I'll believe gun advocates care more about kids than guns when they...

[Decoy of Fenris]

17. Not "exactly". Not even close.

If the debate was about dead kids and adults, then the rightwing arguments of pools and cars killing more people would hold water. It's not about the deaths, it isn't even about the life; it's about the gun. Gun Control folks who trot out children and make false appeals to emotion -have- no argument, because there is no argument to be made. People die from one cause or another; a gun is a convenient scapegoat upon which to place blame and scorn, and more often than not, those crying the loudest for bans and confiscations are the same people who would never take part in firearm-related activities regardless. To them, it's win/win; they lose nothing while forcing others to lose something. It is arrogant self-righteous mental masturbation in the extreme , and none of it is "for the children".

You want to know why people like me aren't affected by the "Dead children" argument? Because people die. Adults die, elders die, children die, babies die, all from all manner of causes that -aren't- guns, some of which are preventable. I have yet to see anyone give me a reason for gun control that doesn't boil down to the right-wing authoritarian meme of "Think of the children!"

Does that make me cruel and callous? Possibly, but as I mentioned above, I am not beyond reason. Show me a way to easily prevent gun violence and deaths largely without impacting the common everyday gun owner and I'll be on board with financial and physical support in a heartbeat. However, I rather dislike "BAN ALL THE EVERYTHING BECAUSE OMG THE CHILDREN" as a rally call, what with being a progressive Democrat and all.


Let's start small, though. Would you tell me one reason why gun control is a necessity, with one caveat: "People dying" doesn't count as a reason. If you can do that, then we're getting somewhere in an active dialogue.