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DustyJoe

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15. unfortunately yes

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:52 PM

Apr 2014

With the executive branch and DOJ publicly selecting what laws they will enforce or not these past few years, does provide ammunition for this type of disdain for the law. Let's face it, if they can choose not to enforce trespassing over the national borders then why bother to enforce cows trespassing to eat some grass. A simple EO from the oval office or another edict from DOJ could render enforcement of this law moot like the others waived. Would save a lot of bad publicity. For the past over 100 years this family has grazed these lands with cows eating grass which regrows, why should there be this drama unfolding ? I guarantee wild cows and turtles lived together for centuries before this broughaha erupted. Jusy my opinion of course.

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Phony militia bullies and tax cheats force BLM to back down - Breaking News [View all] superpatriotman Apr 2014 OP

pathetic fascisthunter Apr 2014 #1

The moral is that Obama doesn't want another Waco or Ruby Ridge JJChambers Apr 2014 #2

and the next time a group of people don't want to follow a law dsc Apr 2014 #4

unfortunately yes DustyJoe Apr 2014 #15

+1 Go Vols Apr 2014 #24

Wow, you support a thief. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #31

thievery DustyJoe Apr 2014 #46

Wow, and even less informed about public lands in the west. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #47

Wow JJChambers Apr 2014 #51

And you support an armed confrontation that could lead to deaths on both sides over some cattle IronGate Apr 2014 #63

For the win AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #70

westerner DustyJoe Apr 2014 #68

Wow MohRokTah Apr 2014 #69

Hasta La Vista Amigo /nt DustyJoe Apr 2014 #73

I've noticed you say Wow in most of your posts. You must be shocked easily. JJChambers Apr 2014 #84

What's your alternative? superpatriotman Apr 2014 #75

State Control DustyJoe Apr 2014 #85

That's okay if you trust your State superpatriotman Apr 2014 #88

Lots of people also say that about the federal agencies. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #196

name a state that isn't gejohnston Apr 2014 #203

Ah that stopped around 1865 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #131

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Wha? What do you mean you can't forage? maddezmom Apr 2014 #83

Well, you can't pick flowers or stuff in Cook County forest preserves. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #92

Yea, I was thinking it is hard to forage in the library. maddezmom Apr 2014 #95

LOL, foraging for books? greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #97

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #154

Looks like she came back for some more maddezmom Apr 2014 #158

Defiant Forager, lol! pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #159

Maybe she should go here maddezmom Apr 2014 #162

My my, some facts nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #127

They can get the fuck off of our land and pay us what they owe. jpak Apr 2014 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #177

Enforce national borders... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #125

Did they back off from enforcing the law because Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #151

I would say that there will be subpena's shortly madokie Apr 2014 #37

It has already been in the courts MohRokTah Apr 2014 #50

According to the article, they're talking about splitting the proceeds Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #166

It's not that simple treestar Apr 2014 #179

there is a massive difference between trying to run the affairs of other countries dsc Apr 2014 #198

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #224

I disagree. When you negotiate with terrorists, it results in more terrorism. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #5

So.. JJChambers Apr 2014 #6

There will only be a violent confrontation if the thief and his supporters decide to be violent. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #9

This will end up in a court room in front of a judge madokie Apr 2014 #38

It's been in a court room, multiple times. Budy lost MohRokTah Apr 2014 #39

Sorry but this isn't the end of story madokie Apr 2014 #41

Well, now that violent terrorist militias have been emboldened MohRokTah Apr 2014 #44

Good luck with that kind of thinking madokie Apr 2014 #45

Not like it will embolden anybody, I guess MohRokTah Apr 2014 #100

"Now these idiots think they can just threaten violence any time and get away with it." ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #48

It's the armed thugs who made that decision. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #167

NO!, but LAWS are DiverDave Apr 2014 #183

Crying?? nt JJChambers Apr 2014 #187

So was Neville Chamberlain. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #195

Crying?? huh? DiverDave Apr 2014 #220

there have been hostage negotiations treestar Apr 2014 #181

I didn't know hostage negotiators backed down to guns letting the robbers have the cash Dragonfli Apr 2014 #219

Agreed, but it opens doors to threats of violence as a means to an ends superpatriotman Apr 2014 #10

There are better ways of dealing with this then building up a mini-army JJChambers Apr 2014 #18

Too late superpatriotman Apr 2014 #27

He will soon be forgotten. JJChambers Apr 2014 #28

The violent militas won't forget that just the THREAT of violence backs down the feds. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #42

If the issue is a few cows and some unpaid expenses JJChambers Apr 2014 #55

IMO, this was the worst decision ever made by Obama, if he made it. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #61

And you would be correct nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #110

I agree. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #56

that's ridiculous position, but it's why banksters and Wall Street crooks... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #43

You really think this rose all the way to the President? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #57

Absolutely I do JJChambers Apr 2014 #62

And I am betting this decision was taken, best case, by senior BLM officials nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #96

But that's IF christx30 Apr 2014 #217

Bad, bad precedent to set TransitJohn Apr 2014 #79

+1 Conservative style "strength" treestar Apr 2014 #178

I agree Marrah_G Apr 2014 #225

NEgotiating with terrorists never works MohRokTah Apr 2014 #3

For the win. 7-10 days from now, 3am night operation, grab him, throw him in jail. stevenleser Apr 2014 #11

But an 'armed mob' might show up! Better just let him commit a crime Rex Apr 2014 #23

Yep, that's the position. Violent criminals must be allowed to commit their crimes. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #66

The double standard between that and OWS is dumbfounding. Rex Apr 2014 #71

Well come now, OWS was peaceful MohRokTah Apr 2014 #77

Sad fucking reflection of where we are in 2014. Rex Apr 2014 #81

Maybe because a lot of LEO's identify and sympathize with right wing groups and causes? n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Apr 2014 #199

yep seems like the best way to avoid another Ruby Ridge to me nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #89

All it did was to embolden the terrorists MohRokTah Apr 2014 #93

I think the 7-10 day timetable still works. Let him try to feed & house the militia people long term stevenleser Apr 2014 #145

Travel Calista241 Apr 2014 #216

Or have a really, really big one at some point in the future. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #175

Indeed bring him to the northeast. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #115

Didn't they already round up the cattle? JaneyVee Apr 2014 #7

They rounded up 'some' superpatriotman Apr 2014 #12

So they backed down to illegal activity. Rex Apr 2014 #8

They backed down to avoid a possible violent confrontation. IronGate Apr 2014 #14

And it will only lead to a MORE violent confrontation MohRokTah Apr 2014 #16

You would prefer a possible blood bath? IronGate Apr 2014 #20

You would prefer an even larger blood bath? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #25

So I'll put you in the catagory of wanting people from both sides to lose their lives. IronGate Apr 2014 #30

Argumentum non sequitur. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #33

Waco and Ruby Ridge treestar Apr 2014 #184

I side with the Feds wrt Waco MohRokTah Apr 2014 #190

So the lesson is: give liberals a beatdown but fear wingnuts WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #52

Yeah an 'armed mob' was going to show up to defend this guys illegal activity Rex Apr 2014 #17

You prefer a possible blood bath? IronGate Apr 2014 #19

If wrong, I apologize superpatriotman Apr 2014 #21

Yes it is. IronGate Apr 2014 #26

No superpatriotman Apr 2014 #29

If the law were to be applied equally to all, truedelphi Apr 2014 #191

So I'll put down as you supporting the person with the most guns and worst threats winning. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #34

No, you can put me down as the person who doesn't want to see any loss of life IronGate Apr 2014 #49

No, you support a thief with guns getting away with thievery MohRokTah Apr 2014 #53

Silly JJChambers Apr 2014 #59

You have no idea what I support. IronGate Apr 2014 #60

Nobody said there was going to be a bloodbath...I guess you think the worst of people. Rex Apr 2014 #22

Peace in our time. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #193

So can I put you in the column of wanting to see a shootout with the resulting loss of life? IronGate Apr 2014 #200

bundy mercuryblues Apr 2014 #13

Right-wing gun nuts billh58 Apr 2014 #32

20 years? Let em go a few more and deal with it without a Waco moment NightWatcher Apr 2014 #35

This is a bad error. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #36

Anyone who calls this 'bad'... Lancero Apr 2014 #40

We seem to have a some who would prefer a confrontation that could result in possible loss of life IronGate Apr 2014 #54

I can't really argue against this... TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #74

What emboldened them... Lancero Apr 2014 #132

Definitely... TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #165

Not in the long run treestar Apr 2014 #185

So where is the line drawn? TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #201

These are the same people that equate Democrats with tyranny......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #214

I remember WACO. Violent nutcases got violent. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #78

Now, if Occupy all brandished guns, they'd be dead. Double standards much? villager Apr 2014 #58

That's what I was waiting for! superpatriotman Apr 2014 #64

That's what the FBI memo implies. Octafish Apr 2014 #112

The problem, of course, is that the "police" are also heavily armed, rightwing nutcases villager Apr 2014 #218

I am happy the potentially violent situation is being desculated. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #65

Alternatives to the roundup were tried. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #67

In my opinion, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #72

The moment people showed up armed and threatening violence MohRokTah Apr 2014 #82

Oh bullsheet. IronGate Apr 2014 #94

REally? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #99

Yeah? IronGate Apr 2014 #101

I provided the link MohRokTah Apr 2014 #102

All you provided was a link that he allegedly said that, IronGate Apr 2014 #105

Bye MohRokTah Apr 2014 #106

No, it's obvious you can't provide a link IronGate Apr 2014 #111

And here is the link yet again hatrack Apr 2014 #172

I've read it over and over and nowhere does it say who provided that. IronGate Apr 2014 #176

Here is the link again hatrack Apr 2014 #171

No, the Federal Government didn't want the public to find out ballyhoo Apr 2014 #124

Feel free to post your 'comfirmation' superpatriotman Apr 2014 #147

I know that. I've already confirmed most ballyhoo Apr 2014 #160

That deal is dead maddezmom Apr 2014 #157

I know, but what was the proximate ballyhoo Apr 2014 #163

Did you read the link? It could not get the required funding. maddezmom Apr 2014 #164

I read the link, but this link could have ballyhoo Apr 2014 #168

Fabricated? Oh dear.... maddezmom Apr 2014 #170

It's like an infowar! superpatriotman Apr 2014 #173

LOL! maddezmom Apr 2014 #174

Sorry, I no longer believe in coincidences, particularly ballyhoo Apr 2014 #180

So just so I am clear... You think the Las Vegas Sun story is fabricated and they are in on it? maddezmom Apr 2014 #186

Las Vegas Sun fabricate a story?.... ballyhoo Apr 2014 #192

So who did the fabricating? Or better stated, who do you think is in on the "coincidence"? maddezmom Apr 2014 #194

The government; namely, BLM, aided and abetted ballyhoo Apr 2014 #197

This may embolden some people in the future, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #120

No, violence is not actually being reduced in this instance. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #121

Maybe. No one has been killed so far. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #129

And nobody was going to get killed unless criminals started getting violent before the BLM caved. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #130

This was just posted. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #134

Worst possible thing the BLM could have done. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #135

Just so I'm clear, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #140

Seems like some sort of performance art to me maddezmom Apr 2014 #149

For some reason, he seems to want an armed confrontation with the possible loss of life IronGate Apr 2014 #139

I also support the nonviolent solution. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #143

+1000. IronGate Apr 2014 #146

Yeah, I don't know what's up with those who want to storm in with all guns blazing. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #142

I don't know. That is an interesting question. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #150

I kind of like it when these situations are dialed down as opposed to escalated. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #152

Yeah. I hope many of us do. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #153

Mine too. IronGate Apr 2014 #155

It shows that armed idiots can get away with whatever they want if there's a number of them. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #76

In a "deal" there is a benefit to both sides tularetom Apr 2014 #86

SPLC - Hatewatch take on the situation: superpatriotman Apr 2014 #87

Cliven Bundy DEMANDS BLM employees be disarmed and guns brought to him MohRokTah Apr 2014 #91

so if i don't like the laws i just get a militia together to repel law enforcement Takket Apr 2014 #98

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #161

The moral of the story.... HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #103

This might be a stupid question but rrneck Apr 2014 #104

You mean Cliven Bundy? IronGate Apr 2014 #107

Ah. Thanks. I edited. ntt rrneck Apr 2014 #117

Bundy, Gillespie is the local sheriff. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #109

Thanks! I didnt mean for it to be that stupid. rrneck Apr 2014 #114

Get in bed with Rand Paul/Ted Cruz, the entire country will be run Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #108

Hahaha BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #116

Here: superpatriotman Apr 2014 #126

Obama has never been known to want confrontation bluestateguy Apr 2014 #113

Get real, Obama didn't have anything to do with this. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #128

Mob rule - Fox News and RW radio incited this underpants Apr 2014 #118

Yes they did superpatriotman Apr 2014 #122

Now they have a taste of real power. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #123

Bad move signifying a further deterioration in the rule of law. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #119

Yep BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #136

Oh, FFS... MineralMan Apr 2014 #138

No you misunderstand BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #156

Lots of DUers thirsting for a bloody battle in this thread. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #133

Because negotiating with terrorists works. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #137

Because killing works, right? IronGate Apr 2014 #141

So we definitely need to send troops to the Ukraine. Right? Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #144

Hmmm, is this some sort of performance art? maddezmom Apr 2014 #148

It could. It is done often. treestar Apr 2014 #189

The BLM is actually releasing the cows they've already rounded up. What a farce Dems to Win Apr 2014 #169

Just wait for the paunchy oafs with Big Ugly Guns to go home Warpy Apr 2014 #182

What? ballyhoo Apr 2014 #188

If I am not mistaken they released the 100 cows that were in a correl but the feds have already jwirr Apr 2014 #202

If Mr. Bundy were say black and numbers of armed black males were coming Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #204

Bundy will lose in the end malaise Apr 2014 #205

Definitely ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #206

Meanwhile, wingnuts are openly plotting how next to use the armed terrorist card. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #207

Violence if the last refuge of the incompetent ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #208

They consider this a win MohRokTah Apr 2014 #209

They always do ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #210

Tell me that after they show up at a Planned Parenthood armed to the teeth. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #211

They have been doing all those things for years ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #212

REally? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #213

If they do, their cause would suffer a huge loss ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #215

Anyone that thinks.. sendero Apr 2014 #221

Bundy, or one of his "patriot" sons flying rabbit Apr 2014 #222

This has emboldened them. Now they are calling for similar actions in 4 other states. Hugin Apr 2014 #223

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