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longship

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106. Well, if he eats fish and eggs, he's not Vegan.

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 07:22 PM

Sep 2013

Myself. I'm from Terra, not Vega, apparently like Big Dawg, so I am not a Vegan either.

Like many Terrans, I am also an omnivore.

And I very much doubt that Big Dawg's health has anything to do with his Vegan diet -- especially since he is not apparently doing that.

I think it's what doctors have been saying for decades. Eat moderately with a diverse diet, get exercise, don't smoke, and if you drink, do so in moderation. The secret to good health is moderation, not a secret recipe or diet.

Bill Clinton is healthy today, not because he's Vegan (he isn't), but because he eats less, with more veggies, and is exercising more. That's the secret.

on edit: and if you are a vegetarian or a Vegan for any reason, good for you. I have no issue with people who choose a specific diet.

However, I have a big problem with Vegans who have been trumpeting Big Dawg's Vegan diet for some time as being responsible for his apparent good health when he isn't even a Vegan.

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Bill Clinton has become vegan, reversed his heart disease and is sharing his recipes! [View all] coldmountain Sep 2013 OP

Allowing for the fact that the perception of US Presidents may differ outside of the USA dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #1

Here's a link to the story, not to the Kos front page muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #2

He prefers to call it a "plant based diet." GreenEyedLefty Sep 2013 #3

Vegans eat fish? nt B2G Sep 2013 #8

No, we don't. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #21

True, it makes him a pescetarian. N/T Revanchist Sep 2013 #33

Pescatarian here. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #39

Pescatarian here too. RebelOne Sep 2013 #53

I also have adopted a plant-based, whole food, low fat diet. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #40

That is what I say emsimon33 Sep 2013 #56

I will mark my second year as a chervilant Sep 2013 #4

Three weeks for me... a la izquierda Sep 2013 #6

Wow that's weird I've been one for about 3 weeks also. I started on Rosh Hashannah mucifer Sep 2013 #68

Most impressive! chervilant Sep 2013 #87

Me too whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #60

Backatcha! chervilant Sep 2013 #88

Mmm... sounds good! whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #89

I'd love to see the recipes in the Cooking & Baking Group! Lucinda Sep 2013 #82

Your wish chervilant Sep 2013 #90

Thankie! Lucinda Sep 2013 #111

I was moving to a plant based diet and I never felt satisfied and gained weight instead. dkf Sep 2013 #5

You probably weren't getting enough fat. athena Sep 2013 #13

and avocados. libdem4life Sep 2013 #24

There was quite a bit of olive oil actually and agave. dkf Sep 2013 #36

Maybe you're at a healthy weight already? athena Sep 2013 #42

Oh that does look interesting. dkf Sep 2013 #43

Best advice I got was to eat every two to four hours or whenever you're hungry. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #22

Believe me I was doing that. dkf Sep 2013 #44

I tried it for a few days and got the runs. . . B Calm Sep 2013 #7

He still eats salmon and eggs, so he is neither vegan nor vegetarian. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #9

Pesky facts! bunnies Sep 2013 #11

So what. athena Sep 2013 #14

It sounds like he eats very healthily. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #19

He never called himself vegan. Did you actually watch the video? athena Sep 2013 #30

I completely agree. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #23

Like me, he DOES eat a vegan diet most of the time. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #41

For real. Some people need better hobbies. Myrina Sep 2013 #45

The obsession with terminology. athena Sep 2013 #50

When I worked a catering for him he wasn't actually referred to as a vegan. xmas74 Sep 2013 #109

Google Dr Dean Ornish econoclast Sep 2013 #10

You can eat FAR more fat than that and stay heart-healthy NickB79 Sep 2013 #35

Being as I'm a long haul trucker, Hardlyaround Sep 2013 #12

Your steak and chicken wouldn't taste so good if you knew what they went through. athena Sep 2013 #15

I know exactly what farm animals go through and my steak and chicken are still tasty. Hardlyaround Sep 2013 #18

Being vegan is not about going to restaurants. athena Sep 2013 #32

I'm not here to start an argument. Hardlyaround Sep 2013 #34

She clearly knows what's best for you. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #37

Naw. I love the nomadic lifestyle of long haul trucking. Hardlyaround Sep 2013 #47

Really RobinA Sep 2013 #63

And? Hardlyaround Sep 2013 #64

I'm with you brother ... But.... econoclast Sep 2013 #16

I have no problem with someone's choice of lifestyle. Hardlyaround Sep 2013 #25

OMG Hardlyaround Skittles Sep 2013 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #83

it was quite the hoot Skittles Sep 2013 #85

I follow Mark Bittman's "Vegan Before 6" plan. Love it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #17

I've never heard about the "Vegan Before 6" plan Lisa D Sep 2013 #86

It's a great diet. It really is. You're so welcome!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #93

Oh BTW.... Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #20

And the hell with the cruelty I guess. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #26

Do you wear leather shoes? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #27

No. I wear no leather. Why would you think I did? HERVEPA Sep 2013 #28

my guess... LanternWaste Sep 2013 #48

That carnivore poster would be a lot better with phone numbers for local cardiologists. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #29

it makes a wonderfully petulant point LanternWaste Sep 2013 #49

i don't know any true carnivores ... i know lots of omnivores though. Scout Sep 2013 #59

Hee! Brickbat Sep 2013 #95

Good for him, vegetarian cooking and eating is one of the joys of my life. Zorra Sep 2013 #31

that sounds good! dana_b Sep 2013 #52

He's not a vegan. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #38

Clinton didn't SAY he was a vegan, the OP did. Myrina Sep 2013 #46

good for him!! dana_b Sep 2013 #51

I heard he followed a macrobiotic diet graywarrior Sep 2013 #54

I switched to a plant-based low fat diet after attending a McDougall seminar emsimon33 Sep 2013 #55

I don't think he looks healthy Skittles Sep 2013 #57

Give that man a porterhouse (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #58

I've been thinking the same thing for a while, SheilaT Sep 2013 #61

I agree wih this post Champion Jack Sep 2013 #65

I agree with you, too. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #76

No one should tell you how to eat. upaloopa Sep 2013 #77

66 myself, and very healthy, although likewise a little overweight. SheilaT Sep 2013 #79

It's not "feeling a need" Boudica the Lyoness Sep 2013 #80

Wow. chervilant Sep 2013 #92

You might want to read the book SheilaT Sep 2013 #94

Is that author a scientist? chervilant Sep 2013 #97

Well, he's a primatologist. SheilaT Sep 2013 #98

Interesting... chervilant Sep 2013 #104

The book is absolutely fascinating. SheilaT Sep 2013 #105

I noticed the other night when he was on Letterman... grasswire Sep 2013 #62

i think he always had the shaky hand thing JI7 Sep 2013 #78

You Beat Me RobinA Sep 2013 #66

maybe not Big Mac, but how about a Grilled Chicken Sandwich or TUrkey Burger JI7 Sep 2013 #75

You have to consider his age. He is 67 years old. mucifer Sep 2013 #69

being 67 does not necessarily mean looking feeble Skittles Sep 2013 #70

67 is not that old , isn't Joe Biden older ? JI7 Sep 2013 #73

I think Bill Clinton looks healthy. I think he looks about right for his age. mucifer Sep 2013 #74

It is not that old. I wish I was 67 again. I am 74. RebelOne Sep 2013 #84

I've spoken to him up close both "before" and "after" DFW Sep 2013 #71

That is what I have been thinking whenever I have seen him lately too Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #81

He and I had the same cardiac near-miss DFW Sep 2013 #72

I just wish vegan diets tasted good and felt satisfying. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #91

Learn how to cook. n/t flvegan Sep 2013 #99

Fair enough, but its definitely more difficult without meat, cheese and eggs. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #100

Not if one knows how to cook. flvegan Sep 2013 #102

microwave? aikoaiko Sep 2013 #107

Both. flvegan Sep 2013 #110

My BIL changed his diet about a year ago and has a ton more energy, feels healthier, Brickbat Sep 2013 #96

I am LWolf Sep 2013 #101

My husband switched to a more veg-dominated diet, and his blood pressure is WAY down, consistently! calimary Sep 2013 #103

Well, if he eats fish and eggs, he's not Vegan. longship Sep 2013 #106

I worked a catering at a school where he spoke about CCI. xmas74 Sep 2013 #108