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Nye Bevan

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144. So we definitely need to send troops to the Ukraine. Right?

Reply to MohRokTah (Reply #137)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 02:55 PM

Apr 2014

Ever hear of discretion being the better part of valor?

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Phony militia bullies and tax cheats force BLM to back down - Breaking News [View all] superpatriotman Apr 2014 OP

pathetic fascisthunter Apr 2014 #1

The moral is that Obama doesn't want another Waco or Ruby Ridge JJChambers Apr 2014 #2

and the next time a group of people don't want to follow a law dsc Apr 2014 #4

unfortunately yes DustyJoe Apr 2014 #15

+1 Go Vols Apr 2014 #24

Wow, you support a thief. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #31

thievery DustyJoe Apr 2014 #46

Wow, and even less informed about public lands in the west. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #47

Wow JJChambers Apr 2014 #51

And you support an armed confrontation that could lead to deaths on both sides over some cattle IronGate Apr 2014 #63

For the win AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #70

westerner DustyJoe Apr 2014 #68

Wow MohRokTah Apr 2014 #69

Hasta La Vista Amigo /nt DustyJoe Apr 2014 #73

I've noticed you say Wow in most of your posts. You must be shocked easily. JJChambers Apr 2014 #84

What's your alternative? superpatriotman Apr 2014 #75

State Control DustyJoe Apr 2014 #85

That's okay if you trust your State superpatriotman Apr 2014 #88

Lots of people also say that about the federal agencies. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #196

name a state that isn't gejohnston Apr 2014 #203

Ah that stopped around 1865 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #131

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Wha? What do you mean you can't forage? maddezmom Apr 2014 #83

Well, you can't pick flowers or stuff in Cook County forest preserves. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #92

Yea, I was thinking it is hard to forage in the library. maddezmom Apr 2014 #95

LOL, foraging for books? greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #97

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Looks like she came back for some more maddezmom Apr 2014 #158

Defiant Forager, lol! pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #159

Maybe she should go here maddezmom Apr 2014 #162

My my, some facts nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #127

They can get the fuck off of our land and pay us what they owe. jpak Apr 2014 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #177

Enforce national borders... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #125

Did they back off from enforcing the law because Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #151

I would say that there will be subpena's shortly madokie Apr 2014 #37

It has already been in the courts MohRokTah Apr 2014 #50

According to the article, they're talking about splitting the proceeds Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #166

It's not that simple treestar Apr 2014 #179

there is a massive difference between trying to run the affairs of other countries dsc Apr 2014 #198

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I disagree. When you negotiate with terrorists, it results in more terrorism. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #5

So.. JJChambers Apr 2014 #6

There will only be a violent confrontation if the thief and his supporters decide to be violent. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #9

This will end up in a court room in front of a judge madokie Apr 2014 #38

It's been in a court room, multiple times. Budy lost MohRokTah Apr 2014 #39

Sorry but this isn't the end of story madokie Apr 2014 #41

Well, now that violent terrorist militias have been emboldened MohRokTah Apr 2014 #44

Good luck with that kind of thinking madokie Apr 2014 #45

Not like it will embolden anybody, I guess MohRokTah Apr 2014 #100

"Now these idiots think they can just threaten violence any time and get away with it." ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #48

It's the armed thugs who made that decision. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #167

NO!, but LAWS are DiverDave Apr 2014 #183

Crying?? nt JJChambers Apr 2014 #187

So was Neville Chamberlain. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #195

Crying?? huh? DiverDave Apr 2014 #220

there have been hostage negotiations treestar Apr 2014 #181

I didn't know hostage negotiators backed down to guns letting the robbers have the cash Dragonfli Apr 2014 #219

Agreed, but it opens doors to threats of violence as a means to an ends superpatriotman Apr 2014 #10

There are better ways of dealing with this then building up a mini-army JJChambers Apr 2014 #18

Too late superpatriotman Apr 2014 #27

He will soon be forgotten. JJChambers Apr 2014 #28

The violent militas won't forget that just the THREAT of violence backs down the feds. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #42

If the issue is a few cows and some unpaid expenses JJChambers Apr 2014 #55

IMO, this was the worst decision ever made by Obama, if he made it. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #61

And you would be correct nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #110

I agree. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #56

that's ridiculous position, but it's why banksters and Wall Street crooks... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #43

You really think this rose all the way to the President? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #57

Absolutely I do JJChambers Apr 2014 #62

And I am betting this decision was taken, best case, by senior BLM officials nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #96

But that's IF christx30 Apr 2014 #217

Bad, bad precedent to set TransitJohn Apr 2014 #79

+1 Conservative style "strength" treestar Apr 2014 #178

I agree Marrah_G Apr 2014 #225

NEgotiating with terrorists never works MohRokTah Apr 2014 #3

For the win. 7-10 days from now, 3am night operation, grab him, throw him in jail. stevenleser Apr 2014 #11

But an 'armed mob' might show up! Better just let him commit a crime Rex Apr 2014 #23

Yep, that's the position. Violent criminals must be allowed to commit their crimes. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #66

The double standard between that and OWS is dumbfounding. Rex Apr 2014 #71

Well come now, OWS was peaceful MohRokTah Apr 2014 #77

Sad fucking reflection of where we are in 2014. Rex Apr 2014 #81

Maybe because a lot of LEO's identify and sympathize with right wing groups and causes? n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Apr 2014 #199

yep seems like the best way to avoid another Ruby Ridge to me nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #89

All it did was to embolden the terrorists MohRokTah Apr 2014 #93

I think the 7-10 day timetable still works. Let him try to feed & house the militia people long term stevenleser Apr 2014 #145

Travel Calista241 Apr 2014 #216

Or have a really, really big one at some point in the future. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #175

Indeed bring him to the northeast. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #115

Didn't they already round up the cattle? JaneyVee Apr 2014 #7

They rounded up 'some' superpatriotman Apr 2014 #12

So they backed down to illegal activity. Rex Apr 2014 #8

They backed down to avoid a possible violent confrontation. IronGate Apr 2014 #14

And it will only lead to a MORE violent confrontation MohRokTah Apr 2014 #16

You would prefer a possible blood bath? IronGate Apr 2014 #20

You would prefer an even larger blood bath? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #25

So I'll put you in the catagory of wanting people from both sides to lose their lives. IronGate Apr 2014 #30

Argumentum non sequitur. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #33

Waco and Ruby Ridge treestar Apr 2014 #184

I side with the Feds wrt Waco MohRokTah Apr 2014 #190

So the lesson is: give liberals a beatdown but fear wingnuts WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #52

Yeah an 'armed mob' was going to show up to defend this guys illegal activity Rex Apr 2014 #17

You prefer a possible blood bath? IronGate Apr 2014 #19

If wrong, I apologize superpatriotman Apr 2014 #21

Yes it is. IronGate Apr 2014 #26

No superpatriotman Apr 2014 #29

If the law were to be applied equally to all, truedelphi Apr 2014 #191

So I'll put down as you supporting the person with the most guns and worst threats winning. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #34

No, you can put me down as the person who doesn't want to see any loss of life IronGate Apr 2014 #49

No, you support a thief with guns getting away with thievery MohRokTah Apr 2014 #53

Silly JJChambers Apr 2014 #59

You have no idea what I support. IronGate Apr 2014 #60

Nobody said there was going to be a bloodbath...I guess you think the worst of people. Rex Apr 2014 #22

Peace in our time. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #193

So can I put you in the column of wanting to see a shootout with the resulting loss of life? IronGate Apr 2014 #200

bundy mercuryblues Apr 2014 #13

Right-wing gun nuts billh58 Apr 2014 #32

20 years? Let em go a few more and deal with it without a Waco moment NightWatcher Apr 2014 #35

This is a bad error. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #36

Anyone who calls this 'bad'... Lancero Apr 2014 #40

We seem to have a some who would prefer a confrontation that could result in possible loss of life IronGate Apr 2014 #54

I can't really argue against this... TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #74

What emboldened them... Lancero Apr 2014 #132

Definitely... TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #165

Not in the long run treestar Apr 2014 #185

So where is the line drawn? TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #201

These are the same people that equate Democrats with tyranny......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #214

I remember WACO. Violent nutcases got violent. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #78

Now, if Occupy all brandished guns, they'd be dead. Double standards much? villager Apr 2014 #58

That's what I was waiting for! superpatriotman Apr 2014 #64

That's what the FBI memo implies. Octafish Apr 2014 #112

The problem, of course, is that the "police" are also heavily armed, rightwing nutcases villager Apr 2014 #218

I am happy the potentially violent situation is being desculated. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #65

Alternatives to the roundup were tried. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #67

In my opinion, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #72

The moment people showed up armed and threatening violence MohRokTah Apr 2014 #82

Oh bullsheet. IronGate Apr 2014 #94

REally? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #99

Yeah? IronGate Apr 2014 #101

I provided the link MohRokTah Apr 2014 #102

All you provided was a link that he allegedly said that, IronGate Apr 2014 #105

Bye MohRokTah Apr 2014 #106

No, it's obvious you can't provide a link IronGate Apr 2014 #111

And here is the link yet again hatrack Apr 2014 #172

I've read it over and over and nowhere does it say who provided that. IronGate Apr 2014 #176

Here is the link again hatrack Apr 2014 #171

No, the Federal Government didn't want the public to find out ballyhoo Apr 2014 #124

Feel free to post your 'comfirmation' superpatriotman Apr 2014 #147

I know that. I've already confirmed most ballyhoo Apr 2014 #160

That deal is dead maddezmom Apr 2014 #157

I know, but what was the proximate ballyhoo Apr 2014 #163

Did you read the link? It could not get the required funding. maddezmom Apr 2014 #164

I read the link, but this link could have ballyhoo Apr 2014 #168

Fabricated? Oh dear.... maddezmom Apr 2014 #170

It's like an infowar! superpatriotman Apr 2014 #173

LOL! maddezmom Apr 2014 #174

Sorry, I no longer believe in coincidences, particularly ballyhoo Apr 2014 #180

So just so I am clear... You think the Las Vegas Sun story is fabricated and they are in on it? maddezmom Apr 2014 #186

Las Vegas Sun fabricate a story?.... ballyhoo Apr 2014 #192

So who did the fabricating? Or better stated, who do you think is in on the "coincidence"? maddezmom Apr 2014 #194

The government; namely, BLM, aided and abetted ballyhoo Apr 2014 #197

This may embolden some people in the future, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #120

No, violence is not actually being reduced in this instance. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #121

Maybe. No one has been killed so far. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #129

And nobody was going to get killed unless criminals started getting violent before the BLM caved. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #130

This was just posted. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #134

Worst possible thing the BLM could have done. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #135

Just so I'm clear, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #140

Seems like some sort of performance art to me maddezmom Apr 2014 #149

For some reason, he seems to want an armed confrontation with the possible loss of life IronGate Apr 2014 #139

I also support the nonviolent solution. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #143

+1000. IronGate Apr 2014 #146

Yeah, I don't know what's up with those who want to storm in with all guns blazing. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #142

I don't know. That is an interesting question. ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #150

I kind of like it when these situations are dialed down as opposed to escalated. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #152

Yeah. I hope many of us do. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #153

Mine too. IronGate Apr 2014 #155

It shows that armed idiots can get away with whatever they want if there's a number of them. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #76

In a "deal" there is a benefit to both sides tularetom Apr 2014 #86

SPLC - Hatewatch take on the situation: superpatriotman Apr 2014 #87

Cliven Bundy DEMANDS BLM employees be disarmed and guns brought to him MohRokTah Apr 2014 #91

so if i don't like the laws i just get a militia together to repel law enforcement Takket Apr 2014 #98

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #161

The moral of the story.... HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #103

This might be a stupid question but rrneck Apr 2014 #104

You mean Cliven Bundy? IronGate Apr 2014 #107

Ah. Thanks. I edited. ntt rrneck Apr 2014 #117

Bundy, Gillespie is the local sheriff. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #109

Thanks! I didnt mean for it to be that stupid. rrneck Apr 2014 #114

Get in bed with Rand Paul/Ted Cruz, the entire country will be run Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #108

Hahaha BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #116

Here: superpatriotman Apr 2014 #126

Obama has never been known to want confrontation bluestateguy Apr 2014 #113

Get real, Obama didn't have anything to do with this. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #128

Mob rule - Fox News and RW radio incited this underpants Apr 2014 #118

Yes they did superpatriotman Apr 2014 #122

Now they have a taste of real power. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #123

Bad move signifying a further deterioration in the rule of law. Crunchy Frog Apr 2014 #119

Yep BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #136

Oh, FFS... MineralMan Apr 2014 #138

No you misunderstand BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #156

Lots of DUers thirsting for a bloody battle in this thread. Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #133

Because negotiating with terrorists works. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #137

Because killing works, right? IronGate Apr 2014 #141

So we definitely need to send troops to the Ukraine. Right? Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #144

Hmmm, is this some sort of performance art? maddezmom Apr 2014 #148

It could. It is done often. treestar Apr 2014 #189

The BLM is actually releasing the cows they've already rounded up. What a farce Dems to Win Apr 2014 #169

Just wait for the paunchy oafs with Big Ugly Guns to go home Warpy Apr 2014 #182

What? ballyhoo Apr 2014 #188

If I am not mistaken they released the 100 cows that were in a correl but the feds have already jwirr Apr 2014 #202

If Mr. Bundy were say black and numbers of armed black males were coming Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #204

Bundy will lose in the end malaise Apr 2014 #205

Definitely ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #206

Meanwhile, wingnuts are openly plotting how next to use the armed terrorist card. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #207

Violence if the last refuge of the incompetent ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #208

They consider this a win MohRokTah Apr 2014 #209

They always do ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #210

Tell me that after they show up at a Planned Parenthood armed to the teeth. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #211

They have been doing all those things for years ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #212

REally? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #213

If they do, their cause would suffer a huge loss ThoughtCriminal Apr 2014 #215

Anyone that thinks.. sendero Apr 2014 #221

Bundy, or one of his "patriot" sons flying rabbit Apr 2014 #222

This has emboldened them. Now they are calling for similar actions in 4 other states. Hugin Apr 2014 #223

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