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2. Tech person here NOT on board with your vote-switching/elimination theory
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 09:03 AM
Feb 2025

(I have studied election fraud stuff for a while now)

Let me first clarify that for states that use a VVPAT type system (see verifiedvoting.org) I think machine fraud is unlikely, and if it occurs, does so ONLY with the help of human factors - like failing to do proper audits, or entering false votes for people who won't actually show up themselves. That is the WHOLE POINT of VVPAT. So we can probably rule out any VVPAT locations from your theory, unless they are so bright red that they could get away with manipulating the counts, knowing it would never be caught in an audit. Well if they are THAT bright red and NONE of those R officials have any ethics or spine to stop blatant fraud - then the problem for that district is not, and never was, Trump.

Now, KEY POINT: in my neighborhood - which is run of the mill, lean R, Philly suburb : I saw FAR more TSF signs this year than in either previous election. I was shocked. You may recall there was a pre-election story about an effort by TSF team to pay people to put up their signs. There was some analysis that asserted a fraudulent objective of this program was to identify and register voters - essentially to pay previously unregistered or unlikely voters to vote for Trump.

The numbers from my area aligned with what I saw in terms of signs. You always hear people say, "signs don't vote". I guess those folks didn't live through the period when "subliminal advertising" was a buzzword in the media. Signs don't vote; but in aggregate, they do have some influence. At the least, seeing a lot of signs in favor of an outrageous person can normalize that person and make it acceptable to even consider them. (Which in my view, is the first problem with Trump - how did anyone EVER see this guy as a reasonable candidate to vote for, for ANYTHING?)

Anyway, vote switching may have happened strategically in a few places - but to this tech person it is the riskiest, last-ditch, lowest opportunity way to manipulate an election. I'm sure it's in the back of their playbook somewhere. But voter suppression (see Palast) FAR outweighs it, as well as the open (and apparently zero consequences) fraud of literally buying votes.

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