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In reply to the discussion: Maybe the idealist liberals can just stifile themselves [View all]ancianita
(36,238 posts)90. That I agree with. Idealists and authoritarians don't get along. Not for idealists lack of trying.
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I scream about smearing with lime jello and dare them to have a problem with it.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2013
#52
1) bad policy proposed 2) we "wait for the details" before saying anything 3) it passes
MisterP
Sep 2013
#6
you're so right! once a law passes, is impossible to change back. look at the 9/11-knee jerk laws.
Sunlei
Sep 2013
#16
It's not totally up to industry. It can be done for the greater good of all. Industry can suck it.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#65
Like Welfare Reform? That was, how long ago now? Airc, it was supposed to be 'fixed'.
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#106
I don't know exactly your take on the ODS, but for me it's improper semantically and culturally.
libdem4life
Sep 2013
#83
The "__ Derangement syndrome" meme is a well known right wing attack device created by
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#116
Thanks for the explanation...wasn't around here during Bush and frankly wasn't too surprised
libdem4life
Sep 2013
#137
Thank you! That's all the idealist liberals ask. When the time is right, the ideals become real.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#72
big difference between idealist and ideologue. Idealist works towards goals, taking long view.
KittyWampus
Sep 2013
#14
And then there's the apathetic, who just snarls at anyone arguing against status quo n/t
Scootaloo
Sep 2013
#112
Before I put in my two cents, I'll say that the MLK photo implication is clever of you.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#17
They're just fussing with each other. Families do that, and I'm feminist enough to say that.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#75
Absolutism absolutely fails. Practicality & pragmatism often win. Sometimes stifle, sometimes shout.
Bernardo de La Paz
Sep 2013
#22
This 'irony' shit is so fucking tiresome. Leave it to One-Note, I mean, Third-Way Manny.
Richardo
Sep 2013
#23
The Left is not throwable. Got that? Obama knows that liberal idealism has inherent validity. Obama
ancianita
Sep 2013
#68
It's CIC behavior. It's leadership. Real leading is disgusting, which is why most of us don't do it.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#100
True, I might be misinterpreting you, but I do think we have to moderate words like "disgust"
ancianita
Sep 2013
#108
Just imagine what this country would be like if either of his opponents had won.
Phlem
Sep 2013
#109
I negated the unfounded, thus unfair claim that Obama invented kill lists. I was irritated by
ancianita
Sep 2013
#134
Damned right we should continue that movement. You're talking about fair weather moderates.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#71
"All sorts of people" are not what liberal idealists are. They think differently from fair weather
ancianita
Sep 2013
#77
There was a very great amount more outrage here over the possibility of going to war in Syria
Gman
Sep 2013
#56
that's because it's right wing republicans gutting voting rights. We expect that
Doctor_J
Sep 2013
#111
You expect Dems to fight them on it??? With what? With what support? It's a dead issue here now
Gman
Sep 2013
#115
Imagine if GWB had told the Tea Partiers to stand down. Their moniker did not emerge out of a
libdem4life
Sep 2013
#78
Glad you liked it. Might as well do a little sanctification for the hell of it.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#86
I don't understand. Are you saying that liberal idealists are some form of authoritarian?
ancianita
Sep 2013
#88
That I agree with. Idealists and authoritarians don't get along. Not for idealists lack of trying.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#90
Pretty much. It's about the power of love vs. the love of power. About win/win vs. win/lose politics
ancianita
Sep 2013
#92
Maybe idealist liberals should recognize that they are not the only Democrats who care
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#97
They do recognize. But they shouldn't have to stfu about visions that end need, hard work or
ancianita
Sep 2013
#104
CD, the problem isn't so much the idealism on the left....it's how it's used. nt
AverageJoe90
Sep 2013
#113
You'll be holding your thought a lot longer if you're waiting for a GOP Prez to make it all happen.
Scurrilous
Sep 2013
#117
Remember our poutrage over that homophobic Fucknutz at the inaugural?
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#127
That's right, just twist this thread all to hell in order to shoot the shotgun snark at yea-sayers.
ancianita
Sep 2013
#144
IN MY RUSH OF IDEALISM, I MUST'A IMAGINED THAT THE PREZ. SAID TO PUSH HIM, FDR TOO
drynberg
Sep 2013
#147