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In reply to the discussion: Israel has long wanted Palestinians out of Gaza - my father saw it firsthand (Guardian) [View all]Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)21. Can you verify that...
...the Oct. 7 attack was supported b a majority of Gazans?
I have read that just prior to Oct 7, the majority of Gazans were against hamas;
From foreignaffairs.com:
"The argument that the entire population of Gaza can be held responsible for Hamass actions is quickly discredited when one looks at the facts. Arab Barometer, a research network where we serve as co-principal investigators, conducted a survey in Gaza and the West Bank days before the Israel-Hamas war broke out. The findings, published here for the first time, reveal that rather than supporting Hamas, the vast majority of Gazans have been frustrated with the armed groups ineffective governance as they endure extreme economic hardship. Most Gazans do not align themselves with Hamass ideology, either. Unlike Hamas, whose goal is to destroy the Israeli state, the majority of survey respondents favored a two-state solution with an independent Palestine and Israel existing side by side.
(Full article: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas )
"The argument that the entire population of Gaza can be held responsible for Hamass actions is quickly discredited when one looks at the facts. Arab Barometer, a research network where we serve as co-principal investigators, conducted a survey in Gaza and the West Bank days before the Israel-Hamas war broke out. The findings, published here for the first time, reveal that rather than supporting Hamas, the vast majority of Gazans have been frustrated with the armed groups ineffective governance as they endure extreme economic hardship. Most Gazans do not align themselves with Hamass ideology, either. Unlike Hamas, whose goal is to destroy the Israeli state, the majority of survey respondents favored a two-state solution with an independent Palestine and Israel existing side by side.
(Full article: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas )
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Israel has long wanted Palestinians out of Gaza - my father saw it firsthand (Guardian) [View all]
David__77
Nov 2023
OP
The large majority were not of voting age the last time there were elections. Close to a majority weren't even born!
David__77
Nov 2023
#7
The point is that support for Hamas makes you a legitimate military target.
Lucky Luciano
Nov 2023
#70
My understanding is that combatants, specifically, are legitimate military targets.
David__77
Nov 2023
#72
Increase is approx. 6x. If original refugees are dead, that's a HECK of a birthrate, right there... nt
yagotme
Nov 2023
#80
I think as people get older, they may often lose perspective of how quickly the world changes.
David__77
Nov 2023
#98
Of course, it also ignores the nearly equal number of Jews who fled or were expelled from Arab countries
tritsofme
Nov 2023
#92
So you're advocating for the entire population to be treated as enemy combatants?
WarGamer
Nov 2023
#12
The point I was making... is that the IDF has the capability to strike individual fighters.
WarGamer
Nov 2023
#35
It was actually Fatah who feared Hamas would also beat them in the West Bank, as well as Gaza
tritsofme
Nov 2023
#91
I might add that Trump was the elected leader of the United States and thus represents all of us?
LiberalArkie
Nov 2023
#42
Seems like the Palestinians would like a bunch of Palestinians out of Palestine.
NoRethugFriends
Nov 2023
#46
One thing about the tactic of keeping the Palestinian people in poverty to get rid of them.
Uncle Joe
Nov 2023
#87