct 2023 #78

+1000000000 roamer65 Oct 2023 #81

Thank you very much peppertree Oct 2023 #147

Or you could read the news and find out EX500rider Oct 2023 #222

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #108

Thank you kindly peppertree Oct 2023 #148

Hamas doesn't care Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #82

Of course they don't care. roamer65 Oct 2023 #127

Dor gawd's sake and your own, look up Zionism! Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #132

Maybe Egypt can open its border and let them cross? oldsoftie Oct 2023 #83

They've tried before and Hamas terrorists come through Arazi Oct 2023 #136

Thank you! oldsoftie Oct 2023 #143

I am talking about CHILDREN, NOT HAMAS. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #267

At annual summer camps, Hamas trains children... Arazi Oct 2023 #269

I suspect the refugees are going to be about as popular as nuclear waste. BrightKnight Oct 2023 #177

Oh my inthewind21 Oct 2023 #199

The current Palestinian population did **NOT** vote for Hamas uponit7771 Oct 2023 #229

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Oct 2023 #84

WOW! onecaliberal Oct 2023 #85

WHY Didn't HAMAS Give A Cha Oct 2023 #87

The same reason they don't care about Isreal. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #89

And that reason is? Dave says Oct 2023 #119

They want to rule and control. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #141

And like Netanyahu reps Israelis redqueen Oct 2023 #155

collective reprisals against civilians mike_c Oct 2023 #92

I'm going to get my butt kicked, but I don't care... slightlv Oct 2023 #97

.... scipan Oct 2023 #114

Thank you for the very thoughtful comment. So heartbreaking. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #144

No butt kicking from me Deuxcents Oct 2023 #146

Wow a thoughtful and nuanced response róisín_dubh Oct 2023 #188

There used to be more of those here redqueen Oct 2023 #190

Indeed inthewind21 Oct 2023 #201

Yeah no kidding róisín_dubh Oct 2023 #209

No, Palistinians are dancing in the streets celebrating the murder of innocent Jewish children. totodeinhere Oct 2023 #213

Kindness and empathy. PufPuf23 Oct 2023 #224

Many DUers do not care obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #101

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #105

Yup obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #123

Indeed, and some who I thought would be joining in have very pleasantly surprised me and are Celerity Oct 2023 #223

Don't think their Middle Eastern brothers will be there for them. ancianita Oct 2023 #110

K and R Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #124

While I ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #139

1000 israelis is like 30k americans moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #145

It's a ForgedCrank Oct 2023 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Oct 2023 #202

Take out the terrorists inthewind21 Oct 2023 #203

They will be slaughtered by the hundreds and by the thousands and those doing the killing RockRaven Oct 2023 #152

I think most people know they are not allowed to leave womanofthehills Oct 2023 #175

+1, uponit7771 Oct 2023 #230

How many of those 2 million are sympathetic to Hamas? How big is Hamas? onenote Oct 2023 #157

More than half because They were elected. nt BrightKnight Oct 2023 #178

17 years ago. No elections since. onenote Oct 2023 #182

Why can't Eygpt send food & water across the border? EX500rider Oct 2023 #165

There is an outlet to Egypt pfitz59 Oct 2023 #167

Heart breaking but they did vote for the people launching the rockets. BrightKnight Oct 2023 #176

No elections in 17 years. Almost half the country are children. redqueen Oct 2023 #185

If the international community organized an election last month Hamas would have won in a landslide. BrightKnight Oct 2023 #218

Do you know when the last election was there? onecaliberal Oct 2023 #186

What inthewind21 Oct 2023 #204

wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #207

This is false uponit7771 Oct 2023 #231

I'll keep this post in mind the next time there's a thread about an 11 year old, Crunchy Frog Oct 2023 #238

War crimes, technically. Iggo Oct 2023 #198

Technically and legally róisín_dubh Oct 2023 #210

It's truly unfuckingbelievable. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #214

Ayup. Iggo Oct 2023 #215

Yep. It's seriously depressing nt redqueen Oct 2023 #240

What would you have Israel do in response to the murder of innocent Jewish children? totodeinhere Oct 2023 #211

I don't pay attention to ME till now, it seems like Palestians are acting normal towards the.. uponit7771 Oct 2023 #232

If they are trying to kill them off why does their population continue to increase ? JI7 Oct 2023 #233

Cause they're bad at it? (Link) uponit7771 Oct 2023 #234

an eye for an eye is what that is treestar Oct 2023 #248

I wish there were another solution, but how can there be when Hamas has in its totodeinhere Oct 2023 #251

Does Hamas have that ability? treestar Oct 2023 #254

I don't know if Hamas actually has that ability but I am afraid that Hamas totodeinhere Oct 2023 #258

Collateral damage pfitz59 Oct 2023 #217

"I doubt 'the people' of Gaza will just hand over their heroes." redqueen Oct 2023 #241

President Biden understands the problem ripcord Oct 2023 #221

Syria and Hezbollah hits Israel and it's yet another Arab-Israeli war Kennah Oct 2023 #228

what happens to half the population which are children? bigtree Oct 2023 #239

Egypt et al. will welcome them with open arms, as brothers... Hekate Oct 2023 #266