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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
36. I Would Just Like A Tiny Bit Of Commitment...
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 01:37 AM
Nov 2013


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JFK - Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party Nomination
September 14, 1960

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What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

But first, I would like to say what I understand the word "Liberal" to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a "Liberal," and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.

In short, having set forth my view -- I hope for all time -- two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state, I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo:

I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.

I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.

Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends...

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More: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/jfk-nyliberal/



Where I grew up in Connecticut, we had a name for Reagan Democrats. Chan790 Nov 2013 #1
The only thing more contemptable than a Teabagger... 99Forever Nov 2013 #2
I guess I'd be OK with actual centrists Doctor_J Nov 2013 #3
I'm going to borrow your list. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #33
I guess being against compulsory pregnancy and for a $9.00 minimum wage offsets the other stuff Doctor_J Nov 2013 #58
And that is just on Democratic Underground. RC Nov 2013 #55
Horse-fucking-shit. riqster Nov 2013 #4
Ok... Question... Which Republican Ideas/Policies Do You Support ??? WillyT Nov 2013 #6
Nary a one. riqster Nov 2013 #13
Very Thoughtful Post... Thank You... But... WillyT Nov 2013 #16
I mentioned a variety of extremist tactics and stances, riqster Nov 2013 #20
It's the moderate centrists who "sit out" elections Fumesucker Nov 2013 #23
Stats please? riqster Nov 2013 #25
Eh, you're asking for evidence that you didn't bother to supply for your claim? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #32
And your answer is at least as surprising. riqster Nov 2013 #42
"Sitting out an election ...The extremist Left have done this in recent years" LondonReign2 Nov 2013 #43
This is a lie Doctor_J Nov 2013 #47
Self-contradictory. riqster Nov 2013 #60
From a thread by neverforget: 2010 midterm voter turnout: Who gets the blame? Independents myrna minx Nov 2013 #49
Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #54
And in 2000? riqster Nov 2013 #62
You had mentioned the "extremist Left" had done this in "recent years". myrna minx Nov 2013 #63
Tweaking a definition to suit one's purpose is not impressive, riqster Nov 2013 #64
I presented the evidence that demonstrated that the "left" didn't sit out the 2010 midterm. myrna minx Nov 2013 #65
And I never said "2010". riqster Nov 2013 #66
You said the "extremist left" sat out elections in recent years. The most recent contentious myrna minx Nov 2013 #67
"Extremist Leftists" - where? TBF Nov 2013 #61
I choose Barack Obama followed by Hillary! Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #5
So you're a republican? bigwillq Nov 2013 #9
If you consider Barack Obama and Hillary to be Republicans, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #12
Good to know bigwillq Nov 2013 #14
I aim to please! (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #15
at least they get a choice reddread Nov 2013 #7
The fact is people sometimes have a mix of views that are both left and right. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #8
Shit. We're Gonna Need a New Candidate for 2016!!! NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #10
I think that we're going to get played again. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #29
Sticks and stones, buddy. You don't get to label everyone that way. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #11
And I Keep Asking People To Identify The "Extreme" Left... None Have... WillyT Nov 2013 #18
Single payer insurance, fully funded education up to 16 years, cut the Defense Budget by half libdem4life Nov 2013 #19
As a Centrist, I support each and every item on your list. riqster Nov 2013 #21
It's a long way from a Reagan Democrat re OP and I see few of these values being supported these libdem4life Nov 2013 #22
Well, since I called BS on the OP definition, don't expect me to support or explain it. riqster Nov 2013 #24
How does that work? You're a "Truman Democrat" but a "Centrist". AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #30
Read my other comments to see why I define myself as I do. riqster Nov 2013 #41
If there is nobody to the Left of you....you are it! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #52
Actually, it's saying you are a Democrat in name only - DINO. closeupready Nov 2013 #17
Would you mind posting a clear list of the acceptable Democratic positions? brooklynite Nov 2013 #26
No, No... This Is Much Easier... Please Define The Republican Ideas/Policies You Embrace... WillyT Nov 2013 #27
There's miles of distance between me and Republican policies... brooklynite Nov 2013 #28
Things Have Changed... WillyT Nov 2013 #31
Horse-drawn carriages are traditional? n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #39
Just a couple of years ago, the 'Centrist' postition on marriage equality was 'Civl Unions are the Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #44
...and if Civil Unions had never been implemented, we might still be arguing about marriage equality brooklynite Nov 2013 #45
That's hilarious for so many reasons! First, we are still fighting for marriage equality, we are Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #50
So, as a "Centrist" are you in favor of: AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #34
Isn't this *exactly* what centrists believe? We have a drone-killing apologist who posts frequently Romulox Nov 2013 #46
Not if they vote Democratic. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #35
I Would Just Like A Tiny Bit Of Commitment... WillyT Nov 2013 #36
If you want commitment then get a dog aikoaiko Nov 2013 #37
Well You're Ok... It's The Rest Of Them I Worry About. WillyT Nov 2013 #38
I hear you. aikoaiko Nov 2013 #40
Oh boy another try at divisive posting! whistler162 Nov 2013 #48
SSDD FSogol Nov 2013 #59
Yippee....... Xolodno Nov 2013 #51
Purge....Just like the Republicans! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #53
They did... It just doesn't happen to conform to your personal gold standard... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #56
Quit sowing intra-Democratic warfare treestar Nov 2013 #57
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