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cali

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Sat Sep 7, 2013, 11:21 AM Sep 2013

France pulls back on supporting strike, Kerry fails to convince EU counterparts [View all]

Secretary of State John Kerry failed to sway his European counterparts on the urgency of a U.S.-led military strike to halt the use of chemical weapons in Syria’s more than two-year civil war.

France, the principal U.S. ally in a possible assault, slowed its march to a confrontation by backing a European Union appeal to put off an armed response until the United Nations delivers a report on last month’s use of chemical agents in a massacre near Damascus.

“The EU underscores at the same time the need to move forward with addressing the Syrian crisis through the UN process,” the 28-nation bloc’s foreign-policy chief Catherine Ashton told reporters after EU foreign ministers met Kerry in Vilnius, Lithuania.

U.S. setbacks in securing international backing for targeted strikes on Syria’s war-making capability were matched by President Barack Obama’s trouble at home in persuading Congress to authorize an American intervention.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-07/kerry-fails-to-sway-european-skeptics-on-urgency-of-syria-strike.html

Two-thirds of French oppose Syria action: poll
http://www.france24.com/en/20130907-two-thirds-french-oppose-syria-action-poll


European Union Wants U.N. Report Before Any Military Action in Syria

The European Union said Saturday that a military strike against Syria should be put off until United Nations inspectors submit a preliminary report on a deadly chemical weapons attack near the Syrian capital, Damascus.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/world/europe/european-union-wants-un-report-before-any-military-action-in-syria.html?_r=0



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Two-thirds of French oppose Syria action: poll dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #1
I forecast that French public opinion will swing further against intervention. David__77 Sep 2013 #2
Oh boy. The rhetoric is going to get more desperate and shrill now Catherina Sep 2013 #3
Good Morning, my dear. cali Sep 2013 #7
We have about 1% support for Obama in Oregon now. Coyotl Sep 2013 #10
And all 18 of them Aerows Sep 2013 #14
More people work in the defense industry than support Obama on this one! Coyotl Sep 2013 #24
And it's just not liberal districts like DeFazio's that are saying this. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #34
Same here :( Catherina Sep 2013 #11
That guy is full of bullshit. Coyotl Sep 2013 #38
Well- at some point blaming the rebels for the chemical attack will be put in CT forum. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #27
Oh, boy, the war-cheerleaders will have a sad RetroLounge Sep 2013 #4
You kiddin'? France has a reserved spot. Iggo Sep 2013 #22
After Libya and Mali Jeneral2885 Sep 2013 #5
Dear John please use the UN Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2013 #6
He had no difficulty convincing EU countries Assad used chemical weapons... Barack_America Sep 2013 #8
+1 SunSeeker Sep 2013 #15
Yes. It's a form of cowardice. Yes, Assad used chemical weapons &amp; is almost assuredly going to again KittyWampus Sep 2013 #31
The US military FUCKING HELPED Hussein gas the Iranians (not sure about the Kurds) eridani Sep 2013 #54
International joint statement on Syria ProSense Sep 2013 #9
Nowhere in that statement does it call for unilateral military action on the part of the USA. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #17
EU: All info on Syria gas attack points to Assad ProSense Sep 2013 #20
We all agree that if he used chemical weapons on his own people he should be held accountable. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #28
excuse me? A huge number of DU'ers are totally unwilling to concede Assad used chemical weapons in KittyWampus Sep 2013 #35
I said "if" he used chemical weapons. Did Assad personally order the use of the weapons? Or totodeinhere Sep 2013 #43
There's just one teeny weeny problem with your personal preference... Beer Swiller Sep 2013 #45
I think you are confusing the International Court of Justice with the International Criminal Court. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #47
Oops. I stand corrected. I also stand by my basic point, however. Beer Swiller Sep 2013 #57
Fair enough. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2013 #58
That's more strongly worded than the headlines would suggest. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #18
Kerry is so funny LittleBlue Sep 2013 #12
Kerry was against it before he was for it. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #13
And that was before he was against it again n/t durablend Sep 2013 #32
Great post, but it really doesn't help me resolve my *personal*; ethical dilemma, sadly. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #16
Great post. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #21
Thank you! ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #23
Punished how? I understand your sentiment cali Sep 2013 #29
In whatever way is most pointed and painful to his regime. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #37
Does it make it okay that this very Administration chose to exonerate the Bush War Criminals sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #39
I didn't (and won't) make that argument. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #44
It's not the past. The victims are still producing deformed babies and begging for help, right now. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #46
I apologize, but I'm not going to follow you into that argument. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #48
Something else? Are we not talking about War Crimes? sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #53
We're talking about violating the 1993 Geneva CWC, or at least I am. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #56
Ask the Japanese who bombed them with nukes malaise Sep 2013 #51
Don't forget Poland. rug Sep 2013 #19
The guillotine casts a long shadow... Beer Swiller Sep 2013 #25
EU agrees that all indications on Syria chemical attack points to Assad KittyWampus Sep 2013 #26
Yes. The equivalent of the "strongly worded letter". It is not cali Sep 2013 #33
Most French know the difference between a shit sandwich and a macaron jsr Sep 2013 #30
Dear Coles School Teacher Sep 2013 #36
That's why I'm not advocating a military response, necessarily. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #41
Obama's idol RR did nothing when Saddam used chemical weapons in the 1980s. jsr Sep 2013 #42
But Kerry speaks French and everything! polichick Sep 2013 #40
Oh that's it no more French Fries for me Chisox08 Sep 2013 #49
K&R woo me with science Sep 2013 #50
Kerry reminds me more of Robert McNamara everyday. dflprincess Sep 2013 #52
good comparison. cali Sep 2013 #55
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