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Irish_Dem

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68. We don't know the full extent of the MAGA party throughout the US govt.

Fri May 17, 2024, 01:56 PM

May 2024

And amongst the billionaires who wield quite a bit of power.

The numbers don't really matter any more.
The GOP knows it cannot win an honest election.
So gerrymandering and voter suppression, Russian propaganda,
and a corrupt congress and judicial system will go a long way to grabbing power.

It is not about how many Magas exist, but who has the power.
We know from other autocratic countries a small group can control huge populations.

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We are watching history in the making: the GOP is breaking apart. [View all] Irish_Dem May 2024 OP

We told you this was coming malaise May 2024 #1

Yes we have seen it coming. Irish_Dem May 2024 #2

The word is stunning malaise May 2024 #3

Yes totally gobsmacking. Irish_Dem May 2024 #9

I made this 5 years ago Roy Rolling May 2024 #30

You made a chilling prediction of things to come. Irish_Dem May 2024 #33

Interesting story about the dog depicted in the original advertisement Wednesdays May 2024 #72

Thanks. Irish_Dem May 2024 #82

The RCA dog's name was Nipper. Captain Zero May 2024 #153

Freaking perfect malaise May 2024 #35

"The oligarchs are backing MAGA." jaxexpat May 2024 #42

The oligarchs desire more power and wealth. Irish_Dem May 2024 #60

Which is rather bizarre PatSeg May 2024 #84

Relentless pursuit of power and wealth is an addiction. Irish_Dem May 2024 #92

Exactly PatSeg May 2024 #114

Yes capitalistic adoration of the wealthy needs to be rethought. Irish_Dem May 2024 #116

Yes, too often the poor and middle class PatSeg May 2024 #120

Yes Americans have been voting against their self interests for a long time. Irish_Dem May 2024 #122

The Autocratic Personality Metaphorical May 2024 #107

"It's the score they're after, the tangible PatSeg May 2024 #115

Yes but the score keeping has an addictive quality to it, like greed does. Irish_Dem May 2024 #123

Here are some numbers about the wealth divide Old Crank May 2024 #148

I have been saying the US is an oligarchy for some time. Irish_Dem May 2024 #157

The US has been an oligarchy since the 1880s, with the rise of corporate personhood Metaphorical May 2024 #166

" The oligarchs are backing MAGA." apnu May 2024 #156

I planted 8 rolls of popcorn in the garden. Should Emile May 2024 #18

I'd enjoy it more if it was just a movie. Irish_Dem May 2024 #19

No one would have beleived it 10 years ago hot2na May 2024 #29

The script would have been rejected as too improbable. Irish_Dem May 2024 #32

These fuckers have been at it since 1932. hadEnuf May 2024 #66

Yes the year FDR was elected. Irish_Dem May 2024 #67

... and they plotted a coup. Codifer May 2024 #144

As always, wealth, power and status give white males a pass. Irish_Dem May 2024 #149

LOL malaise May 2024 #36

Does watering make them soggy? KS Toronado May 2024 #38

I use a light drizzling of Lea and Perrins on mine. littlemissmartypants May 2024 #111

They have lost their minds. Their faith in the sham the orange one has created is 100%. tetedur May 2024 #4

They know exactly what they are doing. Irish_Dem May 2024 #11

They haven't succeeded yet. Think. Again. May 2024 #52

This is sickening bdamomma May 2024 #141

They've been brainwashed all their lifves, they think God won't like them if they vote for Democrats Walleye May 2024 #5

They must demonize various groups as part of their power grab. Irish_Dem May 2024 #12

In 2015 the swastikas and pro-Drumph graffiti started showing up. Evolve Dammit May 2024 #50

Pence being hanged would have changed nothing for MAGAs. Irish_Dem May 2024 #59

Think we the people will ever see an unredacted Evolve Dammit May 2024 #61

Why do you think it is not being released? Irish_Dem May 2024 #69

Guessing it contains incriminating evidence on folks that don't want that evidence to be public? What's Evolve Dammit May 2024 #132

One of the things that was the most weirdly shocking to me was a semi obscure incident. Sky Jewels May 2024 #101

Because it is like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." Irish_Dem May 2024 #118

Exactly. Sky Jewels May 2024 #145

Good observation. I had no idea, but I think it is waaaay more widespread than "we" know. Evolve Dammit May 2024 #133

Putin loves it Walleye May 2024 #64

Putin and Xi are delighted at the success of their war against the US. Irish_Dem May 2024 #71

Yep. Despite the puffery about strength America is weak. Marcus IM May 2024 #91

Trump is an audit of the entire US government. Irish_Dem May 2024 #96

And the more Americans can be made to fear SomedayKindaLove May 2024 #127

Will it happen fast enough? Silent3 May 2024 #6

This pivotal time in US history is still unfolding. Irish_Dem May 2024 #13

"You are at your best when things are at their worst." Starman CrispyQ May 2024 #56

Yes we don't know how this story will end. Irish_Dem May 2024 #62

A time of peril and great uncertainty bucolic_frolic May 2024 #7

We are in one of the most dangerous times in US history. Irish_Dem May 2024 #16

Yes but until the electorate realizes this they will remain in power. Kablooie May 2024 #8

Sometimes people have to hit rock bottom to wake up. Irish_Dem May 2024 #21

I actually think the party is just coalescing around its more radical leaders. Lonestarblue May 2024 #10

Yes but we can argue this is leading up to the split. Irish_Dem May 2024 #22

We are not out of the woods yet. surfered May 2024 #14

Exactly. Irish_Dem May 2024 #23

Unfortunately more people are being brainwashed. Also, I think more people won't mucifer May 2024 #15

Yes if the people vote out democracy it will be a steep learning curve for them. Irish_Dem May 2024 #24

Unfortunately the GOP is also breaking apart more than their Party. gordianot May 2024 #17

Yes the GOP is taking a wrecking ball to our country. Irish_Dem May 2024 #25

A historical corallary on party names. wnylib May 2024 #34

The NSDAP (the Nazis) and its precursor, the DAP, were not 'left wing' socialist, although they did Celerity May 2024 #113

Thanks for the additional details on the involvement of wnylib May 2024 #140

They will take all of us down with them John Shaft May 2024 #20

Make no mistake, they will burn it all down to get what they want. Irish_Dem May 2024 #27

Yes. Many of them -now- just want to make (our) world burn. FailureToCommunicate May 2024 #28

Yes the GOP is full of ruthless sadistic sociopaths. Irish_Dem May 2024 #31

The GOP has become the Chaos Party. sop May 2024 #26

Was this written 5 years ago? Johnny2X2X May 2024 #37

Unfotunately true. honest.abe May 2024 #44

It has been ongoing for some time yes. Irish_Dem May 2024 #48

It didn't split in half Johnny2X2X May 2024 #54

We don't know the full extent of the MAGA party throughout the US govt. Irish_Dem May 2024 #68

When more rational Republicans realized dlk May 2024 #39

Yes one of the most perilous times in US history. Irish_Dem May 2024 #55

The GOP's malignant need to be in control has caused their downfall dlk May 2024 #63

Making a deal with the devil does not always end well. Irish_Dem May 2024 #70

The world has changed since 2015/2016. ClearSky24 May 2024 #40

Yes the autocratic cyberwar intensified against the US. Irish_Dem May 2024 #73

If Biden loses this election, we will be seeing that headline about Democrats. doc03 May 2024 #41

Yes Putin and Xi have been working on that strategy as well. Irish_Dem May 2024 #74

Until the likes of Romney, Christie, Haley, and others stand on the stage with Biden and endorse him this is hogwash. OrlandoDem2 May 2024 #43

I said the GOP is fractured, that does not mean they become Democrats. Irish_Dem May 2024 #75

And yet we could still lose in Nov. honest.abe May 2024 #45

Yes of course we could lose in Nov. Irish_Dem May 2024 #77

It should have happened already FakeNoose May 2024 #46

Because 2021 whet their appetite. Irish_Dem May 2024 #80

I just wish the GOP would hurry up and finish self-destructing already. ShazzieB May 2024 #47

The GOP has been torturing the country and at war with the US for decades. Irish_Dem May 2024 #85

I know it's been going on for a long time. ShazzieB May 2024 #108

I know. But I just got this bad feeling. Baitball Blogger May 2024 #49

Yes I agree. Violence is a deliberate GOP strategy. Irish_Dem May 2024 #86

K&R BumRushDaShow May 2024 #51

You're so insightful Irish Dem Duncanpup May 2024 #53

It can't happen soon enough. spanone May 2024 #57

I will only believe it JustAnotherGen May 2024 #58

Not fast enough IMO republianmushroom May 2024 #65

I'll just say i have heard similar sarisataka May 2024 #76

Don't kid yourself . . . markpkessinger May 2024 #78

Some of the GOP cult is peeling off. Irish_Dem May 2024 #88

They aren't"BREAKING APART" and believing so will be B.See May 2024 #79

The GOP breaking apart has nothing to do with MAGA attempts to take power. Irish_Dem May 2024 #89

It might be argued that the GOP B.See May 2024 #110

It may be too late. They dont need a gop. They may not need voters. getagrip_already May 2024 #81

EXACTLY n/t B.See May 2024 #83

Yes MAGA knows it cannot win in honest elections. Irish_Dem May 2024 #90

I agree with getagrip FHRRK May 2024 #87

You are correct, it could be too late. Irish_Dem May 2024 #94

And the GOP's dragging the Republic down with it. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #93

GOP is destroying the most successful democracy in the history of the world. Irish_Dem May 2024 #95

Which is WHY they won't win. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #97

I will always fight the good fight until I cannot draw breath. Irish_Dem May 2024 #100

I really hope... berksdem May 2024 #98

The split is more like a splinter ThoughtCriminal May 2024 #99

Research shows that cult members peel off with each truth bomb. Irish_Dem May 2024 #102

Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment Blue Idaho May 2024 #105

Excellent news. Irish_Dem May 2024 #106

Thanks for your support! Blue Idaho May 2024 #158

Wow that is fabulous. Irish_Dem May 2024 #159

You are too kind! Blue Idaho May 2024 #160

I have visited Idaho twice. Irish_Dem May 2024 #162

Don't hold your breath. awesomerwb1 May 2024 #103

I am not ready to give up. Irish_Dem May 2024 #104

The problem is that young people are increasingly associating themselves with the Republican Party. PeaceWave May 2024 #109

Young people will have a steep and painful learning curve. Irish_Dem May 2024 #117

My deep optimistic hope is based in the fact that... littlemissmartypants May 2024 #112

Yes but we don't know what the big change will be after the chaos. Irish_Dem May 2024 #119

Except it doesn't say big, it says great. littlemissmartypants May 2024 #125

I read it as big change. Irish_Dem May 2024 #131

Liz Cheney said Biden must win. She is voting for Biden...I can't believe it. Demsrule86 May 2024 #121

Yes another example of what I am talking about in this OP. Irish_Dem May 2024 #124

I called a long time ago that the GOP bubble was going to get so big it would collapse on itself. Initech May 2024 #126

Yes it was not sustainable. Irish_Dem May 2024 #135

For some time now, I was fully convinced the GOP was going through a Dixicrats in '48 moment. Torchlight May 2024 #128

It is already happening. Irish_Dem May 2024 #136

It's primary season & they are bickering. TBF May 2024 #129

I could argue the GOP is now in uncharted territory. Irish_Dem May 2024 #137

I understand your argument but disagree - TBF May 2024 #146

The question is did they get their timing wrong because of dumbass trump or bullimiami May 2024 #130

This is one of the most dramatic periods in US history. Irish_Dem May 2024 #138

They're trying to take us all down with them, so no Schadenfreude from me. Hekate May 2024 #134

I have no joy either. Irish_Dem May 2024 #139

Bush was a turning point. 58Sunliner May 2024 #142

Yes his brother and the SC installed Bush into the WH. Irish_Dem May 2024 #143

Yes. I was thinking of Clinton. Another point of no return for them. 58Sunliner May 2024 #151

Exactly. Irish_Dem May 2024 #152

Did not know that. Jeez. 58Sunliner May 2024 #154

We have never seen Bush sober. Irish_Dem May 2024 #155

My only hope is that our Democratic leaders and other smart BlueKota May 2024 #147

Great comment BK. Irish_Dem May 2024 #150

This started ForgedCrank May 2024 #161

I hope you are correct. Irish_Dem May 2024 #164

And yet, there's a very real possibility that they're going to take over the country next year. They never die. BlueTsunami2018 May 2024 #163

I don't mean the MAGAs are breaking up. Irish_Dem May 2024 #165