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redqueen

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199. Yes, the situation in the ME is quite different. But I didn't conflate them, the writer did.

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:29 PM

Mar 2013

Remember the quote I posted? Her closing line?

Remember my criticism that she entirely ignored this aspect of the issue she's discussing?

What does it say to you that FEMEN's protests against porn and prostitution get no coverage?

All these things are running along a continuum of misogyny. The misogyny of the right is different than the misogyny of the left, but they are two sides of the same coin.

Maybe this tactic will help women in the ME. I support them in their efforts, but I don't delude myself into thinking that if I post a picture of my 'tits' on facebook, I'm somehow helping them.

And meanwhile, here on DU, we have men talking about how horrible 'puritans' here are, completely ignoring the issue, and all the different dynamics involved. Is it intentional? Is it disruptive?

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If women have to get their tits out to make a point, so be it. [View all] MattSh Mar 2013 OP

eye catching title...valid point Buffalo Bull Mar 2013 #1

Here's a little song in honor and support of Amina, for the Female Genital Zorra Mar 2013 #2

Cheers indeed ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #27

+100 Taverner Mar 2013 #179

cool video! AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #309

yeah. young women should always "get their tits out" to bring attention to their concerns elehhhhna Mar 2013 #3

where the fuk is seabeyond? I want her thoughts on this. elehhhhna Mar 2013 #4

Yeah, call in the reinforcements. More outrage needed, stat! cleanhippie Mar 2013 #98

She was delivered a fresh vacation by her stalkers Scootaloo Sep 2014 #602

What's wrong with tits? Wha's wrong to use them to emphasise the message? You DO get it why idwiyo Mar 2013 #100

it's exploitive in this society. elehhhhna Sep 2014 #603

Wow! How interesting from a feminist perspective. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2013 #5

men should brandish their penises in order to be taken seriously, also elehhhhna Mar 2013 #6

Sadly many of us do I work and am related to quite a few guys who can't make a point without Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #7

okay, that was funny elehhhhna Mar 2013 #8

You are kidding? Right? leftyladyfrommo Mar 2013 #15

Sadly only half kidding I have a couple people one a friend and the other a cousin Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #28

Oh No! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #21

To draw the correct parallel, it's "Whip their dicks out." MineralMan Mar 2013 #11

Yes, thank you. narnian60 Mar 2013 #131

Thank you. MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #279

Women are not prudes, and most could not care less about boobs, tits, or sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #535

Please note the last line in my signature line. MineralMan Mar 2013 #536

If I whipped put my penis fitman Mar 2013 #34

They should, but too many have small ones and they couldn't stand the comparisons, LOL. whathehell Mar 2013 #177

Men have been exposing the ol' cocker for protests since at least 1914. Kurovski Mar 2013 #306

this is like the 4th of these threads. always posted by a man. always, a man opposed to feminists seabeyond Mar 2013 #9

This is Tunisia, you know. randome Mar 2013 #19

like theres not a dozen more important things they could be doing "sticking their finger in the... bettyellen Mar 2013 #32

The entire point of a protest is to get press attention. randome Mar 2013 #64

yes. cause really, women must use their sexuality ALWAYS in order to be heard. but wait.... seabeyond Mar 2013 #66

There is plenty of non-snark conversation going on here. randome Mar 2013 #69

no, it is not irrelevant, mens behavior. when a man says, nudity is not a deal, then hubba hubba a seabeyond Mar 2013 #74

it's true, he's critiquing this protester slightly less crudely than if he were at at strip bar. bettyellen Mar 2013 #81

ya. and all the while declare how he RESPECTS the stripper so. exactly. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #85

And can anyone answer my question? randome Mar 2013 #89

She should be herself and be proud of it. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #92

First and foremost, yes. randome Mar 2013 #102

Absolutely a woman should be able to go naked for her own reasons. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #521

Of course if she was overweight, men would not oggle as much. randome Mar 2013 #523

This action was done by a Tunisian woman to protest iemitsu Mar 2013 #527

the problem mercuryblues Sep 2014 #601

Some good points, in my opinion. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #331

WTF does your daughter's naked breasts have to do with human rights in Tunisia? bettyellen Mar 2013 #109

Because women in general, I imagine, feel constrained by men to the point... randome Mar 2013 #114

so human rights issues boil down to walking around naked at home? thanks for proving this protest bettyellen Mar 2013 #120

What is an acceptable means of protest you think she should engage in? randome Mar 2013 #125

Your pointing and laughing is the first step down that road that leaves her covered up bettyellen Mar 2013 #134

WESTERN men may point and make titty jokes. randome Mar 2013 #193

Correction: to giving his daughter permission to walk around naked at home. Squinch Mar 2013 #269

Household nudity is not equivalent to child porn! randome Mar 2013 #274

I never said it was. Still, I bet the vast majority of posters Squinch Mar 2013 #275

My sphere of concern and responsibilities don't encompass everyone. randome Mar 2013 #276

But apparently they don't see it as being as "safe" as you do, because they have not taken you Squinch Mar 2013 #271

There is NO question in their minds of feeling safe with me, I assure you. randome Mar 2013 #272

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Divorced. Financially and emotionally, I am a single parent. randome Mar 2013 #348

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Good job in being insufferable and arrogant enough to presume that you know more about his family opiate69 Mar 2013 #356

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Yep.. You've never really been one for self-reflection... why start now? opiate69 Mar 2013 #368

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Your reaction is sick, that's for sure. Projecting much? idwiyo Mar 2013 #422

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I don't have to listen to stupid stuff like that. Because its degrading and very very stupid. idwiyo Mar 2013 #442

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I will keep saying that what you trying to imply is degrading and stupid. You stopped short of idwiyo Mar 2013 #463

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Your implication is absolutely clear. I did say you stopped short of calling him names. idwiyo Mar 2013 #478

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I am amazed that you are not even remotely disturbed that the first thought forming in your idwiyo Mar 2013 #490

BINGO. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #459

So the HOF warriors came out as a team to label a father who wants polly7 Mar 2013 #358

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You seem to have a HUGE problem with the truth. polly7 Mar 2013 #362

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You wouldn't know the meaning of the word. polly7 Mar 2013 #367

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You think something is disgusting that you know NOTHING about. polly7 Mar 2013 #380

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No, people aren't normally this cruel. You need to think about how you treat others. polly7 Mar 2013 #471

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You made it sick. It shows who you are, and says nothing about him. polly7 Mar 2013 #482

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It's becoming very reminiscent of another, thankfully, departed DUer.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #371

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No accusation... and no beating around the bush needed.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #381

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Many years have gone by since I took high school algebra... I still remember how to factor equations opiate69 Mar 2013 #397

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So.. the length of iverglas' absence has fuck-all to do with whether or not her tactics are still opiate69 Mar 2013 #413

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bullying, swarming, logical fallacys, misrepresenting posters`s posts.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #421

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Do you really think iverglas would give up all this? Her little court? Kurovski Apr 2013 #550

Fair point.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #557

All of which helps me refine and validate my choices as a parent. randome Mar 2013 #386

Please, do not EVER EVER EVER go anywhere near Canary Islands. You will scare the people idwiyo Mar 2013 #434

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Neither are his daughters walking around nude. polly7 Mar 2013 #439

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Dressing as one wants includes wearing nothing, or wearing whatever they hell they want. polly7 Mar 2013 #452

It doesn't bloody matter if he is nudist or not. What matters is that YOU think it's inappropriate. idwiyo Mar 2013 #456

it does matter if you are a father inviting your daughters to be naked JI7 Mar 2013 #464

What is creepy that so many people are programmed to think its not appropriate to be naked. idwiyo Mar 2013 #474

so why doesn't he get naked and invite some other family to get naked ? how about some guys JI7 Mar 2013 #479

WTF are you talking about? randome Mar 2013 #492

You should seriously think about what you have just said and implied. I am sorry for you that idwiyo Mar 2013 #494

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Don't change the subject, please. But nice try. Again, stop projecting. idwiyo Mar 2013 #480

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Purposefully misunderstand much? polly7 Mar 2013 #488

Thanks for the support. randome Mar 2013 #365

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Sorry you have an issue with nudity. randome Mar 2013 #375

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Right.. because nudity is bad, right?? opiate69 Mar 2013 #376

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Thousands (if not millions) of happy, well-adjusted naturalists would disagree.. but.. of course, opiate69 Mar 2013 #385

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Obviously I don't have to answer ANY questions. randome Mar 2013 #398

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I think they're probably well-adjusted girls who would be creeped out by you. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #407

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Clueless and vicious. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #417

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You said next, he'd be encouraging them to go around the block topless, did you not??? polly7 Mar 2013 #429

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Because that's what YOU'D do? polly7 Mar 2013 #438

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Maybe you need to be checked out then. CPS might be interested. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #455

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Why don't I encourage them to be nude in public? randome Mar 2013 #441

Not as wrong as your implication that he is an incestuous pederast. Bonobo Mar 2013 #447

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So would I. This is sick. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #454

Your daughters are lucky girls to have such a trusting relationship with their father. polly7 Mar 2013 #374

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Took him up on WHAT? polly7 Mar 2013 #383

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You used the word 'should'. randome Mar 2013 #388

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What if, what if! Yeah, I can see why you have to introduce bullshit to make it worse. polly7 Mar 2013 #394

"But it says a lot about what YOU think"... Bing-fucking-o. opiate69 Mar 2013 #399

Thank you. I nailed that one. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #403

Indeed you did.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #408

Wow.. went to make the kids dinner.. (and yes, everyone was clothed lmao) opiate69 Mar 2013 #502

LOL. I know! I went and had a shower and came back to see this. polly7 Mar 2013 #504

I would say, maybe there was some kind of epiphany? opiate69 Mar 2013 #508

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You have no idea what he said to them or in what context. polly7 Mar 2013 #406

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Yes I read them. polly7 Mar 2013 #415

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'Opinion' isn't making up horror stories to get children removed from a home. polly7 Mar 2013 #426

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Your opinion on something you know nothing about, lying about what he'll 'do' polly7 Mar 2013 #435

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A father that wants his daughters to have self-confidence and feel safe. polly7 Mar 2013 #446

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Nobody's trying to change your opinion. Just respond to your ugly allegations. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #457

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Of course not. You're not the one you're trying to label some kind of pervert polly7 Mar 2013 #468

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One who has a greater intellectual understanding of such things than you, apparently. randome Mar 2013 #451

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For one thing, they are adolescents. randome Mar 2013 #491

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It must have been some pretty messed-up musings if even bostonbean saw fit to delete them. Kurovski Apr 2013 #551

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I think you just found a literary device that can mimic the experience of pychosis. Kurovski Apr 2013 #555

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OMG! pacalo Apr 2013 #573

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I feel like I'm back on the mothership. pacalo Apr 2013 #575

You said he was sick. Bonobo Mar 2013 #473

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This is only a big deal to you. Not to me or my daughters. randome Mar 2013 #419

totally creepy, kind of reminds me of the Purity Balls JI7 Mar 2013 #344

There is a big difference between allowing nudity and encouraging it. randome Mar 2013 #346

still creepy , and covering up doesn't mean being ashamed of one's body JI7 Mar 2013 #352

I absolutely agree with that. randome Mar 2013 #357

Hope you would be ready for The DSS regarding what you told your daughter. Little Star Mar 2013 #340

No agency would ever override my parenting decisions. randome Mar 2013 #345

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I never said a discussion of nudity with my daughters was anything major. randome Mar 2013 #355

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You should probably understand that what is said that offends polly7 Mar 2013 #73

I think the obsessions of that group are unhealthy. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #96

It seems it's not "that group" with the unhealthy obsession. JTFrog Mar 2013 #130

How'd you like the response to your alert on my post? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #139

I didn't alert on your fucking post. JTFrog Mar 2013 #142

So defensive! EOTE Mar 2013 #190

GFY. JTFrog Mar 2013 #321

Thanks. GFY to you as well. EOTE Mar 2013 #329

How insulting. polly7 Sep 2014 #579

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Oh no! polly7 Sep 2014 #581

Why are you kicking up my old posts? JTFrog Sep 2014 #582

Why not? You told someone to GFY - insulting! polly7 Sep 2014 #584

No, where did I say pm's? Why are you making shit up and stirring the pot? JTFrog Sep 2014 #585

lol! polly7 Sep 2014 #587

I sincerely hope you feel better soon. n/t JTFrog Sep 2014 #588

I didn't harass you, I replied to your harassment. (No comment on the 'pm('s)?) polly7 Sep 2014 #589

I sincerely hope you feel better soon. n/t JTFrog Sep 2014 #590

I hope you are too! polly7 Sep 2014 #591

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Most of that makes no sense BainsBane Sep 2014 #595

Makes perfect sense for me! Sorry you can't accept being that unimportant to me (well, not really). polly7 Sep 2014 #596

I should be so lucky. BainsBane Sep 2014 #597

This post survived a jury.. X_Digger Sep 2014 #592

Now you're defending PPR'd trolls? BainsBane Sep 2014 #583

Now you're defending what you found so horrible earlier? polly7 Sep 2014 #586

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Holy necrothread and frivolous alert, Batman! NuclearDem Sep 2014 #599

What is with juror 3? BainsBane Sep 2014 #600

Juror #4 expresses my feelings perfectly. loudsue Mar 2013 #232

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The alerter is cranky from meta withdrawls. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #315

Well said. Succinct. n/t Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #154

Oh, Lord. It's the weekend again, isn't it? Squinch Mar 2013 #395

I'm stone cold sober. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #400

risking their lives for certain G_j Mar 2013 #115

I agree 100%. Not all nudity is about dirty minds, oppression, subjugation, sexism. loudsue Mar 2013 #220

what's your email address? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #283

it's to spur conversation and translate that into action. You drooling is NOT the desired outcome. bettyellen Mar 2013 #88

Some of us can deal with more than one viewpoint at a time. randome Mar 2013 #94

You make the crass assumption her protest is to solicit your many opinions on looking at breasts. bettyellen Mar 2013 #117

She's challenging the fundamentalists who think of her as property. randome Mar 2013 #121

tit jokes are "observations" now? LOL, you mock the nudity and then get self righteous defending it bettyellen Mar 2013 #128

Hi sea - Do you have your Third Wave Feminism = Third Wave Misogyny DURHAM D Mar 2013 #22

this? ya. this. it says it so well. seabeyond Mar 2013 #25

While we're about the business of shooting fish in a barrel... Kurovski Mar 2013 #322

The irony of that in relation to Femen is, Femen are clearly second wavers. stevenleser Mar 2013 #133

I am a real second waver and I am DURHAM D Mar 2013 #294

Those are some of the defining differences between second and third wave feminism. stevenleser Mar 2013 #310

I am what I have lived for 50 years as an adult. DURHAM D Mar 2013 #325

Rush Limbaugh can call himself a Democrat and has every right to do so. Its a free country. stevenleser Mar 2013 #332

There are no feminists on DU DURHAM D Mar 2013 #335

Now you are moving the goalposts and playing games. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #337

I didn't move anything. DURHAM D Mar 2013 #339

Yeah, if you can find someone to buy what you are trying to sell me, let me know. stevenleser Mar 2013 #354

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LOL. Ouch. Total body slam. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #485

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Feel better now? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #44

i was asked to come into this thread because a woman poster smells a rat. you have issue with that? seabeyond Mar 2013 #50

What. This other woman can't speak up for herself? MattSh Mar 2013 #60

it is clear what your intent was. i was pretty damn sure, you continually reinforce. little games, seabeyond Mar 2013 #65

That a stupid thing to say. MattSh Mar 2013 #80

I'm getting so sick of people who tar the word "feminism" by associating it Pab Sungenis Mar 2013 #184

I always thought it was all about equal rights, too.... MADem Mar 2013 #218

This reminds me of a joke I heard on "Cheers": SamReynolds Mar 2013 #519

Actually, the man and boy words are not equivalent CitizenPatriot Mar 2013 #224

Is there a clearer way to say this? I honestly don't know what the meaning or intent is. (nt) Kurovski Mar 2013 #347

Just sayin' Major Nikon Mar 2013 #148

Unnecessarily crude term and whathehell Mar 2013 #164

And yet you accuse the men of DU Pab Sungenis Mar 2013 #187

Yeah.. and of course... opiate69 Mar 2013 #198

SJW to the rescue! RetroLounge Mar 2013 #330

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I'm sure she does. MattSh Mar 2013 #58

ahhh, we get your one little post after your OP. and what is it? this. confirmation. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #61

Take it up with the author of the article, the source of the headline. MADem Mar 2013 #56

The group uses the term themselves (from a post down-thread) Roland99 Mar 2013 #68

Indeed. I don't understand the complaints that it's "DU's Fault" -- you'd MADem Mar 2013 #72

pffft...and go through all the work to actually read an article? Roland99 Mar 2013 #79

And yet dozens of misandrist rape threads that blame men, but never the women that raised them, are RC Mar 2013 #123

I don't think men here are opposed to feminists. Just some people on here and how they react The Straight Story Mar 2013 #167

which is more oppressive the liberation or the burka? Buffalo Bull Mar 2013 #239

Nicely put! randome Mar 2013 #243

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I appreciate that. Kurovski Mar 2013 #390

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well...goodness... Kurovski Mar 2013 #414

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Beautifully, Beautifully written.... kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #520

Thank you for this. Raine1967 Mar 2013 #522

Best post in DU, ever. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #524

So ANY sex positive feminist protest = false flag op? alp227 Mar 2013 #353

There comes a time when whatever needs to be said to make a point will be done. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #10

Two points, actually. randome Mar 2013 #14

I'm not afraid to add my two. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #16

so you ridicule them? I guess the protest was a mistake. bettyellen Mar 2013 #33

yes. ridicule. or snark. or crude jokes. yes, a perfect example how effective this seabeyond Mar 2013 #36

Yes, you were just being redundant, which in itself is a redundancy. Kurovski Mar 2013 #364

Not in the slightest. See my post below. randome Mar 2013 #38

"I would be lying if I didn't say I enjoy looking at her nude body" you just have to let everyone seabeyond Mar 2013 #43

I'm being honest. randome Mar 2013 #48

you reinforced the point i make by your own behavior and comments in this thread. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #53

. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #207

I suppose we should be grateful you didn't choose that picture MADem Mar 2013 #244

That would have been going too damn far. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #260

Yes, cruel and unusual, certainly!!! nt MADem Mar 2013 #266

oh please- the "two points" joke is totally a childish joke about their bodies. bettyellen Mar 2013 #46

I can make a joke about anything. randome Mar 2013 #51

and we here can comment on your juvenile reaction to breasts. bettyellen Mar 2013 #67

I'd prefer a dismissive chuckle for the childish jokes. randome Mar 2013 #71

you overestimate our interest in your preferences, LOL. Don't give a shit that you enjoy bettyellen Mar 2013 #75

Point me to any of your so called MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #280

Well... randome Mar 2013 #282

7th-grade vulgarity is rationalized by the man-child as satire LanternWaste Mar 2013 #76

I believe I've made some other points in this thread that rise a bit above that 7th grade level. randome Mar 2013 #83

thank you. this is perfectly said. i said what i had to in this thread, now the gigglin' men will seabeyond Mar 2013 #84

You have an awful lot of rage. SamReynolds Mar 2013 #518

yes, because the truth of the 7th grade mindset is too fucking sad to acknowledge.... bettyellen Mar 2013 #87

I wouldn't condemn anyone for proudly using their own body to advance any worthwhile cause. polly7 Mar 2013 #12

"brilliant" manipulation of the "lust of patriarchy" elehhhhna Mar 2013 #30

REALLY!! nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #45

Get their tits out? Really. You couldn't come up MineralMan Mar 2013 #13

It is the title of the article at the link n/t maddezmom Mar 2013 #17

OK. Exact titles are not required in GD. MineralMan Mar 2013 #20

Are exact titles forbidden in GD? Occulus Mar 2013 #530

Some actual titles would get hidden by a jury. MineralMan Mar 2013 #531

It's the title of the article. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #18

It got my attention. randome Mar 2013 #24

OK. It got miine, too. MineralMan Mar 2013 #26

Always. randome Mar 2013 #28

And the young woman in the article is confronting the source of sexism, while you continue to worry Kurovski Mar 2013 #311

She did not post here. MineralMan Mar 2013 #319

And thank you for letting me know where your interest lies. Kurovski Mar 2013 #326

yes. to make a joke. wow. that was effective. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #37

You're mistaken... TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #41

Its a trap!!! ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #23

It's the message being spread, not the frickin' title of the article, people!! Roland99 Mar 2013 #31

One of my daughters resists wearing a bra. randome Mar 2013 #35

Interesting how geography affects so many things Roland99 Mar 2013 #40

right. doing exactly what men expect of women. to pornify them. and when they do this in front of seabeyond Mar 2013 #42

You realize this took place in Tunisia, right? Roland99 Mar 2013 #47

this seems to be of significance to you men. ya, ok. i do. so. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #57

Do you not understand the cultural climate there? Roland99 Mar 2013 #63

Bingo. kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #111

I know, right? Roland99 Mar 2013 #113

Bingo again!! n/t kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #116

BTW, thanks for stereotyping me Roland99 Mar 2013 #118

This young girl is risking her LIFE. She knows it. She knows it is no world for her daughters to loudsue Mar 2013 #39

Perfect. +1000. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #52

except the burning of the bra never really happened. it was a ploy used by the other side to cause seabeyond Mar 2013 #59

Not true. I was in Washington DC watching it happen. loudsue Mar 2013 #127

If seabeyond says it didn't happen UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #209

Got it. My bad. n/t loudsue Mar 2013 #227

neither do i and i support her form of messaging La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #140

I would never condemn her. But I worry about her. It seems the only way she can have an impact bettyellen Mar 2013 #145

oh yeah i worry too and i think she is immensely brave La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #161

Another related piece for discussion I posted earlier: Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #49

Her life and freedom are in danger for her daring to think and act independently Roland99 Mar 2013 #54

Great article. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #211

Amina Tyler's Femen supporters declare Topless Jihad Day after death-by-stoning threats for topless UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #55

I get sick of "moral" being defined as "prude".... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #62

I support Femen 110%... TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #70

Tits? lunatica Mar 2013 #77

and yet another person who can't be bothered to click a link and read a little. Roland99 Mar 2013 #82

The author lost me at tits. lunatica Mar 2013 #93

fine...only focus on the article's title then (the OP used the article's title...written by a woman) Roland99 Mar 2013 #106

Can you overcome yourself and your reactions ? Because it's important. Kurovski Mar 2013 #313

"He" is named Rhiannon Lucy..... MADem Mar 2013 #108

In that case I have even less respect for the author lunatica Mar 2013 #122

Then you despise the group, too. They used that term themselves Roland99 Mar 2013 #126

The word topless was used two times and it's from the same quote lunatica Mar 2013 #136

Take it up with "Rhiannon." MADem Mar 2013 #129

I already knew this story lunatica Mar 2013 #150

I am an old fart. I also am a multi-cultural one. MADem Mar 2013 #171

Well said, MADem. Those of us old enough to have fought for women's rights loudsue Mar 2013 #241

+1 redqueen Mar 2013 #132

I agree with this. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #149

It has offended me personally all my life lunatica Mar 2013 #155

It's using a well-known sexist phrase, to make a point muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #242

It's pretty personal to me. lunatica Mar 2013 #246

What a courageous woman - she should be an inspiration to progressives everywhere Politicub Mar 2013 #78

Looks like they hacked the Femen website UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #86

violence/rape/threats or porinified titty jokes. just depends the side the man wants to stand. seabeyond Mar 2013 #90

The exact reason why this group's message is a good one and an effective one. Roland99 Mar 2013 #99

Absolutely. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #103

why havent i seen you addressing it the last two weeks it has been cheered on du? or anyone else seabeyond Mar 2013 #105

Oh, I'm sorry I haven't read every thread on DU GD over the last two weeks Roland99 Mar 2013 #107

Some of us are sick of being attacked. Pab Sungenis Mar 2013 #197

Toxicity. Kurovski Mar 2013 #341

not really, things like Girls risking their lives by going to School does more to show JI7 Mar 2013 #284

Uh, seabeyond, those guys are on the same side you are. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #101

^^^^^^^^~THIS~^^^^^^^^^ cliffordu Mar 2013 #138

she doesn't hate or fear sex and nudity JI7 Mar 2013 #289

A topless woman with a pro-feminist message scrawled on her breasts. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #91

True enough maddezmom Mar 2013 #104

interestingly enough, that reference was by seabeyond. Roland99 Mar 2013 #119

she was pointing out how men say they love strippers and then say degrading things.... bettyellen Mar 2013 #135

which only reinforces the fact that she's ignoring the MESSAGE of the group's actions and, instead Roland99 Mar 2013 #137

the article does debate whether these protests are effective because of the immature and sexist bettyellen Mar 2013 #143

yes, the *article* does, but seabeyond does not. Roland99 Mar 2013 #146

Actually she expands on it here maddezmom Mar 2013 #200

Of course it does. zappaman Mar 2013 #204

Dishonest characterization. "Strippin" as in taking clothes off. Not "stripper" as in exotic dancing redqueen Mar 2013 #208

Hello you! Puglover Mar 2013 #278

And the article under discussion is written by a preeminent young feminist who has an astounding MADem Mar 2013 #273

I support Femen. As I said before in a post in the Feminists group... stevenleser Mar 2013 #95

yes, additionally her message is in keeping with her choice of messaging La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #141

+infinity. That is an important point. stevenleser Mar 2013 #151

+1 Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #277

K&R idwiyo Mar 2013 #97

Yours is probably the most clever post in this thread. randome Mar 2013 #110

Thank you! Just wanted to make sure this OP stays visible. idwiyo Mar 2013 #112

Damned if they do, damned if they don't LittleBlue Mar 2013 #124

This woman is deeply confused. redqueen Mar 2013 #144

Who said anything about Western women? Roland99 Mar 2013 #153

Her closing line: "Fuck your morals, indeed. I may even get my own out in solidarity." redqueen Mar 2013 #157

Yes. How many of the Western images referenced in this thread are of women over 30? Squinch Mar 2013 #372

The fact that it gets attention is all the proof you need. ElboRuum Mar 2013 #147

Boobies tend to make people lose their mind Major Nikon Mar 2013 #156

That kind of nasty over simplification says a lot about you. redqueen Mar 2013 #158

And yet realistic Major Nikon Mar 2013 #160

If by 'realistic' you mean 'seems logical enough for people with a tenuous grasp on logic to agree' redqueen Mar 2013 #162

Perhaps Major Nikon Mar 2013 #163

The fact that it's on both sides... ElboRuum Mar 2013 #172

these are very brave women, our puritan culture really doesn't mean anything quinnox Mar 2013 #152

LOL... puritan culture. redqueen Mar 2013 #159

Puritan compared to our more liberal neighbors across the Atlantic. Roland99 Mar 2013 #165

Facile analysis. redqueen Mar 2013 #178

wow...really? Roland99 Mar 2013 #181

Rape culture is everywhere, that's the point. This idea that 'puritanism' is some big issue redqueen Mar 2013 #186

I agree that a culture that condones or allows rape is an important thing to fight against Roland99 Mar 2013 #192

Yes, the situation in the ME is quite different. But I didn't conflate them, the writer did. redqueen Mar 2013 #199

Any 'puritan' reference is obviously defensiveness, IMO, randome Mar 2013 #205

you conveniently chose the very last line, one written in a flippant manner by the author Roland99 Mar 2013 #212

There is no "her group". redqueen Mar 2013 #213

Oh? Roland99 Mar 2013 #216

Confusion over semantics. redqueen Mar 2013 #219

remember the national uproar over Janet Jackson's nipple being exposed? quinnox Mar 2013 #168

Exactly. Roland99 Mar 2013 #169

Rules about nipples on broadcast tv prove exactly jack shit. redqueen Mar 2013 #174

Not only that, but the FCCs crackdown in the aftermath of "NippleGate" is still observable.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #175

yup. the remnants of puritan culture are everywhere quinnox Mar 2013 #180

Bingo LittleBlue Mar 2013 #240

Yep, UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #188

its remarkable how often she puts the word "rape" in almost every post quinnox Mar 2013 #194

It is almost a Godwinesque Phenomena CBGLuthier Mar 2013 #202

yup. its something I have noticed quinnox Mar 2013 #206

I thought it was just me who noticed that. MADem Mar 2013 #510

Gang-rape trial shocks France and sparks row over justice system redqueen Mar 2013 #195

Bingo? nt EOTE Mar 2013 #203

If men like you, Matt, want to talk about women's body parts, you need to lose the crude terminology whathehell Mar 2013 #166

and yet another person who can't be bothered to click a link and read a little. Roland99 Mar 2013 #170

Um, no. Read post #176 and get a clue. whathehell Mar 2013 #183

project much? Roland99 Mar 2013 #196

Read definitions much, lol? whathehell Mar 2013 #250

no, you told me to get a clue. Roland99 Mar 2013 #251

Right...For all your pissing & moaning about people "not reading the entire post" whathehell Mar 2013 #252

*I* didn't read the entire post???? Roland99 Mar 2013 #261

Or maybe... MattSh Mar 2013 #173

Or maybe... whathehell Mar 2013 #176

It's the title of the article. MattSh Mar 2013 #182

don't sweat it, MattSh Roland99 Mar 2013 #185

A title not your own deserves quote marks whathehell Mar 2013 #249

No shit. As I pointed out, that's why it needs quotation marks. whathehell Mar 2013 #255

Why so nasty? polly7 Mar 2013 #258

Why? whathehell Mar 2013 #263

Whatever. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #264

Yeah. whathehell Mar 2013 #265

LOL! polly7 Mar 2013 #268

Gee, you didn't strike me as the sharpest tack in the shed whathehell Mar 2013 #286

You showed your near illiteracy by not being able to understand the simple concept polly7 Mar 2013 #287

Sorry, honey, but grammar and punctuation, whathehell Mar 2013 #290

Look, you two. randome Mar 2013 #291

Awwww whathehell Mar 2013 #295

That was the point. polly7 Mar 2013 #296

Ummmm ....... eeeuw. I'm not your 'honey' polly7 Mar 2013 #292

Literal minded too, I see? whathehell Mar 2013 #298

Ohhh. My bad. I skipped a word. 'feel' bad. polly7 Mar 2013 #299

No, I'm sure it's not a priority for you.. whathehell Mar 2013 #302

Let me check if I give a fuck ...... polly7 Mar 2013 #304

You don't "give a fuck"?.....Awwww, really? whathehell Mar 2013 #516

While we`re on the subject of "clueless".. opiate69 Mar 2013 #293

LOL! nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #297

Now THAT is a very meaningful distinction... whathehell Mar 2013 #300

Yeah... opiate69 Mar 2013 #303

Yeah... whathehell Mar 2013 #517

not to mention, the cartoon of Superman dropping Lois Lane. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #424

Sorry Ignore whathehell Mar 2013 #515

Derp. EOTE Mar 2013 #201

What about boobies? Major Nikon Mar 2013 #189

What about breasts...duh? whathehell Mar 2013 #256

The revolution is being photographed! Coyotl Mar 2013 #191

How on earth did this post survive a jury? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #215

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Mar 2013 #221

Not enough puritans? Major Nikon Mar 2013 #222

lol Renew Deal Mar 2013 #384

... opiate69 Mar 2013 #226

Well at least we've not half a dozen people dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #228

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #428

. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #449

Sudden and rare outbreak of common sense, that's how. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #525

beautiful, courageous women quinnox Mar 2013 #230

I shudder to think what would happen if some of the horrified "HALP O NO NOOOD BOOBZ" folks Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #539

That was quite the event Coyotl Apr 2013 #540

Tell me about it. A couple years ago my Wife & I went out for Mother's Day Dinner, I think Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #541

Brave lady. LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #210

I have no idea what your OP says Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #214

I miss people having the ability to read (or at least click a link) Roland99 Mar 2013 #217

People who write usually have the ability to read as well. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #225

Interesting. I don't see anyone in western attire riding atop horses or bulls. Roland99 Mar 2013 #229

Ah, posting as a literalist. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #233

fine...only focus on the article's title then (the OP used the article's title...written by a woman) Roland99 Mar 2013 #235

If someone wants to get my attention Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #238

Adults aren't offended by other people using language they themselves would not. Occulus Mar 2013 #529

Well, I guess that's your loss then. MattSh Mar 2013 #236

How utterly juvenile, like you're trying to create a diversion from the topic valerief Mar 2013 #338

"creating a diversion from the topic" Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #343

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #223

Nice barn Major Nikon Mar 2013 #231

Even nicer Tetons.... opiate69 Mar 2013 #234

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #423

Nice rack! Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #245

Takeaway from this picture... ElboRuum Mar 2013 #253

Beautiful LittleBlue Mar 2013 #267

Petitioning Tunisian Government : Amina must be safe Coyotl Mar 2013 #237

Done. 46,333 more sigs needed. Kurovski Mar 2013 #532

An Interview With Aliaa Elmahdy -The Egyptian Feminist Nude Protester Coyotl Mar 2013 #247

Context is everything, isn't it? randome Mar 2013 #248

Aliaa Elmahdy protesting outside the Egyptian embassy in Stockholm, Sweden. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #327

Ahh! An energetic philosophical debate on DU. randome Mar 2013 #257

i would show my weiner to make a point datasuspect Mar 2013 #259

I wouldn't touch that -literally or figuratively- with a 10 foot pole. randome Mar 2013 #262

The women there need to revolt and stone the men. LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #285

Why don't Men ever have to pull out their parts to get Equal Pay, go to school without being SHot JI7 Mar 2013 #288

Because if a man pulls out his penis, most women are going to run the other way davidn3600 Mar 2013 #308

Lady Godiva rides again. edbermac Mar 2013 #301

I absolutely love that picture. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #305

+1 Go Vols Mar 2013 #528

People seem to be ignoring the first half of this gollygee Mar 2013 #307

and that's the point sea and others have been making JI7 Mar 2013 #312

No... opiate69 Mar 2013 #314

Being ignored is part of what the enslavement mentality wants. randome Mar 2013 #316

I'm not going to "just deal with it" gollygee Mar 2013 #317

yeah, why should we deal with needing to show tits to get attention JI7 Mar 2013 #318

Women are FORBIDDEN by men to be topless in both Eastern and Western societies. randome Mar 2013 #320

My beef isn't with her choice to protest as she has gollygee Mar 2013 #323

We're on the same page on that! randome Mar 2013 #324

why not ? people criticize Code Pink and some others with how they protest sometimes JI7 Mar 2013 #328

So far as I know, no DUers hail from Tunisia. randome Mar 2013 #333

there are women from that part of the world who would criticize it JI7 Mar 2013 #334

You just like looking at tits. kwassa Mar 2013 #404

Look at it this way. randome Mar 2013 #410

Because that is not the issue that is being protested. kwassa Mar 2013 #498

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #542

You miss my point. Completely. kwassa Apr 2013 #544

Aren't you the guy that complained about Beyonce and her dancers LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #545

Sorry, but you miss the point, too. My point in both these cases is CONTEXT. kwassa Apr 2013 #546

Context = in the middle of a highly violent game LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #547

Why are you reposting a hidden post? kwassa Apr 2013 #565

This thread has turned into one incredible whack-a-doodle! randome Apr 2013 #566

. LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #577

I don't see the problem you are having. kwassa Apr 2013 #578

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #548

Yes, that is just about it. All the blood rushes to one area of the body. kwassa Apr 2013 #558

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #560

My point exactly. kwassa Apr 2013 #561

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #562

They certainly can, and be judged for it, too. kwassa Apr 2013 #563

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #564

go back and re-read what I've written, and you will get the point. kwassa Apr 2013 #567

I think you are projecting. If you can't handle multiple thoughts and impulses, you need stevenleser Apr 2013 #572

Women don't have to take their clothes off to be heard in general Renew Deal Mar 2013 #396

Because things that we take for granted LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #460

I don't get it. geckosfeet Mar 2013 #336

They put her in a psych hospital... davidthegnome Mar 2013 #369

maybe they put her there for her protection? (nt) Kurovski Mar 2013 #472

Maybe. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #505

Until they do it to make a point about something you disagree with. Zax2me Mar 2013 #392

"Smart progressive women" aren't even allowed to go to school in many parts of the world. Kurovski Mar 2013 #461

If only Adria Richards had displayed her breasts on Twitter BainsBane Mar 2013 #436

Adria Richards is a self-absorbed, privileged asshole compared to Amina. Kurovski Mar 2013 #469

case in point BainsBane Mar 2013 #484

You're all over the place. Kurovski Mar 2013 #495

It's not very difficult to understand BainsBane Mar 2013 #500

"Someone like me"? Kurovski Mar 2013 #503

Threats of death and rape aren't real BainsBane Mar 2013 #493

Co-workers said she was an asshole. Even people who liked her. Kurovski Mar 2013 #497

those coworkers were assholes BainsBane Mar 2013 #501

... opiate69 Mar 2013 #506

You actually think that people engage in rape as a form of recreation during conferences? JVS Mar 2013 #526

there are numerous reports of rape from those conferences BainsBane Mar 2013 #534

Hold on a second.... snooper2 Apr 2013 #576

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #509

It's only offensive if you believe that women are sexual objects to be owned. PDJane Mar 2013 #487

Did anyone here actually read the article? Apophis Mar 2013 #496

I'd say half, maybe more have read the actual article in full. Kurovski Mar 2013 #499

people on facebook can sign this petition against the government killing her. Kurovski Mar 2013 #507

But where's the petition to express our 1st World Problems(tm) poutrage over the word tits? DRoseDARs Mar 2013 #511

Well, it looks like that petition is DU itself. Kurovski Mar 2013 #512

I try not to put ppl on Ignore. This shit's too funny for that. Though, I'm going to break my nose.. DRoseDARs Mar 2013 #513

Be careful. Kurovski Mar 2013 #514

You are the one degrading this young woman's serious gesture. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #533

How so? He is posting the actual title of the article. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #537

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #538

CALLING NURSE DIESEL!!! Skittles Apr 2013 #552

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #554

Showing boobs won't fix the problem... Malik Agar Apr 2013 #559

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #568

Heh.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #570

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #571

Next time I want a lot of responses to my thread, the word "tits" goes in the subject line steve2470 Apr 2013 #569

Women with guts. wundermaus Sep 2014 #604