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23. Correlation is not causation.

Mon Jun 1, 2026, 03:11 PM

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There's been a strong uptick in overt anti Jewish rhetoric over the past ten years.

A lot of other things have happened in the same timeframe and Israel's actions are only one of them.

Personally, my observation is that the same online propaganda that elected Trump in 2016 and gave Britain Brexit has been aimed at stirring up latent dislike of Jewish people.

The online communities consumed by young people, especially young men, promote a virulent kind of bigotry that encourages consumers to punch down (literally) at women, Jews, non-whites, gay people, liberals, and anyone else who is not drinking the incel koolaid.

The absolute worst response to increasingly frequent episodes of antisemitism is to blame it all on Israel.

It's reductionist, colonialist, and frankly embarrassing.

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I have seen "Elders of Zion" levels of antisemitism from the left [View all] edhopper Yesterday OP

For a point of education, AIPAC is a horrible lobby organization. J Street IMO is a good one. mucifer Yesterday #1

AIPAC is an organization whose job it is marybourg Yesterday #6

Yes. It should be illegal for foreign countries to lobby and buy politicians here JT45242 Yesterday #26

Putin and other billionaires are heavily influencing our elections. yardwork Yesterday #35

The leadership of Israel is awful and commits war crimes. Oneironaut 23 hrs ago #39

Yes edhopper Yesterday #8

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #9

aipac is a drop in the bucket. they arent evil, just conservative. mopinko Yesterday #13

Trying to make "AIPAC" and "centrist" into the new triggers of disgust anger and fear to divide Democrats. betsuni Yesterday #29

Lol SunImp 22 hrs ago #52

TY & Oh "establishment" is still making the rounds. Cha 20 hrs ago #56

Accusations they can't prove, name-calling, insults. And, as us always, THEY'RE the victims. BOO HOO betsuni 16 hrs ago #63

Accusations they can't prove SunImp 16 hrs ago #65

PACs giving donations to candidates is not corruption. Campaign finance reform is a top Democratic issue. betsuni 16 hrs ago #66

Then its an actual threat & not a conspiracy theory SunImp 16 hrs ago #68

It's a CT that the Democratic Party's a corrupt immoral centrist establishment elite controlled by AIPAC, betsuni 15 hrs ago #70

I'm not saying if it's true or not I'm just saying it's a valid concern & shouldn't be brushed off SunImp 15 hrs ago #71

I know.. Cha 16 hrs ago #67

So pulling the US into a disastrous war with Iran is 'small potatoes'? SamuelTheThird 23 hrs ago #40

that has almost zero to do w aipac, and mopinko 22 hrs ago #42

Oh really? SamuelTheThird 22 hrs ago #43

big deal. mopinko 22 hrs ago #45

lol you said 'almost zero' to do with it SamuelTheThird 22 hrs ago #47

just because they held a position doesnt mean they had power mopinko 22 hrs ago #49

But they've repeatedly demonstrated their power in DC, whom are you trying to kid here? SamuelTheThird 22 hrs ago #50

i'm done w u. mopinko 22 hrs ago #51

btw, the candidate they DID support was also a jew. mopinko Yesterday #20

As a feature of white supremacy, it's attractive to people of all political leanings unless they actively divest WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #2

There is anti-Semitism here, too. murielm99 Yesterday #3

There is NO defense for this horrible vitriol against Jews. hlthe2b Yesterday #4

Correlation is not causation. yardwork Yesterday #23

Every word of this FalloutShelter Yesterday #27

And that is SPECIFICALLY why I used the term "correlation." It is used as an excuse, but that, hlthe2b Yesterday #31

"episodes of antisemitism is to blame it all on Israel." Behind the Aegis Yesterday #32

Jewish space lasers? yardwork Yesterday #33

Don't forget the weather machine! Or the zoo of trained animals for this and that. Behind the Aegis Yesterday #34

Yet some believe no amount of criticism is appropriate toward Netanyahu or Israeli policies hlthe2b Yesterday #36

i saw that too. mopinko 22 hrs ago #44

They are usually the oens who pretend to be "friends" with Jews. Behind the Aegis 15 hrs ago #69

Agreed proud patriot 23 hrs ago #41

And attacking Democratic politicians who may or may not have mcar Yesterday #5

Many posts on social media The Wizard Yesterday #7

I have seen it on some forums, edhopper Yesterday #11

"Not here, but other social media"... appmanga Yesterday #10

I would edhopper Yesterday #12

You've "seen", but don't have any specific instances? appmanga 20 hrs ago #55

I don't have instances on DU edhopper 19 hrs ago #57

Once again, please share. (n/t) appmanga 18 hrs ago #59

I don't know the ethics of sharing someone's post edhopper 18 hrs ago #60

I've seen Bigfoot... appmanga 18 hrs ago #61

Okay edhopper 18 hrs ago #62

The left and right bend and meet at anti-Semitism. nt LexVegas Yesterday #14

there's plenty of it here. mopinko Yesterday #15

Agree some never address what Israel is up against Chautauquas Yesterday #17

a lot of what happens in the west bank is misreported. mopinko Yesterday #18

Sure, when you destroy crops, burn houses, attack people, block routes and they defend themselves and their property Eko 21 hrs ago #54

So criticizing aipac, netanyahu or being against what is happening in Gaza is antisemitic? Eko 21 hrs ago #53

Two things: PCIntern Yesterday #16

we can hope. mopinko Yesterday #19

I think there is legit criticism of PACs like AIPAC AZProgressive Yesterday #21

Yes edhopper Yesterday #25

I feel like that's an oversimplification Samael13 Yesterday #22

You'll have to point out edhopper Yesterday #24

u r, personally, wrong. mopinko 22 hrs ago #48

Including military aid? Redleg 16 hrs ago #64

Yes, I've said it before and I'll say it now. Joinfortmill Yesterday #28

You don't need to look elsewhere sarisataka Yesterday #30

Yeah the Israel lobby has no malign influence whatsoever... SamuelTheThird Yesterday #37

compared to red, white and blue american greedheads, mopinko 22 hrs ago #46

I have never seen "Elders of Zion" levels on DU. maxsolomon Yesterday #38

Big influence from Party of Socialism and Liberation LeftInTX 18 hrs ago #58