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109. I moved out at 17 in 1966

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:34 AM

Mar 2014

However, I had graduated high school and had job skills. I went to work for a large private university as a secretary, which paid me a living wage, health benefits, and FREE college tuition (why I applied there). I worked days and went to college at night. No, I could not sign a lease agreement at 17, but I sublet from an older friend who went back to the UK on a sabbatical. So my parents could have kept me from doing this since I was still a Minor for another 4 years? I should have gone to court to be declared an Emancipated Minor? If anyone had told me what I was doing was ILLEGAL and that my parents could/MUST control my life and still live under their roof, I would have laughed. Actually, my parents would have laughed also. I would bet even a judge would laugh about that situation. My parents didn't say boo about me moving out at 17 because they knew it was time to let me go, even if I wasn't legally an adult yet.

As I said on another post, I think it is a very bad idea having kids turn 18 while still in high school. Creates far too many of these probelms.

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NJ teen loses first legal battle to make parents pay for education [View all] Logical Mar 2014 OP

After reading the whole article, she sounds like a spoiled brat that wants Lil Missy Mar 2014 #1

She doesn't want her cake. Dr. Strange Mar 2014 #9

This is why we need tort reform. Orrex Mar 2014 #25

I assume you mean tart reform. Dr. Strange Mar 2014 #31

The situation has many layers, yes. Orrex Mar 2014 #32

I suspect that when this is over... Dr. Strange Mar 2014 #65

TV story mentioned an Eating Disorder may be in play seleff Mar 2014 #71

My first thought too was that there's more background than curfew and boyfriend issues riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #80

And the article is wrong, they were asking for $654 a week snooper2 Mar 2014 #110

Jeez, that's more than my net pay per week. tammywammy Mar 2014 #116

If they really are telling her she can come home and that the college money is still there for her, NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #2

I don't agree with that. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #82

In NJ emancipation is only determined in court if necessary. LiberalFighter Mar 2014 #178

I don't understand how sueing to pay for school was even rational... aikoaiko Mar 2014 #3

The school has never wanted to TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #7

The only thing that's "telling us" ... surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #94

Good TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #4

I'm conflicted on this one. Xipe Totec Mar 2014 #5

I am more in the mode that at 18 she is an adult. She can follow the rule or get out. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #11

Same goes for the spouse... nt Xipe Totec Mar 2014 #22

It's not the same situation Major Nikon Mar 2014 #73

All you say is true by law. Because we made it so. And we can make it be some other way by law. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2014 #86

As is the case with any ethical responsibility Major Nikon Mar 2014 #142

restorative alimony??? proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #84

Please tell this indentured servant all about it. Xipe Totec Mar 2014 #87

I think why she left is important Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #91

CPS was called and they looked into her allegations, smokey775 Mar 2014 #135

Then she should go back home. DebJ Mar 2014 #118

If she wants to be independent she can get a job like so many her age are doing sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #121

"if the parents aren't there for the kid then the burden will fall on the tax payers" WHY? demwing Mar 2014 #122

'In New Jersey, emancipation is not contingent on becoming a legal adult at age 18 elleng Mar 2014 #6

That is beyond appalling. avebury Mar 2014 #28

The High School could sue the parents HockeyMom Mar 2014 #102

And I do think that they should pay the high school bill. nt avebury Mar 2014 #128

According to the court documents (Linked below) tammywammy Mar 2014 #138

It is probably too late to enroll in Public School HockeyMom Mar 2014 #140

Now probably. tammywammy Mar 2014 #143

Good. At least she can gradaute high school HockeyMom Mar 2014 #145

After reading the parents responses to the lawsuit tammywammy Mar 2014 #147

Read what I did at 17 HockeyMom Mar 2014 #150

You paid your parents rent which is completely different than here. tammywammy Mar 2014 #161

And from the court docs Rachel is in no way, shape or form "independent" like Hockeymom riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #164

Agreed. n/t tammywammy Mar 2014 #165

Please read the court docs. Rachel's behavior is waayyy beyond some minor curfew infractions riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #163

I did say in my post that I was courteous to my parents HockeyMom Mar 2014 #169

This girl is NOT courteous. Telling her mother she wants to "shit all over her face" riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #171

Please read the court documents and then come back and tell us that you still think the parents riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #149

She moved out of her parents' home. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #88

The family she is currently living with Jenoch Mar 2014 #8

The law of the instrument applies Major Nikon Mar 2014 #74

Do you onow how many lawyer jokes there are? Jenoch Mar 2014 #83

I didn't think she'd win. bravenak Mar 2014 #10

It sounds like she wants it for college or living expenses. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #13

I know how that feels. bravenak Mar 2014 #16

That's what I don't get: why screw her over on college now? knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #19

Somebody sounds jealous. bravenak Mar 2014 #23

I agree: emancipation's her best bet at this point. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #24

BTW, the parents said they were not withholding the college funds (which THEY paid for) dionysus Mar 2014 #27

Then what's the lawsuit about if she has access to the money? bravenak Mar 2014 #29

bitter feelings i think. spoiled kid vs asshole parents? only they themselves know for sure dionysus Mar 2014 #30

Sounds like it. bravenak Mar 2014 #33

and her friend's lawyer dad who realized he could pocket that college fund in legal fees... dionysus Mar 2014 #35

I hope he doesn't expect that 12 grand in legal fees. bravenak Mar 2014 #49

i can tell you one thing, we'll certainly hear about whatever happens, here. dionysus Mar 2014 #50

Ain't that the truth! bravenak Mar 2014 #54

and everyone will argue, as usual... dionysus Mar 2014 #56

Why should her parents hand her over the college money now? avebury Mar 2014 #34

Maybe there are other issues? knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #42

If you look at the pictures from the courtroom: avebury Mar 2014 #53

I found the pictures, and I don't see what you see. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #60

Having lots of supporters in the courtroom doesn't mean she's an angel Jake Stern Mar 2014 #70

No, of course not, but it is evidence to consider. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #151

Maybe the boyfriend is a criminal, a druggie, or perhaps there are other DebJ Mar 2014 #119

People have brought up the fact that she has been busted for underage ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #125

+1. Also the "curfew" issues might not be so simple either. riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #144

The court documents are linked to in this thread. tammywammy Mar 2014 #146

Oh wow. Thanks for that. Just as I suspected, Rachel is clearly in the wrong riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #148

Eating disorders rarely develop in isolation. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #153

Of course we don't have an inside look at their family but there's no denigration riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #167

We'll have to agree to disagree on the reading. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #174

Both parents responded that the abuse allegations were false. riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #177

I'm not saying she's not. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #181

Mostly due to R&J syndrome. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #152

She accused her parents of being abusive, smokey775 Mar 2014 #136

They shouldn't hand it over now. bravenak Mar 2014 #47

I would really like to know avebury Mar 2014 #55

I would too. bravenak Mar 2014 #58

The parents have said that she can have her college fund. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #90

The dad's final comment in the article is interesting. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #12

They should pay the private school bill only because they signed a contract. Then tell........ Logical Mar 2014 #14

That's what the parents and their lawyers are making sure the story is. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #17

Suing your parents is reason enough. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #18

The dad of the family she's living with is behind it. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #20

and getting suspended twice from school and underage drinking and elias7 Mar 2014 #72

No, I am a high school teacher. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #155

Given the shit she has done that you glossed over, maybe the parents are right joeglow3 Mar 2014 #76

Court documents are available Blue Diadem Mar 2014 #124

Thanks, I was trying to get more information. Xyzse Mar 2014 #129

Good Reason number 1 Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #78

Trying to survive on $650.00 a week with all other expenses paid seveneyes Mar 2014 #99

The daughter smeared them by claiming physical and psychological abuse. Beacool Mar 2014 #79

I am curious about the girl's grades. avebury Mar 2014 #92

That's not necessarily his final comment marshall Mar 2014 #98

True, but why even say that to a reporter? knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #156

I've seen her emails JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #111

Where did you see that? n/t tammywammy Mar 2014 #117

It is in the court documents ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #130

Thanks for the link! n/t tammywammy Mar 2014 #131

Posted about it here JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #134

I just finished reading the docs tammywammy Mar 2014 #137

I just finished reading the court documents, and the people I find fault with are the parents ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #133

Parent support requirements for financial aid are fairly brutal... hunter Mar 2014 #15

then she can go back home and follow the damn rules for a few more months TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #21

So...children have to earn their parent's beneficence? knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #26

they aren't fighting in court for the right to not take care of her TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #36

So far you've called this kid a "beast" and "monster." Lex Mar 2014 #37

Good catch. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #39

she is TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #48

nope, sorry Lex Mar 2014 #57

I'm thinking this reaction doesn't have much to do with her. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #62

+1 laundry_queen Mar 2014 #101

And individuals like you are what we call enablers joeglow3 Mar 2014 #106

I still call bullshit laundry_queen Mar 2014 #112

It sounds like the parents want her to come back joeglow3 Mar 2014 #114

Judge did no such thing. The ruling is just to keep everything the way it is. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #38

Not to mention that probably thru the years Lars39 Mar 2014 #44

Oh, you're right. She has to use them on her forms. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #46

Yep. Witholding info like that could screw her over til she's 25 Lars39 Mar 2014 #52

I thought people that wrote stuff like this were unhinged Authoritarians who do not take kindly Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #132

I looked at the photos and she didn't looked shocked or upset... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #41

Look at her eyes. She's holding it together barely. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #43

Exactly which photos show her barely holding it together? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #77

These knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #157

Wait a minute. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #85

In most of the photos she is positively beaming. DebJ Mar 2014 #120

As a parent, one owns up to the good and the bad, and it can't be about money. hunter Mar 2014 #59

Damn... little shit... evil... bloody... damn... JimDandy Mar 2014 #108

What the judge had to say: avebury Mar 2014 #40

Not exactly a professional choice of words. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #45

She may have overdone it by asking for so much money. bravenak Mar 2014 #61

You can't ask for random numbers in court, though. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #63

She is staying with a friend whose parents do not need her assistance paying their mortgage. bravenak Mar 2014 #66

I'm betting they're saying she can't stay at the friend's house. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #67

I might do her some good to work for a while bravenak Mar 2014 #69

Judges have to apply the law treestar Mar 2014 #105

Are you hinting that the judge and investigator were tainted? Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #81

No, not at all. They might have biases, though. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #159

Sounds like a layperson treestar Mar 2014 #104

It was the father that said that. Mariana Mar 2014 #123

Become an Emancipated Minor AnnieBW Mar 2014 #51

Apparently, it wouldn't apply to this year's FASFA. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #64

Just a heads up its FAFSA riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #68

Blargh. Sorry about that. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #160

Its awful. I hate financial stuff. Hang in there! riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #168

Me, too! Thanks. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #173

She cannot be an Emancipated Minor at 18 HockeyMom Mar 2014 #96

Well, fucking OBVIOUSLY... the Judge didn't hear BOTH sides of the story. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #75

Parenting fail DiverDave Mar 2014 #89

She has only 3 months until she graduates High School HockeyMom Mar 2014 #93

Actually, almost all states have a window of accepted ages joeglow3 Mar 2014 #107

Two kids both in Hgh School? HockeyMom Mar 2014 #113

As a parent, if you think the mental maturities of 14 & 18 yr olds are close, we have to disagree joeglow3 Mar 2014 #115

I never read that the parents actually said they wouldn't give her the college money. Captain Stern Mar 2014 #95

They have said the college fund is still there. They have said she is welcome to move back ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #126

Age of majority used to be 21 exboyfil Mar 2014 #97

I moved out at 17 in 1966 HockeyMom Mar 2014 #109

How long before this is an episode of Law and Order? marshall Mar 2014 #100

I don't think either side is giving enough information to determine if it is a good ruling or not. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #103

There is a lot of information is in the court filings Crabby Appleton Mar 2014 #139

This is a frivilous suit bluestateguy Mar 2014 #127

A self-supporting MINOR should be able to come and go as they please HockeyMom Mar 2014 #141

Where did you get the idea that this teen is self-supporting? Jenoch Mar 2014 #154

No, she isn't but she hasn't graduated from HS yet HockeyMom Mar 2014 #158

I don't get that vibe. Jenoch Mar 2014 #166

This young woman is trying to have it both ways. kiva Mar 2014 #162

Did you read the court docs? She's got substance abuse issues, a serious disease riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #170

From the court docs, some interesting points: knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #172

the rules were listed. tammywammy Mar 2014 #175

Like I said, it wasn't in the main response to the motion. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #176

And I counter with, she is 18 and they can kick her out! nt Logical Mar 2014 #179

They can, but NJ law seems to say there are consequences. knitter4democracy Mar 2014 #180

I have a unique opinion...I don't care brooklynite Mar 2014 #182