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AloeVera

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114. "THEY" being 2 people who quickly put the banner away.

Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:31 PM

Jun 2024

Even they seemed ashamed of it.

What gets me is the broad-brush of "terrorist supporters" the protesters are painted with. The large majority are there to protest Israel's many war crimes and want the war to stop. Period. But any mention of that, and we are called idiots who've fallen for Russian propaganda or some such nonsense.

It's about the way the war is waged, the plethora of hideous war crimes and the resulting suffering of Palestinians.

We need neither Putin nor the UN to tell us war crimes are being committed. But still, it's good to see our beliefs confirmed by the UN report out today. Israel has committed atrocious war crimes. This war must end.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/06/israeli-authorities-palestinian-armed-groups-are-responsible-war-crimes

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Demonstrations In New York Make Several Things Clear [View all] The Magistrate Jun 2024 OP

The thing it proves is Democracy is alive and well. marble falls Jun 2024 #1

Industrial Grade Bullshit, Dear The Magistrate Jun 2024 #5

To bad Hamas doesn't stand for Democracy. William769 Jun 2024 #39

Yes, that is why there is an ICC arrest warrant for Netayahu.. TeamProg Jun 2024 #68

Funny you didn't mention also for the leaders of Hamas. William769 Jun 2024 #73

Not really EX500rider Jun 2024 #100

That sounds serious. Torchlight Jun 2024 #161

Sure does. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #187

Not really when in fact you look behind who is financing a lot of these chaos agents Bev54 Jun 2024 #48

It "Proves" Exactly what The Magistrate SAys it Does.. Hamas is NOT Cha Jun 2024 #83

This is what Democracy looks like? LeftInTX Jun 2024 #148

No doubt the response to your inquiry will be coming tout de suite! Abolishinist Jun 2024 #206

"Democracy" has a new meaning. So many words have new and wrong definitions now it's hard to keep up. betsuni Jun 2024 #211

Yes. The American people have been played. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #2

Netanyahoo paid HAMAS. Was he doing it with funds from Russia or was that separate? lark Jun 2024 #14

That's not true. Mosby Jun 2024 #90

"Netanyahoo paid HAMAS." Link for that please EX500rider Jun 2024 #102

Okay atreides1 Jun 2024 #176

So you think it would have been a better PR move to prevent foreign aid to the Gazans? EX500rider Jun 2024 #178

This mularkey keeps being thrown around because TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #188

You are sadly misinformed. Or should I say, disinformed. yardwork Jun 2024 #137

Wow, that's an extreme assumption on your part. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #3

It's A Conclusion From Evidence, Dear The Magistrate Jun 2024 #4

Wow, you have evidence that... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #15

Because You Work Very Hard Not To Believe It The Magistrate Jun 2024 #16

Cool, do you also have evidence... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #34

That's just nasty, Think. Again. Hekate Jun 2024 #98

Yes it is. betsuni Jun 2024 #101

Yes, dear... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #107

Yes, dear... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #106

Standard. edisdead Jun 2024 #111

Over the line. edisdead Jun 2024 #110

Yes dear,... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #113

Yeah, Rec.. TY Cha Jun 2024 #128

For Yrs, Netanyahu propped up Hamas womanofthehills Jun 2024 #168

So What? The Magistrate Jun 2024 #169

Didn't pick the right terrorist organization to partner with? TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #190

I do as well PatSeg Jun 2024 #72

Rude and condescending replies do not make you correct Pmc1962 Jun 2024 #21

No, Being Correct Is What Does That The Magistrate Jun 2024 #22

Please do not call other posters "Dear" obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #35

Considering the adoption by some of an ideology that calls for mass murder of Jews NutmegYankee Jun 2024 #66

It's not either-or. Croney Jun 2024 #70

Hang on, are you implying... Think. Again. Jun 2024 #77

I'm referring to the OP and the mindset of The Magistrate for his snarky response. NutmegYankee Jun 2024 #78

I misunderstood your post. Think. Again. Jun 2024 #79

Understood. NutmegYankee Jun 2024 #81

Large portions of the kids protesting are Jews womanofthehills Jun 2024 #82

I'm not anti two state solution. I very much desire it. NutmegYankee Jun 2024 #84

Looking at the film of these specific NYC protests maxsolomon Jun 2024 #97

I woukd like to see evidence. edisdead Jun 2024 #112

"ProPal" tend to struggle mightily with math, history, and definitions of words. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #191

+1 betsuni Jun 2024 #192

Not here in NYC. The "rally" was organized by Neerdeen Kiswani's hate group Within Our Lifetime. lapucelle Jun 2024 #144

Well, eff them! electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #196

Oh, yah... "took over "The Trains" "... Several subway cars 🙄 Pffffffft * electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #198

JVP represents a very small portion of Jews LeftInTX Jun 2024 #150

Hey, they promised to kill them last though! TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #185

It's not exactly unimportant either. The term in certain (many) context is used to belittle women's ideas, and opinions. electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #195

Slandering (no evidence to support a single claim made) those protesting the mass killing of Palestinians RAB910 Jun 2024 #6

I Defend Nothing Nothing, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #8

Sir, they chanted "'Long Live the Intifada" RAB910 Jun 2024 #11

Facts: sarisataka Jun 2024 #42

I don't understand the whole "repeat back to the leader" thing AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #46

It reminded me of a church service sarisataka Jun 2024 #51

I first noticed it with the Occupy movement AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2024 #53

More from Torres at the above tweet. sheshe2 Jun 2024 #92

That originated with Occupy Wall Street. lapucelle Jun 2024 #136

YEs FACTS MATTER.. No one is Disputing That.. Good to Learn The FACTS... Cha Jun 2024 #85

Distinctions without a difference don't matter much. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #186

Watch any of the many videos posted here mcar Jun 2024 #19

Even Hamas supporters are protected by the First Amendment. tritsofme Jun 2024 #7

There Is That.... The Magistrate Jun 2024 #9

Who said they weren't? TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #64

Absolutely. Dr. Strange Jun 2024 #80

No matter how execrable we find their views, the people harumph Jun 2024 #10

I Did Not Say They've No Right To Demonstrate The Magistrate Jun 2024 #12

I see that was another poster who suggested Russian influence. Apologies. harumph Jun 2024 #13

Well, it's devolving: LeftInTX Jun 2024 #152

THANK GOD for the First Amendment ! stonecutter357 Jun 2024 #17

You Seem Afflicted With A Common Misapprehension, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #20

Just as you clearly have the right to slander people by falsely accusing them of supporting torture, rape and murder RAB910 Jun 2024 #24

'Long Live October 7!" The Magistrate Jun 2024 #32

They did not say that -- they said some other fucked up stuff, but that was not a chant obamanut2012 Jun 2024 #36

See post 85. sheshe2 Jun 2024 #95

"THEY" being 2 people who quickly put the banner away. AloeVera Jun 2024 #114

"They" were so ashamed of the professionally made banner they brought to the protest? sarisataka Jun 2024 #116

Did you notice anything else from the UN report? AloeVera Jun 2024 #118

Not everyone agrees on the war crimes of October 7 sarisataka Jun 2024 #121

They are caling the exhibit, not the attack, Zionist propaganda. AloeVera Jun 2024 #135

How a message and a viewpoint gets twisted around- good words sarisataka Jun 2024 #142

Let's see... AloeVera Jun 2024 #145

Listen To Yourself The Magistrate Jun 2024 #146

I did not say Hamas is not to blame. AloeVera Jun 2024 #165

Bloody-Minded Nonesense The Magistrate Jun 2024 #166

+1 betsuni Jun 2024 #171

Talk about bloody-minded nonsense. AloeVera Jun 2024 #173

None Of This Refutes A Thing Stated Above The Magistrate Jun 2024 #174

Is there anything less fruitful than... AloeVera Jun 2024 #177

Depends On What Fruit One Seeks, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #179

Crowds supporting Hamas is where you lost me. AloeVera Jun 2024 #181

Millions? The Magistrate Jun 2024 #183

+1 betsuni Jun 2024 #184

The pro-Hamas hate fest is even worse in Canada. lapucelle Jun 2024 #217

NOT referencing what's going on re: I/P - but gas lighting is a real tatic. electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #199

I was unclear and you reversed my cause-effect relationship sarisataka Jun 2024 #149

Here's The Basic Argument, In Plain English The Magistrate Jun 2024 #155

No, I understood. AloeVera Jun 2024 #158

I find myself in unusual company sarisataka Jun 2024 #159

Yes same as I rarely agree with her, must have pissed off her other buds in the Squad..at least Ilhan Omar/Rashida Tlaib EX500rider Jun 2024 #160

She's right anti-semitism has no place... AloeVera Jun 2024 #164

IMO Jew haters will hate Jews regardless sarisataka Jun 2024 #167

Honest question. AloeVera Jun 2024 #170

I do believe that is possible, in fact I still believe a majority sarisataka Jun 2024 #175

Thank you. AloeVera Jun 2024 #182

It does "sound awful" to give the benefit of the doubt to anti-Semites, lapucelle Jun 2024 #219

"I see it as more akin to holding a Pearl Harbor commemoration in the still burning ruins of Hiroshima." thucythucy Jun 2024 #180

Those who want to see, will. AloeVera Jun 2024 #222

What an utterly obscene proposition! Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #224

All your arguments about the Nova memorial thucythucy Jun 2024 #225

The analogy makes no sense. It's a flawed attempt to justify a disgusting pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic demonstration. N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #223

By your logic, I would be excused if I were to deny the protesting thugs access to their places of assembly Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #147

Especially since most hostages haven't been returned, and the physical, and emotional... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #201

"Quick look over here!" lapucelle Jun 2024 #162

To begin with, you're linking to a draft report. lapucelle Jun 2024 #212

Miloon Kothari is a member of the 3 person panel. lapucelle Jun 2024 #213

US Department of State press release on the Council of Inquiry. lapucelle Jun 2024 #214

The report cites war crimes by BOTH Israel's fighters, West Bank settlers, and certain Palestinian groups, including... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #200

That's not true. They carried the banner from Union Square to Wall Street. lapucelle Jun 2024 #139

They have the right to do all that....AND we have the right to call it disgusting, and hideous. electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #202

Yes, but for *anyone* to claim that it was "two people who were ashamed and put the banner away" lapucelle Jun 2024 #215

"That wasn't a chant. That was a professionally made 10 foot long banner lapucelle Jun 2024 #163

Do you have actual evidence to support that claim??? RAB910 Jun 2024 #40

Leader Schumer read it into the Congressional Record. lapucelle Jun 2024 #140

Here: LeftInTX Jun 2024 #154

Hamas considers anyone who is not Hamas to be an infidel and to be put to the sword GoneOffShore Jun 2024 #60

Ummmm sheshe2 Jun 2024 #94

Exactly! We as American Citizens have a Right to Condemn Cha Jun 2024 #87

100% correct. nt mcar Jun 2024 #18

you've posited here that any demonstrator in New York supports Hamas bigtree Jun 2024 #23

Not Worth Further Reply The Magistrate Jun 2024 #27

words matter bigtree Jun 2024 #29

"Some nebulous enemy that you perceive in New York..." lapucelle Jun 2024 #157

I can't help but think this is all related to the coming election. 58Sunliner Jun 2024 #25

And I can't help but think this is abt the war crimes Israel is committing. AloeVera Jun 2024 #71

I mean the original attack by Hamas in October. Hamas is a terrorist org. 58Sunliner Jun 2024 #75

How do the displays of Hezbollah flag and blocking the enrance to the Nova massacre exhibit signify Beastly Boy Jun 2024 #123

I see the lies and propaganda are alive and well. canuckledragger Jun 2024 #26

That's A Well-Turned Phrase, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #30

So it's ok for people to protest as long as you agree with them? flying_wahini Jun 2024 #28

Where Did I Say They'd No Right To Demonstrate? The Magistrate Jun 2024 #31

Take it up with the ACLU. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2024 #33

They Have Some Privilege Of Clergy, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #37

So, screw the Constitution because in your H.O. it looks like a Russian op? TeamProg Jun 2024 #49

The OP has abridged the Constitution in what way? TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #65

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #67

The OP has no such power and also enjoys free expression. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #74

You'll not get a response from that one revmclaren Jun 2024 #103

Whew! Exhausting. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #132

Yes "Truth" Does, TeamProg.. and The Magistrate's OP is Dead ON. Cha Jun 2024 #89

You won't be getting a reply sarisataka Jun 2024 #91

Long Live DEMOCRACY!💙💙💙 Cha Jun 2024 #93

They chose poorly.... revmclaren Jun 2024 #104

💙💙💙 Cha Jun 2024 #108

I remember that from a long time ago on DU, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #119

History was not kind Behind the Aegis Jun 2024 #99

History is yet to be written. AloeVera Jun 2024 #117

I think you missed the point of the post, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #122

I know. AloeVera Jun 2024 #124

He/she may come back after a review, there wasn't Posting Privileges Revoked issued, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #127

I see. AloeVera Jun 2024 #130

LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #120

🤣😂 Ha! Perfect! Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #133

Thank goodness for that. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #134

What does any of this have to do with anything? TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #86

It's their right, but we have the right to complain! LeftInTX Jun 2024 #156

Oh, i remember Skoke, and Westboro Baptist Church... 1A, and we can say disgustng electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #203

Hamas would not exist if Israel rainy Jun 2024 #38

And On That Sterling Comedic Note, I Must Depart To Attend Household Chores The Magistrate Jun 2024 #41

this would have played better if you hadn't made a broadside smear of 'Demonstrators in New York' bigtree Jun 2024 #47

Do you have any links to support your claim that the NYC protests have been "mostly peaceful" lapucelle Jun 2024 #141

How do you say "Run away!" in faux legalese? My four year old TeamProg Jun 2024 #56

Hey, Man: A Panda Eats, Shoots, And Leaves The Magistrate Jun 2024 #143

Which legitimate leaders are those? Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. tritsofme Jun 2024 #43

I wonder if that is true... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #44

I don't think you are aware of Hamas goal if you believe sarisataka Jun 2024 #45

I absolutely agree with you... OneGrassRoot Jun 2024 #62

Bullshit. The terrorism was flowing quite well when TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #76

"needs to respect legitimate Palestinian leaders," Like who exactly? EX500rider Jun 2024 #105

Woah... That's screwy! And something I didn't know (his "thesis" and books) electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #204

The Humorous Thing About The Fella's Writings, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2024 #207

Hmmm... More history to look at electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #208

I Shall Remember, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2024 #221

Oooops dbl post electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #205

What legitimate Palestinian leaders is Israel refusing to recognize? yardwork Jun 2024 #138

Genocide is the new Establishment. Us vs. Them. betsuni Jun 2024 #50

100 percent true and factual. Great job! jimfields33 Jun 2024 #52

Glad your thread has withstood the test of time. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #54

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #55

You would be completely wrong, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #58

... William769 Jun 2024 #96

You have been here since 2011 sarisataka Jun 2024 #59

Is this satire? leftstreet Jun 2024 #57

I think some of them do support Hamas, TBF Jun 2024 #61

I just want to take another opportunity to say, since I don't normally jump into these threads bigtree Jun 2024 #63

The US has enough to worry about without this. live love laugh Jun 2024 #197

A flag tells who a person is sarisataka Jun 2024 #69

Great thread! Mosby Jun 2024 #88

Sure Buddy - and the Americans who opposed the war in Vietnam were supporting the Viet Cong, etc. OutNow Jun 2024 #109

So this didn't happen? EllieBC Jun 2024 #125

This one makes me puke. TheKentuckian Jun 2024 #194

Heh, no kidding!* Yikes! electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #209

WTF...Dude is advocating genocide while simultanously protesting genocide. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #210

The pro-Hamas crowd is acting more like the KKK if you ask me. LeftInTX Jun 2024 #153

Well, Jane Fonda did go to Hanoi and let herself be photographed on a Viet Cong AA gun. PeaceWave Jun 2024 #189

Yep, and while I disagreed with her, I did respect her right to protest as much as I found it MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #193

But did she demonstrate outside a memorial or exhibit thucythucy Jun 2024 #216

Years later, in her memoir, she wrote madaboutharry Jun 2024 #227

When we marched against the War edhopper Jun 2024 #226

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #115

Vote for Georgia Latimer if you can. RandySF Jun 2024 #126

TY! Cha Jun 2024 #129

Apparently, saying protests are becoming more pro-Hamas than about Gaza's people betsuni Jun 2024 #131

Oh brother. nt KPN Jun 2024 #151

Kicking to keep this important post trending. revmclaren Jun 2024 #172

Bump lapucelle Jun 2024 #218

Kick. revmclaren Jun 2024 #220