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27. 2008, 2016, 2020, 2024 -- all the most progressive party platform in history.

Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:52 AM

Aug 2024

Nothing to do with populists. Usual Democratic policies that gain more support. ACA became popular and Americans stopped being so worried about government involvement in health care. In future there will be ACA with a public option, as there was in the House version passed in Obama's first two years.

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As a Bernie guy [View all] TheSocialDem Aug 2024 OP

This is a Biden ticket n/t emulatorloo Aug 2024 #1

Thank-you. JohnSJ Aug 2024 #89

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #103

This is not a Bernie ticket. Bev54 Aug 2024 #2

Agreed but... BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #42

This is part 2 of Joe Biden's effort to Save the Soul of America. He passed the torch during a terrific... Hekate Aug 2024 #3

He did. Biden was hugely progressive TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #4

Biden is a Democrat from birth, and his lifetime in the Senate taught him the Art of the Possible Hekate Aug 2024 #9

Then you know nothing about Kamala Harris obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #82

President Biden is a Democrat who knows how to get things done, lapucelle Aug 2024 #139

It is a democratic ticket and y'll can't quit trying to take ownership LizBeth Aug 2024 #5

lol who's "y'all " TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #6

Yup JI7 Aug 2024 #31

correct obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #84

The ticket should be appealing to Bernie people but it is a Democratic ticket. TomSlick Aug 2024 #7

Agreed! TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #8

I beg to differ. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #10

Ironic, the dismissive "identity politics" "I'm a woman, vote for me" thing. betsuni Aug 2024 #40

Exactly, betsuni. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #57

Yep LizBeth Aug 2024 #60

What? You don't understand the significance of he first woman president? LymphocyteLover Aug 2024 #211

Don't understand what you mean. betsuni Aug 2024 #217

And I didn't understand your comment that I replied to LymphocyteLover Aug 2024 #279

Belief that Democrats ignored the white working class and had no economic plans, only identity politics betsuni Aug 2024 #281

Oh OK, thanks. I don't disagree with any of that LymphocyteLover Aug 2024 #282

Love this photo! mcar Aug 2024 #67

💙 sheshe2 Aug 2024 #71

Today Biden is president. It's his administration. LakeArenal Aug 2024 #88

Perfect! LizBeth Aug 2024 #102

She will have her team (Tim will be in it, of course). Justice matters. Aug 2024 #251

Walz is his own candidate. He's different than any candidate to date. LakeArenal Aug 2024 #269

I think so too. And every VP should or does follow the Pres. Harris will implement her own. LizBeth Aug 2024 #272

Thank You..n/t asuhornets Aug 2024 #213

.... LexVegas Aug 2024 #11

... sheshe2 Aug 2024 #12

I bet you were one of the people losing it about people TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #13

IKR! Cha Aug 2024 #15

NO WAY.. As Others have posted on the Thread Cha Aug 2024 #14

What doubters...folks on this forum have been happy with the conduct of our candidates. And it is not Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #16

NOPE Skittles Aug 2024 #17

Not! oasis Aug 2024 #18

No. Not one bit. murielm99 Aug 2024 #19

No. KH: "We will continue to fight for affordable housing, affordable health care, affordable child care, paid leave." betsuni Aug 2024 #20

Amen Sister! Cha Aug 2024 #22

It's so annoying, which is obviously the point. We're supposed to get real mad. betsuni Aug 2024 #33

Yeah, didn't read the temperature of the Room! Cha Aug 2024 #35

Feels a bit like arguing the last primaries. LakeArenal Aug 2024 #110

This is the most progressive ticket of my lifetime TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #24

2008, 2016, 2020, 2024 -- all the most progressive party platform in history. betsuni Aug 2024 #27

Yeah, Pres Joe Biden and VP Harris are Progressives who GET IT DONE. Cha Aug 2024 #37

And, they are solid Democrats! mcar Aug 2024 #69

Yes Democrats who Make Super Important Progress! Cha Aug 2024 #104

LBJ/Humphrey and McGovern/Shriver Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #181

Even here people just have to put a man in the spotlight edisdead Aug 2024 #21

Lmao you're trying way too hard to find sexism TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #23

no Skittles Aug 2024 #26

You're the one who tried to take it away from VP Harris and it's Cha Aug 2024 #32

No I'm not. edisdead Aug 2024 #54

Maybe you just ignore it too easily. LizBeth Aug 2024 #62

Lmao, keep digging mcar Aug 2024 #70

This is sexism -- it is a Harris ticket, not Bernie ticket obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #85

Not all that hard Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #182

Right? Have to work really hard not to see. Hand in the face to shut up and if LizBeth Aug 2024 #219

it's a......load of BS Skittles Aug 2024 #25

, Mahalo! Cha Aug 2024 #28

Has he acknowledge Harris stands with working class and not just the old white men like Biden LizBeth Aug 2024 #61

No it's not JI7 Aug 2024 #29

and any who fail to recognize the close relations between a Bernie ticket and a Biden ticket are elleng Aug 2024 #30

Who are you calling "Foolish".?. This is VP Harris' and Gov Walz' "TICKET". Cha Aug 2024 #34

'And finally Dems are embracing common sense,' elleng Aug 2024 #36

No Dems have had it All Along! Too bad you had to go for Cha Aug 2024 #38

Sorry, personal insult not intended, elleng Aug 2024 #39

So? maybe we just don't Cha Aug 2024 #41

Dems have always had common sense. edisdead Aug 2024 #150

What exactly is the Bernie ticket? betsuni Aug 2024 #43

Haven't you heard? All this and more can magically come to life "with the stroke of a pen." Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #53

Or the magic bully pulpit. betsuni Aug 2024 #120

...something...something...The Establishment! sheshe2 Aug 2024 #59

LOL! I saw that, too. The usual BS, gaslighting and buzz-words. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #68

Ah, yes, oligarch. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #72

"Status quo" too. Thankfully the buzz-words are disappearing. But "establishment" as an insult lasts forever. betsuni Aug 2024 #123

And "rigged". And sadly, that's a word (and a lie) that continues to be used. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #261

None of that are even his ideas edisdead Aug 2024 #151

As if health care as a human right, not a privilege was a new idea -- Ted Kennedy said exactly that since the '70s betsuni Aug 2024 #157

Preach. Teach. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #215

Ted Kennedy spent most of his Senate career Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #186

Better yet, what has he DONE to accomplish any of it? Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #185

And policy plans have to work to accomplish progress, not just be slogans. betsuni Aug 2024 #214

Yes LiberaBlueDem Aug 2024 #44

What do you mean? I have yet to see the man do anything yet and we have been LizBeth Aug 2024 #63

IKR? sheshe2 Aug 2024 #73

It just reminds me so much of men are the protectors. They do not do shit... LizBeth Aug 2024 #74

LIE Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #187

Bernie has been a real leader LiberaBlueDem Aug 2024 #212

No. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #216

Ha hahahaha, you have to work real hard ignoring all the information being provided for you LizBeth Aug 2024 #220

No, seriously LiberaBlueDem Aug 2024 #231

No seriously, he would not and the people have spoken two runs. Seriously. LizBeth Aug 2024 #236

We Dems are Happy because of Pres Joe Biden's Cha Aug 2024 #45

Yes. Unapologetically advocate for heartfelt values. pat_k Aug 2024 #46

"No more triangulating that which we perceive as 'doable.'" betsuni Aug 2024 #47

"Triangulating" ... there's yet another popular anti-Democratic party buzzword. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #117

Coined by Bill Clinton IIRC scipan Aug 2024 #133

I don't know... But it's meaning today is clear. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #136

"In the end, as their representatives in Washington should have known all along, even those voters betsuni Aug 2024 #166

Exactly! Ninga Aug 2024 #277

We can talk about our values and goals. pat_k Aug 2024 #145

Bullshit, if you remember 2016 that was a HUGE issue in the campaign and many many many of us LizBeth Aug 2024 #161

Democrats have a generations-long record of building the will to achieve big goals. lapucelle Aug 2024 #140

What ahistorical silliness Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #188

It IS great to see the Democratic party coalescing around a very progressive future! Think. Again. Aug 2024 #48

Well said. This is exactly my sentiment in this post TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #148

Obama started it with ACA and has been step by step to get to this point. We GOT here because of LizBeth Aug 2024 #163

You seemed to have misunderstood my post... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #164

I did not misunderstand, you totally missed my counter. LizBeth Aug 2024 #221

I believe you're right, to me, your counter seems completely unrelated to my post. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #224

Yes, I get that you think it does. LizBeth Aug 2024 #228

No, LBJ started it with Medicare/Medicaid Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #190

Yes... you are right. Thank you for the reminder. The more posting in this thread, LizBeth Aug 2024 #229

B...S...! Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #173

You've added quite a bit of your own thoughts into my posts... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #174

I know how to decipher passive aggressive ambiguity. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #178

Wow. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #191

Yeah. I know. Right? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #218

Good grief Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #189

Just my impressions from being a lifelong Democrat. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #192

Not at all. Passages Aug 2024 #49

It's not a moderate ticket! Emile Aug 2024 #50

That's for sure! Think. Again. Aug 2024 #51

Please. 🙄 No it's not. It's quite the insult to use phrases like * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #52

Sanders has yet to do anything and here he is getting credit for Biden adm, Harris/Walz ticket. LizBeth Aug 2024 #64

Well, that's sort of his career in a nutshell Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #184

Isn't it though... I mean. !!! Right? Geez. Lol LizBeth Aug 2024 #230

Purity test: compromise and incrementalism is immoral. But that's how government works. betsuni Aug 2024 #128

That's not how campaigning needs to work. TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #149

Nobody is campaigning on compromise. betsuni Aug 2024 #154

Genuinely disagree, don't campaign on TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #155

That campaign goal, got him votes.. TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #156

Who was anticipating Republican actions? Republicans are a radical anti-bipartisan 100% obstructionist party. betsuni Aug 2024 #159

Build the wall and Mexico will pay. Yes, we have seen it. No I do not want that politician. LizBeth Aug 2024 #162

I am NOT a Bernie guy. Never was, never will be. I am proud to be a DEMOCRAT! elocs Aug 2024 #55

And when "campaigning" for Harris called Dems out saying we historically LizBeth Aug 2024 #65

That was infuriating! Why would Bernie insult Democrats with such an outrageous lie? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #76

Right and worse was people defending that as campaigning for Harris. LizBeth Aug 2024 #80

The foundation of the ideology is that Democrats turned their backs on unions and the working class betsuni Aug 2024 #131

I was a delegate to the 2016 National Convention and saw first-hand what happened in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #108

Sing it brother.... you betcha. LizBeth Aug 2024 #112

Well, this certainly explains a lot. The disrespect for John Lewis, Elijah Cummings & Stacy Abrams * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #116

The Clinton delegates knew that these stunts were coming and that Sanders refused to stop these stunts LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #119

Never forget. So to say today is because of Sanders can well be seen as salt in the wound. LizBeth Aug 2024 #122

The fart-in planned for the convention! betsuni Aug 2024 #158

It was well known that many of the bro contingent Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #193

Yes and all the while we were and are still gaslighted because we clearly saw LizBeth Aug 2024 #222

THANK YOU Skittles Aug 2024 #146

Sooo predictable Doc Sportello Aug 2024 #56

Because it wasn't over Sanders Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #194

OMG you used the Bernie word. Very brave. Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #58

That's not what the OP said, though. yardwork Aug 2024 #77

You can't spell progressive without progress. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #244

The OP said it was a "Bernie TICKET" which is not Cha Aug 2024 #109

It's a Harris-Walz ticket mcar Aug 2024 #66

Why do people keep doing this? This isn't the first "let's-give-Bernie-credit" sentiment * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #75

Ya, I do not stay quiet with unfairness like this. I will always speak up. LizBeth Aug 2024 #83

I personally think 16 was a shit show and I don't want to hear anything about that time. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #95

I have a few guesses as to why they are doing this mcar Aug 2024 #101

It smells awfully cultish, if you ask me. Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #195

Yes, I have seen the similarity for years. White and male, and protecting status. LizBeth Aug 2024 #223

Well, he did, but not in the way his supporters think LongtimeAZDem Aug 2024 #99

Well as a Hillary woman... AkFemDem Aug 2024 #78

It's what Bernie could have been kcr Aug 2024 #79

Interesting analysis. They have unrealized expectations and hopes that are now manifesting themselves in ways * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #94

Like attracts like Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #197

Oh--and could have been? Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #199

This is not a Bernie ticket -- really? You say that? It is a Biden-Harris ticket obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #81

Actually Pelosi is who accomplished all this thru the House with her brilliance and LizBeth Aug 2024 #86

Yep. orange jar Aug 2024 #100

uhhhh nope! DemonGoddess Aug 2024 #87

Please, folks . . . . markpkessinger Aug 2024 #90

I would ask the OP to self delete then obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #91

You are free to make that request if you wish . . . markpkessinger Aug 2024 #93

That seems unlikely to happen. It's a good thought though. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #97

Bernie has nothing to do with our election this year. Give Kamala and Waltz the credit. They deserve it. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #96

I hardly think it is necessary to see the OP as taking anything away from Kamala and Walz n/t markpkessinger Aug 2024 #98

LOL! Let's review... Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #107

I wanted to acknowledge how refreshing is it TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #152

How exactly is the Harris/Walz platform different from the Biden/Harris or previous platforms? betsuni Aug 2024 #168

While you may feel "refreshed" the words you choose to express it are insulting. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #170

And it is really short sighted and limited thinking to suggest this is all because of Sanders LizBeth Aug 2024 #172

Thank you. Passive aggressiveness, not fooling anybody. betsuni Aug 2024 #175

It's not our fault that you missed the other ones Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #200

Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with the current election ...it is all Harris and Waltz. They deserve the credit. Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #114

Literally saying they are campaigning as genuinely unapologetically TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #147

They're not the first Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #201

RIGHT!!!! Geez all love you people that actually do your own thinking and educate self on fact. LizBeth Aug 2024 #225

Ha, was thinking the same thing. I have a crush on Zoomie. betsuni Aug 2024 #252

Since it was just a week or so ago he got on camera to campaign for Harris said Dem historically LizBeth Aug 2024 #111

Indeed we DEMOCRATS are united. And we won't tolerate BS posts that attempt to steal credit * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #121

Thank you Oopsie for saying it so clearly and loudly. Yes. This is not a tough one LizBeth Aug 2024 #124

Please stop "both-sides"-ing this. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #118

Sing it sister, so now can we be done with this? Yet? Please! LizBeth Aug 2024 #125

Let's hope. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #127

This is an "in spite of Bernie" ticket LongtimeAZDem Aug 2024 #92

Good one. LakeArenal Aug 2024 #130

Now you've done it Sympthsical Aug 2024 #105

If I recall correctly MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2024 #106

Beware the pitfalls of starting internecine warfare. GreenWave Aug 2024 #113

Are you in the Green Party? I ask because of your name... Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #115

It's an FDR/JFK ticket. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #126

If I'd said this, would I still get the sexist criticism? TheSocialDem Aug 2024 #153

FDR, JFK, LBJ: liberal Democrats, not democratic socialists. Clinton, Obama, Biden, Harris are liberals betsuni Aug 2024 #167

How can it be sexist, we have had no female presidents. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #169

It's an FDR/LBJ ticket Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #205

JFK wanted peace. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #259

Naaaa JustAnotherGen Aug 2024 #129

+1 sheshe2 Aug 2024 #132

+1 obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #134

Yeah but LiberaBlueDem Aug 2024 #135

So, in 2012 and since has preached time and time again that it could be done LizBeth Aug 2024 #137

We've had the $15+ minimum wage and tuition-free community college and state university lapucelle Aug 2024 #141

Right... I am not going to sit back and allow the rewriting of history to accomodate an ego. LizBeth Aug 2024 #142

To be fair, I think the "rigged system" narrative originated with Sanders, lapucelle Aug 2024 #144

Absolutely. betsuni Aug 2024 #160

This is a Democratic ticket led by Kamala Harris. Our Party was in wonderful hands lapucelle Aug 2024 #138

Kinda sorta of maybe... with we gotta elect her now let me tell you what she will need LizBeth Aug 2024 #143

I made this JoseBalow Aug 2024 #165

There it is LongtimeAZDem Aug 2024 #171

Yep. The GOP calls *everything* radical. And if EVERYTHING is radical, then NONE of it is radical. Beartracks Aug 2024 #176

This is a mainstream center-left Democratic ticket. Bernie is a self-described socialist. Dems are not that. Deek1935 Aug 2024 #177

Great post! Thank you, Deek1935! 👍🍷 Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #179

Well said PatSeg Aug 2024 #260

LOL No, it's not a Bernie ticket Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #180

Thank goodness it's not a moderate ticket. Emile Aug 2024 #183

I just heard the same thing on Faux News. SalviaBlue Aug 2024 #196

There you go and Sanders grinnnnnsssss, for not doing shit. And this is why we have to schoo constantly on THIS LizBeth Aug 2024 #232

I just heard the Faux news reporter say the same thing on my MILs TV. SalviaBlue Aug 2024 #198

What are you doing watching Fox noise? Emile Aug 2024 #202

Wishing I could blow my brains out.... SalviaBlue Aug 2024 #203

LOL, you need to find a remote control. Emile Aug 2024 #204

It's called oppo research Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #206

LOL, smart people don't watch Fox! Emile Aug 2024 #207

You're watching propaganda for "valuable information"? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #209

You are the one buying and promoting, they just broadcasted what you are saying, lmao. LizBeth Aug 2024 #233

I don't even have cable. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #237

like that is the point..... LizBeth Aug 2024 #239

But I hear people who watch it, such as yourself, believe it is "invaluable information". Think. Again. Aug 2024 #241

I do not even have tv, let alone watching Fox news. What you talking about? LizBeth Aug 2024 #245

My mistake, I assumed since you knew what "just broadcast" by them... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #254

Harris/walz are the first presidential ticket wanting to legalize mj questionseverything Aug 2024 #208

Very progressive Emile Aug 2024 #210

It took a lot f states and Colorado and then Oregon taking the first steps to this point. LizBeth Aug 2024 #234

Takes time because Republicans and moderates dragging their feet. Emile Aug 2024 #256

And just getting the people on board, see it is not dire consequence as a matter of LizBeth Aug 2024 #265

I remember the masses of voters in the Democratic Emile Aug 2024 #267

In the Democratic party, that is not a nation as a whole backing public option LizBeth Aug 2024 #270

Well as I said earlier it's a matter of getting Republicans and MODERATES Emile Aug 2024 #273

Exactly. Democratic states and cities raising the minimum wage, legalizing marijuana, betsuni Aug 2024 #257

Exactly. So Sanders comes in 2016 and say now we want to go from A to T in a flash, LizBeth Aug 2024 #266

I love it!! nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 2024 #226

Post removed Post removed Aug 2024 #227

Right here, you said it. And we have fox promoting it and Sanders grinning. LizBeth Aug 2024 #235

It's clear you're attempting to spark division here, please stop. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #238

No, as a lifetime Democrat I can say the same giving an independent ALL the credit for our Democratic accomplishments, LizBeth Aug 2024 #240

Again, your response doesn't seem to have any connection to my post, or even the OP. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #242

You are exhausting. LizBeth Aug 2024 #246

My apologies, I am simply replying responding to your prompts. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #255

ya... but you gotta do some thinking in between the two instead of just reading then replying. LizBeth Aug 2024 #268

I'm sorry if my concise responses bother you? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #271

Clue in... your responses are not even in the ball park, hence the exhaustion. lol LizBeth Aug 2024 #274

I'm sorry you're exhausted, perhaps ignore me? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #276

It's very obvious. +1 Emile Aug 2024 #258

Omg... lol LizBeth Aug 2024 #275

I'll pass on the photo this go around...😉 sheshe2 Aug 2024 #247

lol, right. LizBeth Aug 2024 #248

Yes. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #249

Yep lol LizBeth Aug 2024 #250

For the record Omaha Steve Aug 2024 #243

That's nice. But what relevance does it have in this threaded discussion topic? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #263

Bernie walked so Harris could run, right? Self Esteem Aug 2024 #253

😲...🙄...🤢🤮 ---- 😂🤣🤪🤪 Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #262

😆😆😆😆😆 sheshe2 Aug 2024 #264

Three weeks of unity was too much pattyloutwo Aug 2024 #278

Nobody on DU is being "attacked". Who's being "attacked"? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #280