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David__77

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39. Agreed on point number 2 - there's no wiggle room in that statement, which needs to be backed up.

Reply to Martin Eden (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 2, 2023, 01:26 PM

Dec 2023

On point number 1, it could be an assessment that, ultimately, Israel will do what the US says. That could be wrong.

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The US will "under no circumstances" permit the forced relocation of Palestinians, Harris says [View all] Donkees Dec 2023 OP

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Dec 2023 #1

K&R! Goddessartist Dec 2023 #2

The fact this needed to be said is quite damning RAB910 Dec 2023 #3

KNR niyad Dec 2023 #4

I'm curious; by "not permit" what does she mean? RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #5

The US could cut all aid and diplomatic support. David__77 Dec 2023 #7

Can the executive branch do that without support of Congress? RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #8

I imagine there's grey area with the power of the branches. David__77 Dec 2023 #10

Netanyahu will have to decide Bettie Dec 2023 #25

It's pretty simple. Funding will cease flowing. brush Dec 2023 #41

So, the executive branch can do that without Congress? RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #47

How it's done is not the issue now. It's the delivery of the message to Netanyahu... brush Dec 2023 #50

I don't disagree with the intent RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #51

It's getting down to funding. Netayahu is not immune to the realpolitiks... brush Dec 2023 #52

Interesting that the word "permit" was used.. David__77 Dec 2023 #6

I thought that was interesting, too. yardwork Dec 2023 #9

It's a bad word to use, for TWO REASONS: Martin Eden Dec 2023 #38

Agreed on point number 2 - there's no wiggle room in that statement, which needs to be backed up. David__77 Dec 2023 #39

Right. It's about the funding, which includes the weapons used by the IDF. brush Dec 2023 #44

I remember when that sort of intemperate language was quite common. jaxexpat Dec 2023 #75

I'm for it, but I must have missed this being a thing. gulliver Dec 2023 #11

"Rejecting US stance, PM told Blinken that IDF will create buffer zone 'deep' into Gaza -- report" David__77 Dec 2023 #12

Ah, that could be. gulliver Dec 2023 #14

I agree with a buffer zone. At least a half mile on each side of the border. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #17

They may try to deport the people in Gaza. David__77 Dec 2023 #19

Would a buffer zone require a forced relocation of some people? MichMan Dec 2023 #35

Yes, it would. David__77 Dec 2023 #48

A 2-state solution with the Palestinian Authority in control NickB79 Dec 2023 #13

A large problem with that is that almost all the RW Netanyahu government and their illegal settler supporters Celerity Dec 2023 #26

Shouldn't be their choice anyway. Think. Again. Dec 2023 #33

Absolutely, hamas must go. Think. Again. Dec 2023 #32

A two state solution is not viable. David__77 Dec 2023 #54

The only way Hamas will ever agree to a two state solution is if neither one of the states is Israel. MichMan Dec 2023 #72

Bibi is against a two-state solution as well. Bibi will be gone after the war is over. Possibly Hamas too. brush Dec 2023 #76

Too bad no one in the Middle East has stepped up to help. SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #87

But "permitting" the slaughter of thousands....n/t leftstreet Dec 2023 #15

Unfortunately, this campaign is done with active military and diplomatic support. David__77 Dec 2023 #22

netanfuckyou is mr settlement. pansypoo53219 Dec 2023 #16

Biden has said this to President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi, as has Blinken... Donkees Dec 2023 #18

Now demand an end to West Bank Settlements and the dismantling of many that are there prodigitalson Dec 2023 #20

and compensation for those whose property was illegally taken DBoon Dec 2023 #21

The settlements are on about 5% of the West Bank Mosby Dec 2023 #42

Apparently, like the Native Americans, people didn't have their documents in order, I suppose. David__77 Dec 2023 #53

So because it's not deeded does that mean anyone can take it but Palestinians law? Thanks in advance uponit7771 Dec 2023 #90

And bar settlers from getting US visas. David__77 Dec 2023 #23

25% of the settlers are Americans. Mosby Dec 2023 #43

I didn't say bar them citizenship. Charge them with a crime. David__77 Dec 2023 #46

Right, let's punish women and children for being born in a 50 year old Jewish neighborhood. tritsofme Dec 2023 #58

Not for being born. For engaging in settlement. David__77 Dec 2023 #59

For generations of families, it's just where they were born. tritsofme Dec 2023 #66

That is part of why a two state solution will not work. David__77 Dec 2023 #67

Probably not. Ideally Gaza would revert to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan. tritsofme Dec 2023 #69

Hopefully Egypt and Jordan would reject that. David__77 Dec 2023 #70

What is the difference Zeitghost Dec 2023 #93

But, it's OK for the US to continue to punish the majority of Cubans who were born after the Cold War. Marcus IM Dec 2023 #60

Pls, there's enough to discuss with the Gaza situation. Cuba is another topic. brush Dec 2023 #77

It's relating to collective punishment. Marcus IM Dec 2023 #88

Forced relocation seems fine to be fine to some Zeitghost Dec 2023 #92

A bold & welcomed statement. Basic LA Dec 2023 #24

Under no circumstances and permit. Those are very strong words when talking about another sovereign power. paleotn Dec 2023 #27

Yep, speaking directly to Netanyahu/Likud. No new Nakba or re-drawing of borders. brush Dec 2023 #45

And we're providing 2000 lb bunker buster bombs to prove it! Marcus IM Dec 2023 #28

She is perhaps being hung out to dry when you look at that plus what is likely to be 14.5 billion usd given to Celerity Dec 2023 #57

Prez Biden MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #61

U.S. Sends Israel 2,000-Pound Bunker Buster Bombs for Gaza War Celerity Dec 2023 #63

That's the harsh reality of the situation. The US can in no way be an honest broker... brush Dec 2023 #78

As an aside--our VP Harris is getting lots of foreign policy experience. riversedge Dec 2023 #29

When we moniss Dec 2023 #30

Thank Goddess!! claudette Dec 2023 #31

K&R onecaliberal Dec 2023 #34

I hate to bring this up, but... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #36

We discussed the gas field here on Nov 20... Donkees Dec 2023 #37

I meant on the international level... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #40

Good question. I wouldn't put it past Netanyahu to want to get his hands on it. brush Dec 2023 #49

Israel controls Gaza's territorial waters, at present... Donkees Dec 2023 #55

And when the U.S. says... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #79

When Gaza becomes a state, its territorial waters should come under their control ... Donkees Dec 2023 #80

Here is a map of Maritime Boundary Claim (Gaza Corridor) Donkees Dec 2023 #82

Map of Gas Field (Gaza Marine) Donkees Dec 2023 #83

Thanks for going out of your way to explain that to me... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #84

I am trying to understand this as well. Agree with you, all sides are focusing on the buried treasure Donkees Dec 2023 #86

Marking.... Gaza's gas wells questionseverything Dec 2023 #89

That's claudette Dec 2023 #81

Yeah... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #85

Context generally helps. lapucelle Dec 2023 #56

I don't see a difference. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #62

Maybe you should should read it again then. lapucelle Dec 2023 #64

There is no such caveat in the official readout. David__77 Dec 2023 #65

I think that's called "messaging." N/T lapucelle Dec 2023 #68

It is a little late for that. Somewhere around 50% of homes are now rubble. Chainfire Dec 2023 #71

Some quick thoughts... Shipwack Dec 2023 #73

The press chose an interesting time Mr.Bill Dec 2023 #74

I do appreciate her words. They are very strong words indeed. David__77 Dec 2023 #91