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etherealtruth

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25. Really ... you don't understand ...?

Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:42 PM

Sep 2013

Last edited Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:13 PM - Edit history (1)

To use an example from Michigan r/t to two 'good guys" with legal guns:

Pair of men with concealed-carry permits engage in shootout
this is the correct link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/michigan-concealed-carry-road-rage-two-dead_n_3956491.html

This is the wrong link I originally posted
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/pair-of-men-with-concealed-carry-permits-engage-in-rolling-road-rage-shootout-b9953189z1-215267661.html

Both of these men had CCW permits and were considered "good guys with guns" ... until they were psychos with guns. Both are dead.

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I would avoid a store where people are openly carrying guns [View all] CreekDog Sep 2013 OP

Earlier this year I saw a guy carrying a gun in Publix, not a security guy. djean111 Sep 2013 #1

I think I would do the same. I would be sure to tell the store manager why I was leaving. Arkansas Granny Sep 2013 #2

Right now Chuuku Davis Sep 2013 #4

Thank goodness for that Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #11

That's true now, but you never know when that might change. Arkansas Granny Sep 2013 #17

Me too! I would take my basket with what I had already selected to the customer service counter and Fla Dem Sep 2013 #147

This whole "open carry" thing tosh Sep 2013 #5

Too many John Wayne movies Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #28

Apparently they're doing it to "educate" us that guns aren't dangerous. Squinch Sep 2013 #32

The other day, some controller/banners said they PREFERRED OC. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #41

so you just said that gun control proponents value open carry? CreekDog Sep 2013 #60

Hey, it's a poll within your castellated walls. Take a look. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #121

No wonder you want to carry guns everywhere --you clearly won't get by on your wits alone CreekDog Sep 2013 #126

Oh, you're just being silly. I'll take my deficient syntax over your sports writing. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #128

Maybe you should do a another poll pintobean Sep 2013 #134

the recommends and responses in this thread show what most here believe CreekDog Sep 2013 #143

Show me pintobean Sep 2013 #145

So by your logic, to call ourselves Democrats, we should probably develop unanimous Squinch Sep 2013 #102

I see no logic at all in your verbal mix master... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #120

I am not aware of the poll, but I'll let everyone know that we're meeting at your house. Squinch Sep 2013 #149

As long as you're buying! Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #152

It is deranged malaise Sep 2013 #132

If you are in Florida, open carry is illegal HockeyMom Sep 2013 #7

Sneaky and devious? rl6214 Sep 2013 #114

same here basically CreekDog Sep 2013 #12

I'd leave too, and call the store and tell them why. nt Ilsa Sep 2013 #43

The strange thing to me is: IF a person is deranged and truly wants to "Go Postal", the FIRST... BlueJazz Sep 2013 #94

Just curious, where do you live?? Chuuku Davis Sep 2013 #3

why does this refer to where I live? CreekDog Sep 2013 #13

California. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #45

OK, now that is really weird Link Speed Sep 2013 #59

The reporting of the event quoted LE. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #61

It just dawned on me Link Speed Sep 2013 #73

Or Skittles. Squinch Sep 2013 #75

Or skittles and watermelon drink. rl6214 Sep 2013 #116

Teen of color with a baseball bat? NealK Sep 2013 #84

That law in CA has changed - it's generally not legal to open-carry either petronius Sep 2013 #106

yep, I noted that above Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #150

Oh Hell Yes!!! kentuck Sep 2013 #6

Florida. djean111 Sep 2013 #14

If you saw someone open carrying in Florida Jenoch Sep 2013 #35

You know what? It doesn't matter to me. djean111 Sep 2013 #36

Why should a U.S. Marshall always be easily identified? Jenoch Sep 2013 #44

So I should just think that a random guy with a gun in a grocery store is a U.S. Marshall? djean111 Sep 2013 #48

You certainly can make that choice for yourself. Jenoch Sep 2013 #52

you said the bank customer screwed up by not knowing a US Marshall when he saw one CreekDog Sep 2013 #64

I did not write that bank customer screwed up because Jenoch Sep 2013 #117

Well the OP was written by someone who said they would leave the store. djean111 Sep 2013 #66

In that case I would still leave... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #37

why is a bank customer expected to know that it was a US Marshall? CreekDog Sep 2013 #63

Of course a bank customer is not expected Jenoch Sep 2013 #101

I don't leave when I see some idiotic jerk carrying a gun... 99Forever Sep 2013 #8

Yup. I'm glad I live in a state where this shit doesn't happen. RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #9

There are plenty of people packing in your state. Their guns are just hidden. Throd Sep 2013 #71

We're posting in a thread about open carry. RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #131

Perhaps. RedFury Sep 2013 #148

R#5 & K for, yip, it's going to have to be the corporate owners to shut down the gun loons UTUSN Sep 2013 #10

Starbucks has not changed their policy. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #46

Let's not waste each other's time with this exchange. UTUSN Sep 2013 #57

Perhaps you should read it carefully. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #83

how do you know that people who don't want to see open carrying of guns are in favor of gun control? CreekDog Sep 2013 #67

Both times I have had this happen to me I made sure I left, called and then spoke with the msanthrope Sep 2013 #15

That's what I would do also, luckily haven't had the opportunity. northoftheborder Sep 2013 #16

Me too shenmue Sep 2013 #18

Unless those openly carried guns are drawn and pointed they are a target for people who want but ... JEFF9K Sep 2013 #19

wait for them to start shooting before getting concerned? CreekDog Sep 2013 #68

Point and laugh at them. They're not going to shoot you. Throd Sep 2013 #20

You wanna take s bet on that? Brigid Sep 2013 #30

I would. They want to intimidate people, not spend prison in life for first degree murder. Throd Sep 2013 #51

You think George Zimmerman is the only wannabe / whack out there? truebluegreen Sep 2013 #70

George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin under the cover of darkness with no witnesses. Throd Sep 2013 #74

I admit to a bad example. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #86

There were witnesses. The trail was heavily covered here on DU. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #95

"The Trail" CreekDog Sep 2013 #105

So I made a typo. Big deal. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #107

Oh, yeah. That's sensible. Squinch Sep 2013 #33

So have I, but not by some self-important blowhard trying to make a point. Throd Sep 2013 #53

Yeah, and I will tell a cop to go fuck himself... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #39

I would leave and complain to management on my way out etherealtruth Sep 2013 #21

I don't know what you mean by EvilAL Sep 2013 #23

Really ... you don't understand ...? etherealtruth Sep 2013 #25

Maybe it's the 'good guys with guns' EvilAL Sep 2013 #31

So now imagine a bunch of guys going into Starbucks and showing off their guns because they Squinch Sep 2013 #34

I just don't think I'd see it that way EvilAL Sep 2013 #77

And if you saw 10 guys with guns at Tim Horton's? Squinch Sep 2013 #96

Actually neither is dead. Southpaw07 Sep 2013 #42

Actually, you would know they were both dead had I copied the correct link to the michigan case etherealtruth Sep 2013 #55

No problem. Southpaw07 Sep 2013 #135

Enforcement of existing law may have prevented that incident. pintobean Sep 2013 #136

Law enforcement constantly trains to fire guns in an appropriate manner. MsPithy Sep 2013 #62

Aren't law enforcement people 'civilians' too? EvilAL Sep 2013 #82

The police in your town "constantly train"? Wow. Mine go to the range every 3 years Recursion Sep 2013 #99

Cops are lousy shots. Remember the hail of tblue37 Sep 2013 #103

It's a reference to Wayne La Pierre's statement after the Sandy Hook Elemen. School massacre Hekate Sep 2013 #130

In the pantheon of things I have to worry about rrneck Sep 2013 #22

I would most definitely leave...especially if I had one of my grandchildren with me.... cynatnite Sep 2013 #24

Intentions: esp. If they have a gun concealed. Ignorance is bliss? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #47

I thought about that, too, but openly carrying gets me thinking of mass shootings... cynatnite Sep 2013 #65

In most mass shootings, the weapon (long gun or handgun) was hidden. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #100

I would continue shopping. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #26

I think that waiting until the weirdness starts is too late. djean111 Sep 2013 #40

I would leave katmondoo Sep 2013 #27

Up my awareness and Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #29

I'd take a good look at the guy and attempt Jenoch Sep 2013 #38

Same here. But I've lived in 2 states where OC is not allowed -- Texas & Florida. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #50

Minnesota has had a CCW law for ten years. Jenoch Sep 2013 #56

My experience as well. nt Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #122

so everyone who open carries isn't a dangerous person, but a Minnesota CCW holder CreekDog Sep 2013 #141

I don't understand your point. Jenoch Sep 2013 #142

just keep changing the subject, keep acting like you forgot the post you made minutes ago CreekDog Sep 2013 #144

A quote from the Tao of Bruce Lee go west young man Sep 2013 #49

^This^ truebluegreen Sep 2013 #81

I would avoid any building where people are openly carrying pintobean Sep 2013 #54

disingenuous CreekDog Sep 2013 #69

Lighten up Francis pintobean Sep 2013 #76

well that would be a refreshing change CreekDog Sep 2013 #119

Is this supposed to be funny? NealK Sep 2013 #91

he gets upset when I criticize something to the right of me. CreekDog Sep 2013 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Sep 2013 #58

i`d walk out of any store where someone would openly carry madrchsod Sep 2013 #72

I would leave too and let them know why. NealK Sep 2013 #78

I live in Tennessee, where our lunatic General Assembly has passed cheapdate Sep 2013 #79

How would our guy handle "Oh, look, he DOES have a dick, I didn't see it at first, but it's right toby jo Sep 2013 #80

has that been known to kill a dozen people in minutes? CreekDog Sep 2013 #93

Thar she blows! The 231' foot Penis of Doom! Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #123

which is as seriously as anyone here should take any of your posts in this thread CreekDog Sep 2013 #139

You just keep tryin' and tryin' and tryin.' Well, try reading this: Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #146

I dunno. Guns I can see don't bother me that much. Recursion Sep 2013 #85

Pls see my post #87 below. That wouldn't bother you? AlinPA Sep 2013 #88

Keep in mind I grew up in a place where you'd see that most Saturdays Recursion Sep 2013 #90

shootings in this country are as rare as being struck by lightning while being eaten by a bear? CreekDog Sep 2013 #89

*Random mass shootings*, the kind where a person I don't know will sneak up and shoot me Recursion Sep 2013 #92

My OP didn't say mass, random shooting, don't play games with DUers here CreekDog Sep 2013 #97

No, actually, very few people are killed by strangers every year, which was my point Recursion Sep 2013 #98

Since we are talking about lightning. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #109

so you're limiting your stat to CCW's now? CreekDog Sep 2013 #138

You obviously grew up in a culture where guns were common ecstatic Sep 2013 #112

If someone walks into my local CVS drugstore holding a shotgun, I would do more than just "avoid". AlinPA Sep 2013 #87

Me too! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #104

If the gun was the only 'unusual' thing about them, then I'd go about my petronius Sep 2013 #108

The open carry crowd doesn't understand that they're slowly destroying what we love ecstatic Sep 2013 #110

Do you really feel pushed to "arm to the teeth" and "wear bullet proof vests?" Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Sep 2013 #127

How many times in your life have you been in a store and seen a person carrying a firearm openly? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #111

Deer season Recursion Sep 2013 #113

I supposed it's possible that I've seen them and just not cared or been alarmed. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #115

and this is relevant why? CreekDog Sep 2013 #118

I would get the hell out of that store as discretely and quickly as possible if I saw someone had a avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #125

You've got plenty of company, CreekDog. There's a streak of madness in America's makeup. Hekate Sep 2013 #129

I would be more likely to go to stores who post no guns on premises! B Calm Sep 2013 #133

no one open carries anywhere near where i live but i am with you on this. tk2kewl Sep 2013 #137

me too gopiscrap Sep 2013 #151