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LuvLoogie

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70. It's still fraud...

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:12 PM

Jan 2012

Are you saying he shouldn't have gone to jail because he stole from rich people bitten by their own greed? Steal from the mob; you're dead. Steal from your mom; karma's gonna get you. Is someone accusing Jobs of fraud or stealing?

Steve Jobs was driven to build the world's best personal computers. One could argue that he did that. He adapted to the conditions set up by Wall Street and legislators. He turned Apple around, when the tech high and mighty said he should just fold. While others were content to assemble components and slap a brand name on a box, Jobs drove ahead.

Everyone on this board posts from a machine made not in the USA. Perhaps you don't respect Apple's efforts to modernize/humanize its supply channel. Perhaps you think that Apple should unilaterally assemble all it's products in the US with union labor. Don't you think that's like Mitch McConnell saying that if Warren Buffet wants to pay more taxes he is free to do so?

Until we demand more from our representatives and support them for their efforts, then we are just full of shit. Buy American when you can, or just buy what's cheaper as some on this board have suggested. Steve Jobs is dead.

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Steve Jobs colluded with other tech co's to keep US employee compensation low [View all] brentspeak Jan 2012 OP

Just one more reason why I hate Apple and its products n/t Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #1

Jobs was certainly a well rounded scumbag tridim Jan 2012 #2

You're destroying an icon. undeterred Jan 2012 #3

My daughter was a pro-Apple products user (she's 20) BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #4

Jobs should have tried to convince other ceos to work for $1 a year. nt julian09 Jan 2012 #5

Not Excusing Apple, but most computers are made there we can do it Jan 2012 #8

it is once again the 'everyone does it... ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #15

No, it is more like "stop pretending Apple is the only one" emulatorloo Jan 2012 #23

Thank you. we can do it Jan 2012 #37

It is not about meeting good consumer price points.... WCGreen Jan 2012 #48

Yes, I agree emulatorloo Jan 2012 #66

+1 Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #54

FFS yourself give it a rest they ALL suck we can do it Jan 2012 #35

It reads more like Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #59

And Apple charges us 3 times the amount for the priviledge laundry_queen Jan 2012 #19

You've got to stop paying retail price emulatorloo Jan 2012 #29

they work better shanti Jan 2012 #44

ymmv is right laundry_queen Jan 2012 #50

"what they are able to do on it is limited" emulatorloo Jan 2012 #68

Oh, and... laundry_queen Jan 2012 #51

Please show me where you get that Toshiba products are made in china. juajen Jan 2012 #52

Well, I Google "Toshiba made in China" we can do it Jan 2012 #69

Let's step out of the noise of this thread for a while and talk about your daughter's needs emulatorloo Jan 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author brentspeak Jan 2012 #32

I can't recommend Toshiba laptops enough. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #38

It gets 5 stars everywhere I look BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #53

i hope she doesn't consider it shanti Jan 2012 #45

Are all tech billionaires huge douchebags? Initech Jan 2012 #6

Here, let me help... Neue Regel Jan 2012 #7

Can't argue with that. Initech Jan 2012 #10

Gates isn't a douchebag. At least not any more. tridim Jan 2012 #20

He gave us charter schols and turned the GOP against public education. Initech Jan 2012 #24

And he just called for the IRS to raise his tax rate tridim Jan 2012 #27

And billions to charityh Logical Jan 2012 #34

I don't think his intentions were bad. For many people, the public schools ecstatic Jan 2012 #64

Oh PLEASE we can do it Jan 2012 #39

It sure seems like it, douchebags and dropouts. newblewtoo Jan 2012 #22

And then there's Michael Dell who's synonymous with outsourcing. Initech Jan 2012 #25

Not to mention his overall Reaganite politics. HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #56

Yes. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #58

still people will line up around the block, waiting all nite for the store to open so leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #9

Watch out, the Apple fanboys will come after you. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #11

I like to think I'm a recovering Apple fanboy. Initech Jan 2012 #14

AppleBots are going to show up at your home in the middle of the night. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #40

Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Initech Jan 2012 #43

Okay, so I don't get it, and I know I'm probably a bit dense on this hyphenate Jan 2012 #12

Well, I have a little different perspective emulatorloo Jan 2012 #31

The MAC OS is limited, at best. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #41

lol. What is this, some kind of dick size contest? emulatorloo Jan 2012 #46

They have a cult following. People pay more for a cult. Logical Jan 2012 #36

You guys sound like Freepers... LuvLoogie Jan 2012 #13

And someone lost their job over a rich boy email exchange. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #16

This isn't about wages... LuvLoogie Jan 2012 #21

All workers should be free agents. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #42

It's hard to be a free agent LuvLoogie Jan 2012 #71

"Apple Derangement Syndrome" emulatorloo Jan 2012 #26

"Steve Jobs didn't write the trade laws" brentspeak Jan 2012 #33

Bernie broke the law... LuvLoogie Jan 2012 #49

PFFFFFFT. Bernie defrauded fellow rich guys. HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #57

It's still fraud... LuvLoogie Jan 2012 #70

If you want to advocate something effective, pick on the living bhikkhu Jan 2012 #17

This is an example of a broader problem associated with semi-monopolies. Democrats_win Jan 2012 #18

Rec? Well, at least you're not promoting a hatchet job on Obama! emulatorloo Jan 2012 #30

But he was a visionary!!11! progressoid Jan 2012 #47

I worked in a factory in the U.S. for 8 years Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #55

AWESOME variation on the "everybody's doin' it!" excuse! Now, NOBODY wants to work! Romulox Jan 2012 #62

I should have added a sarcasm emoticon Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #67

scum fucking Jobs. Whisp Jan 2012 #60

To iMasters GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #61

All you Apple haters are ridiculous, pretending as if Dems have an historical responsibility Romulox Jan 2012 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jan 2012 #65