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26. McDonough's exact quote on "uh,...what we know."

Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:23 PM

Sep 2013

MCDONOUGH: Here's, uh, here's what we know. Here's the common sense test. I'm not going to talk to you about intelligence. Here's the common sense test. The material was used in the eastern suburbs of Damascus that had been controlled by the opposition for some time. It was delivered by rockets, rockets which we know the Assad regime has, and we have no indications that the opposition has.

And you've now seen -- uh, CNN, in fact, ran these videos yesterday. You've seen the, uh, video proof of the outcome of those attacks.

All of that leads to, as I say, a quite strong common sense test, irrespective of the intelligence, that suggests that, uh, the regime carried this out.

That's it, folks.

That is an incredibly weak case to join a civil war, kill innocents over and tip a chaos of dominoes.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1309/08/sotu.01.html

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White House: Irrefutable Assad link to gas attack lacking, but passes ‘common-sense test’ [View all] morningfog Sep 2013 OP

IMO sense isn't common in this administration...... bowens43 Sep 2013 #1

This administration is good!! janlyn Sep 2013 #2

WTF? Common sense test says last thing the Assad regime wanted was this situation. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #3

+1 Dems to Win Sep 2013 #14

Now you're just using too much common sense. morningfog Sep 2013 #28

Heh. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #77

Occam's Razor is common sense... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #29

Actually Occam's razor and common sense need not be the same thing at all. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #47

easy peasy another run by Occam's Razor VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #59

actually VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #69

My opinion exactly Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #54

Was is 'common sense' to believe Saddam had drones Rex Sep 2013 #4

did we have gassed people to see with our own eyes VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #30

Saddam had gassed his own people duriing the Iran/Iraq war . .. markpkessinger Sep 2013 #49

and was Obama President then? The Republicans were and we know how they feel about VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #51

Sure, I was. That didn't mean I thought it was advisable to invade Iraq n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #55

"Common-sense"... Would seem to be that rebels stole chemical weapons and used them to drum up Taitertots Sep 2013 #5

Indeed. "Common-sense" says that the DAY the UN CW inspectors arrive is not the DAY... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #7

Let me get this straight nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #6

Yeah, that's about the size of it . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #56

I am definitely in the wrong business nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #62

It's horrifying n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #74

"The White House is lying again" also passes the "common-sense test" FarCenter Sep 2013 #8

It's surreal they would even advance this a valid line of reasoning. reformist2 Sep 2013 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #9

Damn, yeah. I did not mean to link to a reply post page. morningfog Sep 2013 #15

Please. This is a devastating story and needs to be disseminated far and wide. Completely HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #18

sure it does....those gassed humans mean nothing... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #32

Hey sport, how many more humans are you willing to kill based merely based on 'common sense'? You're HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #34

Fixed. Thanks. morningfog Sep 2013 #17

Bless you! Peace! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #19

The White House has lost their minds LittleBlue Sep 2013 #10

The entire regime change policy toward Syria has been fucking stupid. leveymg Sep 2013 #41

That's an extremely euphemistic way of saying that it is plausible. JVS Sep 2013 #11

"And jurors, during your deliberations ignore the evidence you've heard, and just go with your gut!" reformist2 Sep 2013 #12

This administration has become a total joke Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #16

If common sense was really all that common, it wouldn't be remarked upon when it happens. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #20

Before I was merely sad. Now I am really mad. Those sociopathic lying warmongering, HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #21

you mean the babykillers that used chemical weapons to do it? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #33

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #35

Does the 'common sense' theory apply to OUR OWN War Criminals then? Can we just arrest them and sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #22

Hunch: The UN inspectors are starting to get results... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #23

Obama's Magic 8 Ball said "Most signs point to probably" NightWatcher Sep 2013 #24

He has not consulted the mighty Carnac the Great! Miss Cleo should have some input too... L0oniX Sep 2013 #68

Kick for the goddamned motherfucking outrage - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #25

McDonough's exact quote on "uh,...what we know." morningfog Sep 2013 #26

Dear White House whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #27

+Infinity x Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #31

What? woo me with science Sep 2013 #36

Common sense is sorely lacking in this entire clusterfuck. rug Sep 2013 #37

What? woo me with science Sep 2013 #38

Common sense test says that going to war requires evidence beyond a reasonable doubt leveymg Sep 2013 #39

What the HELL? woo me with science Sep 2013 #40

Kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #42

Even IF they had 'irrefutable evidence' linking the attacks to Assad . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #43

Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2013 #44

^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Sep 2013 #65

+1000000 n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #73

Shameful and embarassing, stop it, just stop it. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #45

... City Lights Sep 2013 #46

So... the US went from "irrefutable evidence" to "common sense"... ocpagu Sep 2013 #48

Sorry, Mr. President -- I don't want my country engaging in acts of war . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #50

And that sound you hear madville Sep 2013 #52

Yet O's cheerleaders will say durablend Sep 2013 #81

So after being told yesterday that I was SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #53

That was...2003. I wish I were kidding nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #75

Seems to me . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #57

Common sense is the least common of the senses. :-p brisas2k Sep 2013 #58

Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Carried Out by Rebels, Says UN (UPDATE) brisas2k Sep 2013 #61

Trying to evade the tough question by claiming Assad did not do it treestar Sep 2013 #60

And the proof is?... in the folds of someone's pants. :-p brisas2k Sep 2013 #63

"the evidence is quite clear" ocpagu Sep 2013 #66

There is evidence treestar Sep 2013 #70

Response to Government References to MSF Syria Statement deutsey Sep 2013 #71

Excellent post. Thanks. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #79

There you have your answer. ocpagu Sep 2013 #72

Yeah ...well ...the only place this is "common sense" is in the fucking DC bubble. FFS! L0oniX Sep 2013 #64

"Common sense:" Hear a lotta 'bout that in Gungeon. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #67

Joe Biden said this day would come, and we'd have to stand with the President. Common Sense Party Sep 2013 #76

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #78

I'll pretend to be surprised. 99Forever Sep 2013 #80