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DFW

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67. This last happened in 1973 and 1974
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 06:35 AM
Jul 23

After the resignations in disgrace of (first) Nixon’s VP Spiro Agnew in 1973, and then again in 1974 when Nixon himself also had to resign in disgrace.

Nixon picked Gerry Ford, a popular, personable Congressman from Michigan. Ford was well-liked by members of both parties, and acceptable to Democrats. Then, when it was Ford’s turn, he picked Nelson Rockefeller, the popular New York governor, who was richer than anyone who could possibly try to bribe him, and also a hell of a personable guy as well. Like Ford, he knew how to build bridges, not burn them.

Today’s Republicans don’t build bridges. They don’t even burn them. They use strategically placed bombs that not only destroy the bridges, but the foundations they were built on, and for good measure, they leave toxic waste on the site so that any workers sent to rebuild them die of poisoning first.

Mike Johnson would not only deny Kamala Harris a Vice-President of her choosing. He would deny her any Vice-President at all, so as to make it impossible for her to be formally elected next January.

That Johnson would try to get away with this obvious ploy should come as no surprise to anyone. That Michael Moore should join him is just a sad indication of how out of touch with reality Moore is. I don’t think it’s because he needs money and has let himself be bought by the Republicans. I think he has just grown too lazy to consider the consequences of what he is advocating. But whatever his reason for this, what he is advocating coincides with the disastrous Republican goal of throwing the election to the House delegations and making Trump president. For that simple reason, he deserves to be ignored as slightly irritating background noise. He has lost his right to be welcome on Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel. Let him go do Fox and Frauds instead.

I've been saying that for years. MineralMan Jul 22 #1
And, it's been true for Cha Jul 22 #34
He's wrong. Happy Hoosier Jul 22 #2
Agree republianmushroom Jul 22 #7
+1. Biden is helping Harris as much as he can dalton99a Jul 22 #14
Exactly LiberalFighter Jul 22 #19
Yes she needs to focus on the campaign. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #26
Oh look -- Mike Johnson becaomes President if something happens to Harris obamanut2012 Jul 22 #3
Exactamundo!!! oasis Jul 22 #17
I don't think there is a role for the speaker... returnee Jul 22 #40
He also counts the votes on January 6, 2025 onandup Jul 22 #43
How many times must it be said? ibegurpard Jul 22 #4
Unlike other confirmations, a new VP requires a majority vote of the House and Senate combined. patphil Jul 22 #33
This last happened in 1973 and 1974 DFW Jul 23 #67
SO many of these fuckers that were once "avatars" of the left... harumph Jul 22 #5
It's really demoralizing: Moore, Taibbi, Chris Hedges... keep_left Jul 22 #32
He usually gets it right malaise Jul 22 #6
Sicko kicked off the health care debate... lame54 Jul 22 #8
I have my own copies of all his documentaries malaise Jul 22 #23
The Awful Truth... lame54 Jul 22 #24
The health care debate has always been an issue. Clinton admin. tried in its first two years, next betsuni Jul 22 #45
Disagree lame54 Jul 22 #59
There are some Democrats that believe it is important because of the Lichtman keys to the white house Renew Deal Jul 22 #9
Yup, especially since she kinda is the incumbent obamanut2012 Jul 22 #50
Republicans would make Trump VP Emile Jul 22 #10
They can't. lees1975 Jul 22 #11
Johnson resigns his speakership and they vote Trump Emile Jul 22 #12
Who gives a shit about him. He is soooo last century. nt DURHAM D Jul 22 #13
I'm sure he means well, but Harris doesn't need the distraction Bucky Jul 22 #15
Do young people today even know who this guy is or care? n/t tinymontgomery Jul 22 #16
He is brilliant and we should listen coffeenap Jul 22 #18
He needed to shut up 25 years ago SocialDemocrat61 Jul 22 #20
Suspect it will happen. Blue Full Moon Jul 22 #21
Totally illogical reasoning nt delisen Jul 22 #35
shut yer yap DemonGoddess Jul 22 #22
He's a sundial. Right whenever the sun is out and weather is clear. haele Jul 22 #25
His ego is so big..... as big as his waistline. flying_wahini Jul 22 #27
luckily MaineBlueBear Jul 22 #28
When was the last time Moore said anything even remotely useful? sop Jul 22 #29
I replied to one of his deranged tweets last night telling him to stfu and quit giving stupid advice. nt ImNotGod Jul 22 #30
He's been right before orthoclad Jul 22 #31
So he's your prophet now? GaYellowDawg Jul 22 #37
Don't put words in my mouth orthoclad Jul 22 #46
OK GaYellowDawg Jul 22 #47
Alan Lichtman said the same thing in early July. 2 Meow Momma Jul 22 #36
that idea is misguided, but Moore is seriously hyping Harris and her campaign, so I don't see the cause for such outrage fishwax Jul 22 #38
MM is neither a young man nor on the cutting edge ChicagoRonin Jul 22 #39
He'd be right if the Republicans didn't block Harris's VP pick. Unfortunately they won't, so there's no point. OnDoutside Jul 22 #41
Agreed PhilosopherKing Jul 22 #48
Right...it also putts weasel johnson that much closer to the WH....no absolutely not! PortTack Jul 22 #53
Weasel is such a good use of the word, to accurately describe Johnson ! OnDoutside Jul 23 #64
An argument can be made for that. So, no, I won't be excoriating Michael Moore over it. Goodheart Jul 22 #42
he's getting that from Allan Lichtman (Keys to the White House guy) ecstatic Jul 22 #44
I don't really think he is off the rails but circumstantially TheKentuckian Jul 22 #49
It might have to do with the historical advantage of an incumbent. Klarkashton Jul 22 #51
Except she too is an incumbent. Bev54 Jul 22 #52
I wonder if Moore would say that if he knew that it would make Mike Johnson one heartbeat away from the preisdency? DFW Jul 22 #54
He's not good with facts, gets carried away with emotion and "passion," revolutionary dreams. betsuni Jul 23 #66
I disagree epreic01 Jul 22 #55
Shut up, Moore. Joe's gonna do some stuff. Joinfortmill Jul 22 #56
Who's the only guy in worse shape than trump or steve bannon Tribetime Jul 22 #57
Biden's resignation would take her away from campaigning, which is what republicans want Galraedia Jul 22 #58
Thanks for all that.. I think the Ticket needs Cha Jul 23 #65
With an empty VP seat IbogaProject Jul 22 #60
He is being sthupid Captain Zero Jul 22 #61
Does he seriously expect Kamala . . . markpkessinger Jul 22 #62
He alternates from cycle to cycle BannonsLiver Jul 23 #63
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