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16. It's probably time for people here to start accepting that this is likely true

Tue Sep 16, 2025, 03:42 PM

Sep 2025

I was all for healthy skepticism when it was goofy right wing sources, but if the BBC and New York Times are comfortable with the sourcing, people need to at least pay heed.

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Text messages between Kirk killer and roommate [View all] TheProle Sep 2025 OP

A couple of things come to mind here EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #1

What comes to mind to me is the fact that he's more worried about his "old man" finding out about the rifle hamsterjill Sep 2025 #56

That was what jumped out to me too MichMan Sep 2025 #60

Fair. I assume it was some sort of family heirloom. EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #93

Or just doesn't think that killing Kirk was all that big a deal. Igel Sep 2025 #95

Disassociation orangecrush Sep 2025 #101

Ok hannah Sep 2025 #2

I wonder whether it's real or forged. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #3

I would have expected to see more abbreviations and texting jargon from a 22 year old. mackdaddy Sep 2025 #51

It sounds like it came from a romance novel written by AI. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #62

My thought, too. Gore1FL Sep 2025 #77

It's very strange. yardwork Sep 2025 #113

We live in an age where deception is easy. GreenWave Sep 2025 #79

Talk to cops. Igel Sep 2025 #96

Yowza Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #4

It's crazy that smart, internet savvy young people were texting like this. still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #5

I believe it was Discorde. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #38

I think he messaged a group on Discord. The alleged texts to his partner are described as "text messages" still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #69

I dunno. One of my friends decided to use Whats App for campaign stuff because it was more secure than regular text. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #70

If this is real, It sounds to me like he was "in love" with the roommate and mad at Kirk CousinIT Sep 2025 #6

that's what has been going around for a few days... WarGamer Sep 2025 #10

That's the narrative that the regime is fishing for. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #40

Yeah. That's why I said "if" this is real. CousinIT Sep 2025 #43

the texts are listed in the official charging document filed in court Celerity Sep 2025 #122

"That's the narrative that the regime is fishing for." TheProle Sep 2025 #68

I don't have any influence over the investigation. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #85

This orangecrush Sep 2025 #102

How did he know they'd grabbed an old dude leftstreet Sep 2025 #7

It was all over cable news at the time n/t Shrek Sep 2025 #9

It's just weird leftstreet Sep 2025 #12

And why did he leave it behind in the first place? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #21

I don't know, my love leftstreet Sep 2025 #23

It don't add up, sweets! MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #45

HOW did he leave it behind? yardwork Sep 2025 #114

Some guesses FBaggins Sep 2025 #129

No way he had that gun in his pant leg when he was hopping off the roof. ZZenith Sep 2025 #132

He was still on the move not watching tv orangecrush Sep 2025 #103

He said Greg_In_SF Sep 2025 #64

How'd he know about them THEN interrogating a second suspect? still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #133

NYT Coverage (no paywall) TheProle Sep 2025 #8

I'm reading this canetoad Sep 2025 #11

The charging document indicates that they found a photo of the note n/t Shrek Sep 2025 #13

Thanks canetoad Sep 2025 #15

It's probably time for people here to start accepting that this is likely true Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #16

Totally agree canetoad Sep 2025 #17

All of our news media is suspect. They all bent the knee. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #22

Do not play tRump's game. He lies constantly to get people to not believe ANYTHING, not to believe his lies. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #86

And where are the BBC and NYT sourcing their information? Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #42

Lifted directly from the indictment Shrek Sep 2025 #46

I flipped through cable news... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #71

If anything MAGA related got to it first I'll wait, do t trust **ANY** of them for anything... uponit7771 Sep 2025 #80

I assumed it was true UNTIL I read this text exchange. yardwork Sep 2025 #115

That's what I think as well. BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #130

This guy is 22? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #14

Systematically to every single thing. The clothes, the gun, the motive, the planning, the relationship... still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #26

THANK YOU!!! n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #31

The person who etched the memes in those casings... OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #39

Apparently the etchings were just to frame Groypers Diraven Sep 2025 #55

Where have you heard that? OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #97

Not even a single typo Diraven Sep 2025 #53

I'll buy that for a dollar! Strelnikov_ Sep 2025 #78

Exactly. No internet parlance that would be evident in young Nixie Sep 2025 #126

(1) He really doesn't sound too smart texting like this and (2)... harumph Sep 2025 #18

I am guessing, but I think this is recollection induced by hypnosis. John1956PA Sep 2025 #20

Interesting theory Patton French Sep 2025 #33

If this was in a movie or TV show, no one would buy it. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #44

And with a nation full of... OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #98

I don't consider myself a true crime expert. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #99

This didn't come out of the Trump administration n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #100

Oh goodness, I was referring to... OneGrassRoot Sep 2025 #105

Thanks for the clarification. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #106

reads like AI crap BoRaGard Sep 2025 #19

Well, so much for Robinson being a Groyper Nick Fuentes acolyte. Jedi Guy Sep 2025 #24

I'd have no trouble believing that but I don't believe this text exchange. yardwork Sep 2025 #117

And the description of his recent past and politics by his mother? His relationship with his roommate? Jedi Guy Sep 2025 #121

You didn't read a word I said. yardwork Sep 2025 #123

The other thing is what has law enforcement threatened the parents with. BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #131

Very good points. yardwork Sep 2025 #134

This line: Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga. 2MuchNoise Sep 2025 #25

Yeah that is weird Diraven Sep 2025 #57

Almost like a script Strelnikov_ Sep 2025 #82

Just one of many weird things about the texts. yardwork Sep 2025 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse Sep 2025 #27

Can you be more specific? Shrek Sep 2025 #30

The roommate can easily dispute this if it Nanjeanne Sep 2025 #28

It would also be quite silly to include in the charging document TheProle Sep 2025 #29

They desperately want to bake in the "he wasn't a conservative" meme early. tinrobot Sep 2025 #91

He may have been given some incentive Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #47

I'm not sure that I have ever used the word "vehicle" for anything I have ever driven. " 1WorldHope Sep 2025 #32

That's just how the kids talk these days. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #48

What's so interesting about this exchange? Elessar Zappa Sep 2025 #34

"If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence." - Is this the way the chronically online young still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #50

It isn't even the way my nephew, born in 1988, texts. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #66

Honestly, it reads too florid for 80 YO novelists. ok_cpu Sep 2025 #73

It's not "atrocious". It's a new language, a radical offshoot of English. It has logic & usefulness all its own. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #87

Yeah, true. I meant, atrocious to oldheads, obvs. still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #88

All the kids use the future perfect Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #90

Not mine. Not hubby's niece in her 20's. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #109

So, respectfully, you're on multiple threads touting this "nothing to see here" perspective. still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #125

It came from the State of Utah, not Patel. I guess I'm not a Democrat unless I believe an Affidavit is fake?? LeftInTX Sep 2025 #127

Ok, got my answer, thanks still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #128

He doesn't text like my 22 year old daughter Buckeyeblue Sep 2025 #35

Doesn't text like any of my sons either Bettie Sep 2025 #76

Smells like bullshit... IrishAfricanAmerican Sep 2025 #36

Doesnt feel like text from a radical or insane person Johonny Sep 2025 #37

I'm not buying it. bamagal62 Sep 2025 #41

Basically, he was a Log Cabin Republican. nt taxi Sep 2025 #49

Doesn't use any text abbreviations Bluestocking Sep 2025 #52

idek i don't even know. WarGamer Sep 2025 #59

"E" for "exactly" Ursus Rex Sep 2025 #61

Bizarre. yardwork Sep 2025 #119

Predictive text is a thing (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #65

He just screwed over his roommate. He can be charged with not reporting this to the authorities. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 2025 #54

Reports were the roommate was cooperative from the jump TheProle Sep 2025 #58

The roommate... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #75

Affidavit of Probable Cause TheProle Sep 2025 #63

Better copy LeftInTX Sep 2025 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author TheFarseer Sep 2025 #67

Several people have run this through chat gpt Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2025 #72

I think it is a recreation of a vanished Snap Chat exchange. John1956PA Sep 2025 #92

The Affidavit (dated sep 12) says Discord and that they took pictures of it from the roommate's phone. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #108

Thanks for the info. The affidavit seems to prove that the transcript is authentic. John1956PA Sep 2025 #116

Agreed. Who fabricated it though and why? yardwork Sep 2025 #120

This seems odd Tadams01KC Sep 2025 #81

I trust none of these assholes. bluestarone Sep 2025 #83

I'll wait until there's some real investigative journalism. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #89

This is fishy as hell. Dave Bowman Sep 2025 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Nictuku Sep 2025 #94

Smells like bullshit to me. paleotn Sep 2025 #104

Lots of good points in this thread. I would add 2 more WSHazel Sep 2025 #112

This sounds like a complete fabrication orangecrush Sep 2025 #107

Poppycock think4yourself Sep 2025 #110

Amazing how EVERYTHING has to be researched and parsed to determine NoMoreRepugs Sep 2025 #111

Truth is the first casualty orangecrush Sep 2025 #124