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go west young man

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316. Totally agree....

Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:35 PM

Oct 2013

the major change happened during the 2008 elections when the centrists clamored all over the site realizing DU was the best place for democratic political discussion. It was good to have them onboard at first. Prior to that DU was more a place for true liberals and Howard Dean style dems so we all had more in common back then. Since then it has become quite watered down, impolite, non progressive and centrist. In my mind DU is the new status quo and ironically these groups who work to limit the abilities of people they disagree with are just gatekeepers of the same mentality as RW's.

True liberals welcome all debate and see it as a challenge. It makes one dig deeper and think harder. Simply banning people you disagree with or find annoying is similar to using a sword when one can pick up a pen. The challenge is to debate them on the merits of their argument and back it up with sourced information without being rude. That is where true liberal democratic maturity comes in play. DFK never irritated me and I can't understand why others here want all their points sounded back to them with kudos. Party has replaced ideology here in a similar way that it did with the republicans. The real goal should always be a better progressive movement that effects real change and makes lives brighter.

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I'm Sorry... But For Some Reason... I Cannot Dance On DFK's Grave... [View all] WillyT Oct 2013 OP

+1 Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #1

fuck dfk JI7 Oct 2013 #2

Yeah... Some Of Us Get A Lot Of That... WillyT Oct 2013 #3

considering some of the stuff you post JI7 Oct 2013 #4

don't let them get you down WillyT. People would like to everyone to think that this site is only liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #8

I just have to take frequent breaks now and again. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #13

dfk was a right winger JI7 Oct 2013 #15

Yes. But it was interesting to argue with him. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #163

dfk was supposed to be a liberal? SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #22

Many of us liberals have been falsely labeled libertarians. You don't know if dfk was a right liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #26

I think believing that women ought to pay more for healthcare then men makes you a right winger. SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #30

There's actually quite a handful of those. I quit arguing with them because it was so pointless. Hekate Oct 2013 #121

And isn't it so right wing to be concerned that you might be helping someone else? treestar Oct 2013 #247

i am always amazed by that kind of thinking. I don't have kids and never have but I pay for roguevalley Oct 2013 #228

zimmerman supporter, anti muslim, tax cuts for wealthy , "we need rand paul" etc JI7 Oct 2013 #37

Wow. pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #116

I argued with him a lot. His economic ideas were conservative in general, but not always. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #164

FYI: dkf is a woman. nt tblue37 Oct 2013 #233

fyi: dkf CLAIMED to be a woman. Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #234

Yeah--I see what you mean. tblue37 Oct 2013 #365

Single payer advocates say we all pay into the same pool at the same price. ZomBoy Oct 2013 #241

That is not what typical single payer advocates say muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #277

dfk was not a liberal. S/he was a right wing troll. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #56

That is not true...its just some are on the far far left...do not realize how far they are... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #64

very good point. a person could be 7 out of 10 on "liberal purity" scorecard Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #104

Describe this 'far, far left' in terms of issues please. Throwing out these vague sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #223

Well what do YOU consider left of YOU? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #361

Than is not an answer. I am for issues that make this a better society sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #375

+1000000000000 treestar Oct 2013 #248

No that is not what I am saying at all... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #362

on what planet do people think this is a site for moderate Democrats dlwickham Oct 2013 #212

+1 villager Oct 2013 #216

yes though DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #407

gotta point gopiscrap Oct 2013 #54

Seriously. We don't need that RW crap here. As someone else in this thread said, if you want Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #112

I do not understand how with that attitude you can claim to be "politically liberal". rhett o rick Oct 2013 #180

very simple, i think that right wing asshole should get govt help if they don't have money JI7 Oct 2013 #184

Do you consider yourself open-minded and able to argue with those that may not rhett o rick Oct 2013 #187

if they are right wingers they aren't allowed to post here, if the admin change their minds JI7 Oct 2013 #193

But it looked like you were disparaging WillyT in post #4. Do you think he is a "right-wing rhett o rick Oct 2013 #267

I guess I am hopeless. I always think about hungry children. Lefty, rightie centrist children roguevalley Oct 2013 #229

Classy as usual! nt Logical Oct 2013 #202

I certainly don't like where it seems to be heading... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #5

Agreed... WillyT Oct 2013 #7

It's always good to see you WillyT ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #14

:) WillyT Oct 2013 #294

I don't think that is something to worry about... Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #23

I have done two terms on MIRT and served as a moderator on DU2. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #35

agree Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #46

I figure the default choice on a jury is to let the post remain. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #171

there was a thread a while back where some outed themselves as rapists. they didn't get banned. roguevalley Oct 2013 #230

here's the way I see it Screaming, and I'm on MIRT also steve2470 Oct 2013 #95

"Stay civil, watch your words and you have nothing to fear." That is how it should be, but that is n ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #107

Oh I see...when YOU got affordable healthcare...that made all the difference... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #101

good point. I have employer coverage and probably will until that regime falls apart Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #109

THAT is exactly it! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #128

You have completely missed the point. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #111

Horrible response????? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #129

It was a shortened version of this: ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #139

NO I just pointed out that YOU were being cruel is all... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #154

Sorry VR, but I disagree. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #160

that had nothing to do with ACA. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #162

I don't do manufactured arguments and fake affronts, VR. It's no longer part of my DU experience. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #165

Yeah I wanted Single Payer too...I had it as a child of a career military father.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #172

I don't really need any applause. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #178

Perhaps I feel the opposite...and I get it. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #189

To answer your question, much more generously than it was. Demit Oct 2013 #371

Very nicely done, ScreamingMeemie. I think most Progressives here understood your sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #224

Thank you sabrina 1, for understanding. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #225

I understand exactly what you are saying, I agree with you and I found that response to you Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #288

Thank you Blue... sometimes it is difficult to even try to get along with people. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #408

Half the time, the doctrinal purists here don't even take the time BlueStreak Oct 2013 #45

I watched that happen to Octafish the other day ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #84

Yes. enlightenment Oct 2013 #108

Snarf trumad Oct 2013 #6

Well Yeah... You Would... WillyT Oct 2013 #10

Not bad for someone who has come back from the DEAD. madinmaryland Oct 2013 #19

why change avatar? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #57

Because his "beloved" Phins are going to lose to Will Pitt's Cheatriots. madinmaryland Oct 2013 #97

is that a bet going on? I Must have missed it. :D Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #100

They've been doing it for as long as I have been here. madinmaryland Oct 2013 #117

ahhhh....that's cool Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #118

"Just change your fucking avatar already." WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #227

The persona was named "dkf" Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #9

See... That's The Beauty Of It... WillyT Oct 2013 #16

so you think DU should allow right wingers anyone else to post on here, that it should be open JI7 Oct 2013 #20

That does appear to be so, doesn't it? Whisp Oct 2013 #33

Yep and it's "centrists" who should be banned treestar Oct 2013 #246

I doubt that's what he thinks, but nice try. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #191

Sure, I am not afraid to defend the liberal position against anyone. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #367

bye trumad Oct 2013 #24

I love you man, in a good way, that site no longer exists. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #28

Republicans are not welcome here. SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #29

I am not sure if we are at the same site nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #32

They are the loudest ones. They like to make it seem like they are the majority. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #36

Yup nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #47

and dfk was one of them and has finally been banned JI7 Oct 2013 #41

There are plenty of "pro-business" Democrats who oppose labor rights and support entitlement cuts. SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #55

You are new nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #59

Not as new as you would think. SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #133

Alas I saw her as one more of the conservadems nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #149

those people aren't Democrats TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #232

Oh we do not treestar Oct 2013 #249

But I bet you love you some Gen Clapper and Gen Alexander. They are Republicans. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #192

You bet wrong, then. SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #204

Right Nation is better than ChazII Oct 2013 #358

I have no interest in arguing with trolls. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #78

How wonderful it would be to be in a sight where everyone loved you and agreed with you and rhett o rick Oct 2013 #194

And yet, it's consistent with the TOS of this site. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #195

There's still a limit on who comes here treestar Oct 2013 #354

I totally agree that right wingers are not welcome here. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #370

I 100% agree with you. I was often frustrated with my discussions wit dkf rhett o rick Oct 2013 #185

Thank You For That !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #391

It seems to me that the tools of debate go west young man Oct 2013 #264

I'm amazed at some of the new members and their understanding... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #304

Totally agree.... go west young man Oct 2013 #316

Exactly. Very well said. If you cannot discuss or defend a position... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #368

"True liberals welcome all debate and see it as a challenge. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #374

Sadly there is actual discussion on FB nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #389

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #392

Very well said. True liberals welcome debate. That's why I am here in DU, to debate. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #396

Except this is Democratic Underground Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #266

+1 nt Zorra Oct 2013 #310

I understand and respect what you're saying, Willy steve2470 Oct 2013 #269

Except that the place has nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #293

"When this is targeted for ridicule by our local bulles." Brickbat Oct 2013 #313

I've trashed numerous grave dancing threads, simply on principle. 1000words Oct 2013 #11

I can :) Marrah_G Oct 2013 #12

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #17

^This post right here is exactly what I am talking about. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #42

Yep. /nt Marr Oct 2013 #156

Yes, that's exactly it. n/t QC Oct 2013 #296

Are you trying to accuse WillyT of flogging right-wing talking points? marmar Oct 2013 #44

Yup nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #49

Plus fearmongering flamingdem Oct 2013 #50

I don't mind the ban. I do care about Orwellian types like you who are trying to use this PRR DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #67

+1 ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #70

+2 AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #125

+1 Marr Oct 2013 #158

+ 1000 n/t sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #219

Orwellian types? treestar Oct 2013 #251

Alert on the post if you want to. I said what I meant to say. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #314

And you are just name calling treestar Oct 2013 #318

LOL !!! - "...you don't care whether your post is hide-able or not." WillyT Oct 2013 #393

The person says they don't care if they are being rude or disruptive treestar Oct 2013 #418

Wrong post. The hide-able post has been hidden as it should have been. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #405

No it hasn't, it is still there treestar Oct 2013 #419

+1, me too, boy howdy yes! Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #290

Amen. n/t QC Oct 2013 #299

I agree. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #323

Exactly. Puglover Oct 2013 #421

. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #424

WillyT NEVER, NEVER flogs RW talking points. That poster is a linchpin of the DU Left. bluestate10 Oct 2013 #77

Well, we disagree. ucrdem Oct 2013 #92

Bull, which RW talking points have you seen being flogged? You have been doing little other Dragonfli Oct 2013 #152

I vote for the CC nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #157

I am curious as to how the poster can defend an obvious lie, likely there will simply be no answer Dragonfli Oct 2013 #168

Nothing here surprises me any more nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #173

Is supporting the Patriot Act a right-wing stand? How about supporting Gen Clapper rhett o rick Oct 2013 #272

ucrdem is one of the most pro-NSA, anti-Greenwald and Snowden DUers there is muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #286

Yep +1 n/t whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #329

Then you won't have a problem proving some examples as sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #340

Willy T: "In Some Ways... We Shouldn't Be Surprised... Barack Obama WAS Tutored By Joe Lieberman..." ucrdem Oct 2013 #346

p.s. Recommendations: ucrdem Oct 2013 #348

Those are facts. You said 'right wing talking points'. Dems sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #350

If you don't see the very serious problem here I can't help you. nt ucrdem Oct 2013 #353

I do see a serious problem here but it's not with Democrats like sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #355

He can't answer you now. n/t QC Oct 2013 #364

WillyT is not a rightwinger. Th1onein Oct 2013 #134

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #142

I don't think you understood what I was saying. Th1onein Oct 2013 #203

The poster knows that, but it's par for the smear course...... marmar Oct 2013 #143

+1 ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #146

Posters can dress themselves up in whatever hilariously ill-fitting labels they want ucrdem Oct 2013 #153

Like I said, I think that DKF might have been posting on a rightwing forum and got her posts mixed Th1onein Oct 2013 #206

Sanctimony is distasteful, chervilant Oct 2013 #255

Who is being sanctimonious? Th1onein Oct 2013 #334

You concluded chervilant Oct 2013 #415

Maybe they do view it like that, but many don't. WillyT is simply being kind. Lots of liberals are Th1onein Oct 2013 #416

Would that they extend their kindness chervilant Oct 2013 #417

I agree with you, absolutely, chervilant. Th1onein Oct 2013 #422

Wow! trumad Oct 2013 #268

Well that excuse might pop to mind JTFrog Oct 2013 #302

Trumad, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Th1onein Oct 2013 #337

Feeling like time is wasted on these 2 dimensional purity posts. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #205

+ a gazillion chervilant Nov 2013 #428

Seems to me Willy isn't worried at all about being conspicuous. Please explain what you mean sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #226

DKF wasn't worried either. ucrdem Oct 2013 #312

Not a valid comparison whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #332

It appears to me to be a not so clever threat of PPR. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #333

My advice.. don't even think about dancing there... Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #18

LOL. And you had to start a new thread to make that known? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21

Indeed. 1000words Oct 2013 #25

"Some folks are too predictable." Skip Intro Oct 2013 #39

and some folks are conspicuously absent... Whisp Oct 2013 #291

I am no saint, I danced in the same way she did arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #31

Gravedancing is petty Skip Intro Oct 2013 #34

LOL Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #52

That's deep. n/t Skip Intro Oct 2013 #62

Another right wing troll down, more still to go. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #79

Hey, can you send me a copy of that list? Skip Intro Oct 2013 #82

Anyone who thinks spouting right wing talking points is injecting reality. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #110

I wuv creekjgod! Rex Oct 2013 #126

LOL! RetroLounge Oct 2013 #136

Hi there! Rex Oct 2013 #377

... RetroLounge Oct 2013 #388

I missed that one Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #401

Poor reading comprehension is a problem. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #155

The list includes everyone not in the BOG. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #321

Fuck Ron Paul. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #387

are you worried about that list? CreekDog Nov 2013 #430

you would Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #60

What are you trying to say? n/t Skip Intro Oct 2013 #63

See post #155. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #280

This is hardly "grave dancing". PPR is hardly death. jazzimov Oct 2013 #38

There are those who rise from the grave flamingdem Oct 2013 #51

BEST RESPONSE IN THIS THREAD CatWoman Oct 2013 #53

Disagreed. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #58

However, the "issue at hand" is ALWAYS going to be jazzimov Oct 2013 #170

If it stayed on the celebration, that would be awesome. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #175

Exactly. dkf can post whatever garbage he or she wants. backscatter712 Oct 2013 #88

THANK YOU! jazzimov Oct 2013 #174

There is always shame in celebrating a negative action. zeemike Oct 2013 #196

Ahh yes, your rationalization is the key to your happiness. It's grave dancing and it's childish.nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #325

"Will our government become just one big entitlement program and nothing else? " ProSense Oct 2013 #40

You know, Prosense, at times I've been critical of you in the past... SolutionisSolidarity Oct 2013 #75

Let Me Give That A Try... WillyT Oct 2013 #395

It was not a "Fine Moment" for DU. Earl G said: "Enough is Enough" KoKo Oct 2013 #43

I've only been posting actively again from June/July. dkf was HORRIBLE Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #66

Man... DU Poster 'Message Auto-Removed' Is On A Roll Today !!! ProSense Oct 2013 #48

Probably because DU Poster "Message Auto-Removed" is a snapshot of ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #69

"I don't care that dkf was banned." ProSense Oct 2013 #71

I truly hope you read the rest of my message and let it sink in. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #73

I read it. A troll being banned and people being glad about it isn't that deep. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #83

It becomes apparent that you did not read it. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #87

It can't become "apparent" because I did ProSense Oct 2013 #99

Please don't accuse me of hypocrisy when I don't show up on that thread. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #120

I didn't accuse you of anything. "Hyprocrisy ensues" meant in this thread. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #122

I will accept that as the closest thing to an apology that I will get. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #124

ah, the old Steven Colbert line of reasoning. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #137

You have a wonderful evening as well, Pretzel_Warrior. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #141

no hard feelings. I like you. I really do. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #144

For what it's worth, I agree with you, ScreamingMeemie Th1onein Oct 2013 #145

If she doesn't have her Facebook page set up like healthcare.gov, BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #61

I seldom agree with you, but on this, I do. I don't see the logic of beating down bluestate10 Oct 2013 #65

catharsis. and there is something fun about dragging out all their sins when they are toast Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #68

Were there any gravedancing threads Union Scribe Oct 2013 #72

I have no idea because I took a major break when that happened Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #93

I don't remember if there was an actual gravedancing thread, but QC Oct 2013 #311

I guess I am the type that never punch at a rear view mirror. It is better to look forward bluestate10 Oct 2013 #89

I'm sure we'll move on for the most part after today Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #98

Who's DFK and what killed him or her? nt Deep13 Oct 2013 #74

Do a DU Search for "dfk" he/she's posts are pretty current if you even KoKo Oct 2013 #80

Did she or he die, or just banned from posting? nt Deep13 Oct 2013 #105

You've been here on DU Awhile...so you know that this is revoking of KoKo Oct 2013 #113

I guessed. I didn't know. nt Deep13 Oct 2013 #182

I had many disagreements with dfk but s/he was always polite sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #76

Yup nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #81

The only question is who will get purged. There are several natural cliches on DU, bluestate10 Oct 2013 #106

I am doing my analysis off site nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #119

You are absolutely right about the usual targets, I am getting tired of the bullies here Dragonfli Oct 2013 #183

I am worn down actually and they are very well protected nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #188

But they cant overcome "ignore". Hang in there. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #326

Oh yes they have nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #327

"There are many on this board right now who support Bush policies and even defend them." zappaman Oct 2013 #85

Bush supported the Patriot Act and domestic spying. The right-wing still supports the Patriot rhett o rick Oct 2013 #317

yeah but zappaman Oct 2013 #376

Well they were around on DU2 and DU1...but I think we called them trolls? Rex Oct 2013 #378

Yeah, but here? zappaman Oct 2013 #381

Dam that looks good and I just ate lunch. Rex Oct 2013 #383

Yup zappaman Oct 2013 #384

Good old fashion hug! Rex Oct 2013 #385

Dont you support the Patriot Act? That's a Bush policy. Dont you support domestic rhett o rick Oct 2013 #390

No. zappaman Oct 2013 #402

+1 ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #90

Why was it OK to dance ProSense Oct 2013 #102

good point Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #115

not only that but many called for anyone who posts in Obama group to be banned JI7 Oct 2013 #140

"many called for anyone who posts in Obama group to be banned" Really? rhett o rick Oct 2013 #331

So do you approve of grave dancing or not? nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #330

That's entirely different, you see.... Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #382

And Prosense for the win Number23 Oct 2013 #399

That thread Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #413

I agree that she was the consummate professional. Zorra Oct 2013 #305

No problem, Zorra, I understand. I agree she was a pro sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #345

... Zorra Oct 2013 #356

dkf was NOT polite, look at what she said about Trayvon Martin, Muslims,... CreekDog Nov 2013 #429

It's not dead, it's a zombie that will pop back up wit a new name. we can do it Oct 2013 #86

Admit it, WillyT fadedrose Oct 2013 #91

Oh Alright... I Admit It... WillyT Oct 2013 #397

Surprised this got 7 recs SamYeager Oct 2013 #94

I'm surprised it didn't get more. This is a compassionate OP, something sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #123

That thread ProSense Oct 2013 #132

That was not grave dancing, did I call that person names, attack sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #159

A thread titled: Posting Privileges Revoked is "grave dancing" ProSense Oct 2013 #161

No, it was not celebrating. It was a reminder that sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #179

A troll is a troll. It was grave dancing any way you slice it. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #186

Like I said, not a very good effort at playing 'gotcha'. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #197

I hope you are being genuine. Because that means you are way more forgiving Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #138

I believe in telling the truth, I don't believe in the Death Penalty eg sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #148

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #209

nicely done. 1000words Oct 2013 #217

+1 Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #150

:loveya: WillyT Oct 2013 #398

Love you too, Willy sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #406

You are a better person than I. Rex Oct 2013 #96

He or she is not dead. roody Oct 2013 #103

Dkf was a RW troll, willy scheming daemons Oct 2013 #114

I just went over there, and I need a shower Hekate Oct 2013 #169

Yep. You can't get much farther right than Wall St. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #214

Not the first time grantcart Oct 2013 #339

For quite a few people, it's obvious that this is the best thing that has happened in their lives Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #127

yeah. no mischaracterization of posters AT ALL with that statement Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #130

Another shocker BootinUp Oct 2013 #131

Who? Orrex Oct 2013 #135

Oh please excuse the bad form of it. Chan790 Oct 2013 #147

I expect some here to dance if nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #151

I know your name, but I don't know what I'd be dancing for. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #166

I like your style. Too many folks holding grudges, keeping score. 1000words Oct 2013 #176

Thank you. Life is too short. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #207

well, then maybe you can empty your bladder on his tombstone....... lastlib Oct 2013 #167

I can Omaha Steve Oct 2013 #177

I'm a little confused by this banning MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #181

The obituary said 'Enough is Enough' leftstreet Oct 2013 #190

You labeled her posts pretty well, I nearly always disagreed with her. Dragonfli Oct 2013 #198

+1 1000words Oct 2013 #200

Exactly leftstreet Oct 2013 #201

Since I don't read DU 24/7, I might have missed things MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #199

Well I don't get it ether. zeemike Oct 2013 #208

Not being the only one - is not a reason not to ban them Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #235

When Better Believe It was PPR'ed by Skinner, he said, "Enough is Enough" too. n/t FSogol Oct 2013 #239

Your last sentence: EXACTLY. DKF inspired debate... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #298

Your piece of brain missing is misplaced with mine nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #210

Well, i'm a *bit* less confused now MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #215

this was the straw that broke admin's back: steve2470 Oct 2013 #220

Wow.. sendero Oct 2013 #238

Wonders never cease nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #301

The member did not appear to be a Democrat BainsBane Oct 2013 #324

I was hoping you'd post in this thread. Thank you. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #336

nice to see a voice of reason on this dlwickham Oct 2013 #211

I am. She was smart, and very skilled. "Positively Wall Street". Zorra Oct 2013 #213

she was the best troll I've ever seen here steve2470 Oct 2013 #218

Yes. The first time I got into it with her years ago, I could not believe that anyone Zorra Oct 2013 #297

Sorry to say it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #303

I'm kind of distressed about some of the left leaning folks who I almost always Zorra Oct 2013 #315

You do know the post that triggered the ban was quoting the nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #320

What I'm saying is that the information originally came from one of the most RW sources Zorra Oct 2013 #341

I expect a purge to come, and it will not be people like her nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #343

Yes, the ACA website has some problems. But it does not have the problems Zorra Oct 2013 #363

I guess I will stop reading the LA Times now nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #366

what a joke. pathetic. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #414

Sadly, right wing trolls just don't stand out as much as they used to. QC Oct 2013 #328

Nor, apparently, spell her handle correctly? (nt) Recursion Oct 2013 #221

DKF made one fatal error Prism Oct 2013 #222

For some, pecwae Oct 2013 #236

Dkf's "error" was being a RW troll scheming daemons Oct 2013 #242

I didn't buy anything Prism Oct 2013 #253

The President gets so much criticism on DU treestar Oct 2013 #250

he/she (I never could figure that one out) was right about the NSA, but wrong and right winger-ish quinnox Oct 2013 #231

Grave dancing is indicative of an otherwise shallow life. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #237

This thread cracks me up... trumad Oct 2013 #240

Dkf and his buddies on conservative cave are laughing at this thread scheming daemons Oct 2013 #244

Interesting that they are more protective of a right winger treestar Oct 2013 #245

Um, there's plenty of being suckered on all sides. Hissyspit Oct 2013 #403

Here's why it should, ProSense Oct 2013 #308

Well that's a surprise treestar Oct 2013 #243

Disagreed with DFK on some things, but never felt she was malicious or played for the other team. leveymg Oct 2013 #252

Come on--- trumad Oct 2013 #258

I read the last post, and agree it's over the top, particularly the headline. But, in itself leveymg Oct 2013 #263

Shit--just do a DU search--type in dkf and have fun. trumad Oct 2013 #265

I went through 4 pages of her diary and see nothing there that meets the troll definition. leveymg Oct 2013 #271

Really---that's your comeback? trumad Oct 2013 #274

It's not a comeback. I'm not emotionally invested in the outcome. leveymg Oct 2013 #282

What's Ironic... Is... WillyT Oct 2013 #281

Here's what I think happened. leveymg Oct 2013 #309

questioning whether it was really rape ? defending zimmerman ? JI7 Oct 2013 #394

So centrist party hacks - should they be banned? treestar Oct 2013 #352

I'm afraid we'll all end up banning each other. leveymg Oct 2013 #386

250+ replys, for a well hidden troll? DiverDave Oct 2013 #254

They didn't die, they got banned from a message board on the internet. eShirl Oct 2013 #256

I dunno if "banned" is the correct term. ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #432

I think the message is that all DUers are expected to be supportive of Pres. Obama to some extent. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #257

Especially this last month trumad Oct 2013 #260

What do you think dfk was trying to say in this thread from the other day ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #262

The Righties have gone more bat shit over ACA than any other issue that I can remember. trumad Oct 2013 #270

Zimmerman apologist, anti- "ground zero" mosque arguer, birther appeaser... demmiblue Oct 2013 #259

Here's the link trumad Oct 2013 #261

It's a link to an article in the Village Voice (hardly RW) that asked that very question. leveymg Oct 2013 #273

Please try to understand trumad Oct 2013 #275

I am trying to understand all sides in this, but the point is, there seems to be more than one side leveymg Oct 2013 #278

There isn't all sides... trumad Oct 2013 #279

Everyone here is part of the community and we ALL define what's acceptable leveymg Oct 2013 #285

She managed to stay polite and on issue treestar Oct 2013 #349

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2013 #306

Not acting like an adolescent bully is a good thing. LWolf Oct 2013 #276

I'll do it for you. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #283

The ultimate dance vid for those Special Occasions: Whisp Oct 2013 #307

omg I loved that!!!! Marrah_G Oct 2013 #369

One of my all time favourites for a pick me up. Whisp Oct 2013 #372

I am sorry for not knowing, edhopper Oct 2013 #284

Agreed. 99Forever Oct 2013 #287

I have already made provisions for a nice, level dance floor on my grave. Vinnie From Indy Oct 2013 #289

None of it matters Inkfreak Oct 2013 #292

You are wrong nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #295

Dkf wasn't a liberal dem.... So your anecdote doesn't apply scheming daemons Oct 2013 #319

dfk was an inconsistent contruct, a fictional creation who could not even keep their own Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #300

There are a lot of other cool kids who should see the ziggy. Octafish Oct 2013 #322

A few points DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2013 #335

Willy, I thank you for this thread!! I read it after I finished my grave dance.nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #338

Yes it is an epic in its own right. grantcart Oct 2013 #344

I am not surprised at the cort�ge. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #347

No but the innocence of a few reminds me of Lassie, grantcart Oct 2013 #351

I know, I know...."what do you mean dfk was a Zimmerman apologist? She was soooooo msanthrope Oct 2013 #357

What do you mean that Lassie in the Miller family is not the same as the Martin family? grantcart Oct 2013 #359

Nor am I. But the folks who are thrashing in this thread but who danced with joy when Lozo Number23 Oct 2013 #400

It's astonishing to see Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #404

"You simply can't have an honest discussion with people like this" Number23 Oct 2013 #411

I was "giddy" in neither thread. I hate these threads because it is typically ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #410

And you are...?? Number23 Oct 2013 #412

"And I am" none of your business. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #420

Yeah, you think "so little" of this stuff you've probably posted damn near a dozen damn Number23 Oct 2013 #425

The supposition that got him tombstoned didn't make any sense DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2013 #342

I can, and I'm not sorry a bit LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #360

You'd dance if part of his or her schtick was supporting Obama. great white snark Oct 2013 #373

Why do you feel the need to apologize? n/t whopis01 Oct 2013 #379

That person may be gone, but there's already another who has picked up the torch notadmblnd Oct 2013 #380

Well I guess people can now go grab their notebooks and write that name down... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #409

dkf. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #423

Who is this DFK? I don't think I've ever applegrove Oct 2013 #426

That's okay. Many of us will dance a little extra so you don't have to!! OregonBlue Oct 2013 #427

you don't even know their screename, what's your opinion on this topic worth? CreekDog Nov 2013 #431