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In reply to the discussion: Israel has long wanted Palestinians out of Gaza - my father saw it firsthand (Guardian) [View all]yagotme
(4,136 posts)108. Your post:
The 400,000 referred to in your quote from the article was in 1948. That was 75 years ago.
That would put the vast majority of the original refugees into their 90s or beyond. I dont think it takes a lot of logic to deduce that most of them have passed away by now.
That would put the vast majority of the original refugees into their 90s or beyond. I dont think it takes a lot of logic to deduce that most of them have passed away by now.
You used the term logic. I believe the numbers for adults are fishy, as, per my post, the natural assumption is that adults will produce generational offspring. The article goes from the 400,000 original settlers to today's population, while inferring that not very many adults that voted for Hamas are still alive, throughout the sub thread. I threw a flag, as I don't believe that, and I understand perfectly well that any adult alive in 1948 would be very elderly today, even 17 years ago. But their grandchildren/great grandchildren wouldn't. And those would be the ones that voted Hamas in. Where are THEY at, if 1/2 the population is "kids"?
I would say, though, I was doing double duty with my response to you. I was adding info that you didn't necessarily ask for, because I knew other posters would, so I "saved some bandwith" with my response.
I assume that you wish to make some sort of point about whether or not people who voted for Hamas are responsible for what is happening.
No. Just when it is pointed out that Hamas WAS elected in, and are now the current government of Gaza, a lot of people throw out the "17 years ago" bit. Yes, it was 17 years ago. No other election has been done. Their country, their rule. That's why it's called a terrorist state. The terrorists have control of it. I'm not blaming the rank and file Gazan for what their evil leaders do. However, there are those that DO believe that Hamas has their best interests at heart, however misguided they may be. Those are the ones cheering and celebrating after Oct 7.
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Israel has long wanted Palestinians out of Gaza - my father saw it firsthand (Guardian) [View all]
David__77
Nov 2023
OP
The large majority were not of voting age the last time there were elections. Close to a majority weren't even born!
David__77
Nov 2023
#7
The point is that support for Hamas makes you a legitimate military target.
Lucky Luciano
Nov 2023
#70
My understanding is that combatants, specifically, are legitimate military targets.
David__77
Nov 2023
#72
Increase is approx. 6x. If original refugees are dead, that's a HECK of a birthrate, right there... nt
yagotme
Nov 2023
#80
I think as people get older, they may often lose perspective of how quickly the world changes.
David__77
Nov 2023
#98
Of course, it also ignores the nearly equal number of Jews who fled or were expelled from Arab countries
tritsofme
Nov 2023
#92
So you're advocating for the entire population to be treated as enemy combatants?
WarGamer
Nov 2023
#12
The point I was making... is that the IDF has the capability to strike individual fighters.
WarGamer
Nov 2023
#35
It was actually Fatah who feared Hamas would also beat them in the West Bank, as well as Gaza
tritsofme
Nov 2023
#91
I might add that Trump was the elected leader of the United States and thus represents all of us?
LiberalArkie
Nov 2023
#42
Seems like the Palestinians would like a bunch of Palestinians out of Palestine.
NoRethugFriends
Nov 2023
#46
One thing about the tactic of keeping the Palestinian people in poverty to get rid of them.
Uncle Joe
Nov 2023
#87