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In reply to the discussion: 11 Polls this week, Biden-Trump. Trump's lead appears to be gone: [View all]democrattotheend
(12,006 posts)He had a 7.2 point lead in the national polling averages in 2020, won the actual national popular vote by 4.5 points, and barely won the election with 44,000 votes in the closest states. And the electoral math has gotten worse for us since the 2020 census. I don't think he (or any Democrat) has a great shot without at least a 5 point lead in the national polls, and a stronger job approval rating than he has now. A big part of the reason the debate has been so disastrous (besides the MSM exaggerating how bad he actually was and elected Democrats making it worse with the public handwringing and calls to step aside) was because he already wasn't in great shape before the debate.
I don't know what Biden's campaign was thinking pushing to have this early debate and then a 3 month gap until the next debate. Obama was able to turn things around after his first debate with Romney in part by doing much better at the second debate, and because he wasn't in as bad shape before the debate. Plus he was only 51 and wasn't facing questions about his age and fitness for the job, so a bad debate didn't hurt him as much. But if Biden had scheduled another debate with Trump a week or two after the first one, people would probably be at least waiting to see how he did at the second debate before calling for his head.