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keep_left

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22. They've got a lower-tech version of that already...
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:33 AM
Mar 2025

...that's been on the market since at least the post-WWII era--they're called "F1 hybrid" seeds. F1 in genetics refers to the first generation of offspring. These seeds exhibit "hybrid vigor", meaning they tend to exhibit more robust growth and fitness. Hybridization also can be used to confer various highly-desired traits to the organism, e.g. disease resistance in tomato plants. The drawback: F1 seeds don't breed true, so that if you save seeds from this year's crop, next year's won't be the same. (They're not genetically stable, so you get back the parent plants plus some other recombinations).

Seed companies love F1 seeds because of this--you have to buy new ones when you run out because seed-saving doesn't work. They're also much cheaper to produce than GMO "terminator" seeds, though I didn't know those had never made it to market here. I guess the power of the farm lobby is strong enough in the USA. I wonder if they have been marketed elsewhere.

The alternative to F1 hybrids is the old-fashioned open-pollinated plant, often called an "heirloom" especially when it comes to tomatoes. They usually aren't as disease-resistant or robust (no hybrid vigor), but they have other desirable traits. Heirloom tomatoes are quite special and unique, for example. You can save seeds from heirloom plants, and they will breed true for many generations--however, unless you prevent cross-pollination, even heirloom plants will naturally hybridize through all the pollinators in the environment (e.g. bees/wasps, butterflies, hummingbirds).

Privatizers like Eloon hate "heirloom" seeds because most countries' patent laws (including ours) prohibit the patenting of open-pollinated or otherwise naturally-occurring plants. I wonder if Eloon is thinking about getting into the agriculture business. Or maybe he just can't help himself, like many end-stage capitalists: if we can't make big money from it, why not destroy it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_hybrid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosis

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People who have a brain decided to collect the seeds. louis-t Mar 2025 #1
True, it is destruction just for the sake of destruction PatSeg Mar 2025 #38
To speed the day when MAGA decides who gets what, including food. Kid Berwyn Mar 2025 #2
After the invasion of the Netherlands in May 1940 Turbineguy Mar 2025 #13
Agribusiness-X probably bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #3
Agree. It's likely because none of those seeds are proprietary "one and done" seeds. CincyDem Mar 2025 #6
Terminator seeds don't exist outside a few labs NickB79 Mar 2025 #9
Is that a "don't exist outside a lab" because the science didn't work or... CincyDem Mar 2025 #12
Public outcry scuttled it NickB79 Mar 2025 #15
Public outcry put the orange fraud fatty in the WH wolfie001 Mar 2025 #50
I think they were marketed to 3rd world countries MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #32
They've got a lower-tech version of that already... keep_left Mar 2025 #22
And also, markodochartaigh Mar 2025 #31
Thank you canetoad Mar 2025 #46
No problem, glad it was helpful. keep_left Mar 2025 #49
Profitization through theft. There I fixed it for you. I use Profitization instead of Privatization ... aggiesal Mar 2025 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Dotty Mar 2025 #4
Because MAGA is Russia. Sneederbunk Mar 2025 #5
Indeed! Russia wants to erase us. sagetea Mar 2025 #18
Was that part of the whole doomsday vault scenario? I know they also stored pharmaceuticals because I Vinca Mar 2025 #7
Because it's related to climate change Diraven Mar 2025 #8
It's part of a smart Government. Turbineguy Mar 2025 #10
Only the billionaires can control the food supply. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #11
Same reason he wants to control near-Earth orbit. Global oligarchy Maru Kitteh Mar 2025 #14
How often is the seed removed and new seed put in its place ? anybody ? republianmushroom Mar 2025 #16
Can't really answer that the way it was asked ... MiHale Mar 2025 #29
Thank you republianmushroom Mar 2025 #36
Because they are stupid and have no idea what the people Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #17
Musk does not want the government to feed anybody but him. dchill Mar 2025 #19
Shit. Just that. PS, time to find the stash of nonGMO seeds i missplaced... txwhitedove Mar 2025 #20
"Our food system is only as safe as our ability to respond to the next plant disease..." Wednesdays Mar 2025 #21
The Irish Famine was not all caused by potato blight but by the theft of agricultural products from Ireland Botany Mar 2025 #43
Maybe Elon plans to buy Monsanto and wants to eliminate possible competition. Martin68 Mar 2025 #23
Might not work out the way he thinks it will. bluesbassman Mar 2025 #24
If you add white supremacy + the belief that empathy is a weakness + the belief that taxes should never be raised on the Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #25
Because it has to do with the common good and science which helps people of this nation and the world Botany Mar 2025 #26
I have a degree in botany (no pun intended) Mountain Mule Mar 2025 #39
Me too as in having a degree in botany Botany Mar 2025 #40
... Solly Mack Mar 2025 #27
The lack of genetic diversity is what killed off a bunch of banana species JT45242 Mar 2025 #30
Because he is part of "enemy within" that wants to sow Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #33
Because he can? ShazzieB Mar 2025 #34
Musk intends to rule the world if he's allowed to. hadEnuf Mar 2025 #35
Ebenezer Trump..... SergeStorms Mar 2025 #37
A small suggestion. Probably silly to most people. Linda ladeewolf Mar 2025 #41
Because he is incredibly ignorant about anything outside of his world. TNNurse Mar 2025 #42
It bothered me highly. Figarosmom Mar 2025 #44
He wants to replace them with his own ubermensch seed Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2025 #45
they saw it's about genetic diversity PedroXimenez Mar 2025 #47
Elon is a moron Historic NY Mar 2025 #48
Send 'em all to the seed bank on Svalbard before Musk kills them. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #51
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