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In reply to the discussion: Demonstrations In New York Make Several Things Clear [View all]AloeVera
(2,626 posts)When a call to acknowledge clear-eyed, fact-based reasons to question motives and catastrophic consequences aka accountability, is called apologia and blame-shifting. While at the same time shifting the blame for the current orgy of slaughter and destruction on the leaders of those being slaughtered in real-time, rather than those willfully doing the slaughtering. Which, by the way, are made possible by committing an orgy of war crimes and crimes against humanity. But please, do ignore the findings of a Commission of independendent experts.
When repeated calls to end the slaughter are characterized as wanting more dead civilians, while ignoring the fact that it is Israel who ensures there actually are more dead civilians.
The real brutal fact of the matter is, whether "allowed" to happen and then horrified by the enormity and seeking to defend as well as save face, reassert toxic dominance and exact revenge - or not - October 7th was and still is being used to carry-out long-sought goals of eliminating the Palestinian Problem. At this point, it would be very hard work for anyone to deny that brutal conclusion.
Continuing with brutal facts of the matter, none of this would have happened without the ethnic cleansing, denial of right of return, brutal occupation and gross injustices against Palestinians since Israel's founding on their lands. None of it will stop until those things are even acknowledged, let alone addressed. Which by the looks of it - when even industrial-scale slaughter and war crimes are not enough to convince staunch Israel supporters to advocate for stopping it - is not likely to ever happen. Palestinian lives, losses and grievances don't much factor into support for "Israel has a right to exist" and "Israel has a right to defend itself".
It's all bloody-minded nonsense, though there are other ways to describe it too.
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