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Orrex

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63. Within the bounds of the pit bull discussion here @ DU...

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:05 AM

Sep 2013

There are a number of quite vocal advocates for the dogs who do indeed reject all information that contradicts their views, and they insist that the dogs are only dangerous when the actions of humans has forced the dogs to be so.

They argue that cases of attack by these dogs are anecdotal and non-representative of the breed, and as proof they offer their own anecdotes of good behavior that they insist are definitive and representative of the breed. They go even further, attacking their opponents as ignorant, genocidal bigots who are full of bullshit.

It's fascinating, in a way, because their ridiculously disproportionate ferocity is a close analog of the behaviors that they insist their beoved animals could never possess.

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Uncle, Grandmother in Custody After Toddler's Dog Attack Death [View all] The Straight Story Sep 2013 OP

"five pit bull mixes . . . " - simply insane DrDan Sep 2013 #1

Five = Pack theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #2

bingo TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #5

exactly - no one is safe from a pack - particularly an infant DrDan Sep 2013 #10

I won't know how to feel about this until I read a sermon about the righteousness of pit bulls Orrex Sep 2013 #3

as usual, the article doesn't bother to describe the dogs beyond the inflammatory magical thyme Sep 2013 #4

That is so common at dog parks and in areas where people walk or hang out with their dogs. tblue37 Sep 2013 #6

We often have to leave the dog park Marrah_G Sep 2013 #21

I am not a fan of dog parks GreenEyedLefty Sep 2013 #28

When my 30 pound poodle mix was being attacked by a pit-bull (mix) pnwmom Sep 2013 #9

Your last line is telling. And inaccurate.Unfortunately there are too many intact dogs of all breeds uppityperson Sep 2013 #11

I wonder why the Idaho Humane Society offers an "extremely reduced" fee to neuter pnwmom Sep 2013 #12

According to their website because they see an abundance of "Pit bull type dogs being relinquished uppityperson Sep 2013 #16

But that begs the question. pnwmom Sep 2013 #18

Animals are "relinquished" under threat of criminal charges and fines REP Sep 2013 #30

Are you saying that negligent and abusive owners are more likely to own pit bulls? n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #32

No. I believe you are making that assertion. I was explaining about relinquishments REP Sep 2013 #35

Why did you make the point that negligent and abusive people relinquish their dogs pnwmom Sep 2013 #36

I believe I said "animals" REP Sep 2013 #38

Why did you make that point in a thread about pit bulls if you weren't talking about pit bulls? n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #40

Why I do a lot of things is one of those mysteries REP Sep 2013 #49

Because dumb people think pits are roody Sep 2013 #64

Apparently the adults were unaware that the toddler had climbed through a window tblue37 Sep 2013 #7

Or playing in a 24 foot deep hole that was dug out without a permit. Jamastiene Sep 2013 #57

People just don't understand them, they are good dogs snooper2 Sep 2013 #8

No such thing as a bad dog. DragonBorn Sep 2013 #13

Even small breeds are dangerous. RebelOne Sep 2013 #23

English shepherds were bred to kill vermin XemaSab Sep 2013 #39

Owning five dogs is a red flag also. roody Sep 2013 #65

The pit bull loving crew always focuses on the Nurture aspect forgetting it has always been JCMach1 Sep 2013 #14

I think Vick's dogs -- that were forced to kill or be killed -- proved they are good dogs magical thyme Sep 2013 #15

Interesting Orrex Sep 2013 #19

not miraculous at all, and I think you know that. magical thyme Sep 2013 #20

I don't accept that they are inherently loving animals Orrex Sep 2013 #24

if I came across a feral pack of any breed of large dog I'd naturally be afraid magical thyme Sep 2013 #25

If I post a video of a pit bull mauling someone, will it change your mind? Orrex Sep 2013 #27

oh ffs. "combat-arena killing machine " seriously? magical thyme Sep 2013 #37

Why are they called "pit bulls?" XemaSab Sep 2013 #41

that was a couple hundred or so years ago magical thyme Sep 2013 #45

A couple hundred? XemaSab Sep 2013 #46

a couple hundred as "bull baiting" magical thyme Sep 2013 #47

"specifically bred not to bite humans" (only other dogs) Nine Sep 2013 #68

Seriously Orrex Sep 2013 #42

+1000 truebluegreen Sep 2013 #31

I was in the hospital for 4 days and nearly died from an animal bite this year. REP Sep 2013 #33

She is beautiful. I hope you healed ok and she is ok too. uppityperson Sep 2013 #53

She's fine! REP Sep 2013 #71

Holy shit snooper, that's twice in one week whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #48

to be fair they were designed to kill other dogs, not humans. nt La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #67

Good. HappyMe Sep 2013 #17

I agree 100% dorkzilla Sep 2013 #26

We didn't go out of our way to adopt a pit, either GreenEyedLefty Sep 2013 #29

Seems we have a lot in common! dorkzilla Sep 2013 #34

I think people must be pretty stupid Boudica the Lyoness Sep 2013 #54

They said the same thing about Dobermans. dorkzilla Sep 2013 #58

A massive percent of people killed by dogs are killed by pits XemaSab Sep 2013 #70

Well, I'll be sure to let you know *IF* my dog kills anyone. GreenEyedLefty Sep 2013 #72

Having a pack of large dogs is a big mistake Marrah_G Sep 2013 #22

Its beyond foolish and stupid to ignore animal instincts and breeding riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #43

Obviously you don't know what you're talking about Orrex Sep 2013 #44

No dog is "angelic." But they're not some special kind of evil either. Just saying... nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #56

I've never claimed that they're "some special kind of evil." Orrex Sep 2013 #60

I agree it's preposterous. But how many people actually subscribe to such a caricatured view? nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #61

Within the bounds of the pit bull discussion here @ DU... Orrex Sep 2013 #63

I farm, raise sheep and have the help of border collies and guardian dogs Tumbulu Sep 2013 #51

We have two Australian Shepherds. Boudica the Lyoness Sep 2013 #52

The breeding of pit bulls or pit mixes should be against the law. theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #59

All dog breeding should stop now. roody Sep 2013 #66

I am sure they are Tumbulu Sep 2013 #73

I'll settle for a one year moratorium. roody Sep 2013 #75

I worry about this too Tumbulu Sep 2013 #74

Pit Owners are just like Gun Owners... Lancero Sep 2013 #50

Somehow this entire thread reminds me of various gun threads. SheilaT Sep 2013 #55

Precisely. 99Forever Sep 2013 #62

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