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Dorian Gray

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67. How do the girls

Thu May 8, 2014, 06:34 AM

May 2014

get a voice in particiaption. They can refuse to go to their prom, but being ranked? It's there without their consent. And I think it's terrible.

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California school cracks down on 'prom draft' [View all] CreekDog May 2014 OP

The odds are pretty good that it will; that's human nature. el_bryanto May 2014 #1

"One person posts in opposition and starts an argument that lasts three days" lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #5

You ain't wrong. Iggo May 2014 #10

Is someone forcing the girls to participate? B2G May 2014 #2

Is someone allowing them to do the drafting, or did I miss that part? LanternWaste May 2014 #3

Apparently, the girls weren't consulted at all Warpy May 2014 #51

Yes. Is there any indication that girls have a choice about being included in the draft? No. pnwmom May 2014 #52

i like cjeekdgg CreekDog May 2014 #69

That's also an argument in favor of school prayer Capt. Obvious May 2014 #71

Except this isn't being done in school. nt B2G May 2014 #92

the prom is a school sponsored activity CreekDog May 2014 #100

So did those girls feel trapped into participating? How about the boys? The Straight Story May 2014 #4

Of course many of them did. They weren't asked if they wanted to be ranked. pnwmom May 2014 #53

How do the girls Dorian Gray May 2014 #67

From what I have seen they agree to be a part of it The Straight Story May 2014 #68

and they aren't adults CreekDog May 2014 #70

Some would say the same about sex and abortion when it comes to teens The Straight Story May 2014 #76

this is all part of the main reason you're here CreekDog May 2014 #78

So you respect some choices but want to control others The Straight Story May 2014 #80

Oh good gawd... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #82

My right to control my BODY has nothing to do with your VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #83

It's not principled to believe in an "anything goes" world. alp227 May 2014 #99

Why are you always bringing up gun? Not in the OP. Eleanors38 May 2014 #96

The results... one_voice May 2014 #127

Interesting. Seems like someone couldn't discuss the issue and used an alert instead The Straight Story May 2014 #130

Not really much can be done. BKH70041 May 2014 #6

The Principal does have a platform el_bryanto May 2014 #7

Yes, there is that. BKH70041 May 2014 #11

and as the Principal said....school activities can be canceled.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #84

Ban proms all together 1000words May 2014 #8

Really? Shut down all proms because of one isolated incident? alp227 May 2014 #125

I wonder how many young women are raped on Prom night ... 1000words May 2014 #126

Then EDUCATE, don't prohibit. alp227 May 2014 #128

Are the girls being forced to attend "Prom"? Are the boys being forced to run the stupid draft? NYC_SKP May 2014 #9

I don't get it. Waiting For Everyman May 2014 #12

This ^^^^^^^ treestar May 2014 #17

In our liberal college town island in a very red state (KS), the tblue37 May 2014 #48

So very nice treestar May 2014 #50

Thanks. I rather like them myself! nt tblue37 May 2014 #54

great story and great post CreekDog May 2014 #72

If I know teenaged boys, I'd say the "draft" has nothing to do with popularity Blue_Tires May 2014 #118

Sorry, I just can't be bothered to care. linuxman May 2014 #13

I agree.. sendero May 2014 #38

Girls have a draft system related to how long a boy's penis is? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #86

and when the girls start ranking boys by the length of their penii? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #85

Are you being serious? linuxman May 2014 #102

but girls breasts are....and how much you want to bet THEY are part of the criteria? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #103

Again, linuxman May 2014 #104

Again you say tolerate it.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #105

How do you propose to stop teens from judging each other in ANY regard? linuxman May 2014 #106

How? I'm not a Libertarian....how to we enforce any rules in this society? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #107

Congratulations? linuxman May 2014 #108

I'll answer for ya... alp227 May 2014 #113

Great plan. linuxman May 2014 #115

You've sure posted in the thread enough times. redqueen May 2014 #117

Reading is fundamental. linuxman May 2014 #120

LOL, you're a hoot. If you bothered to read you'd not be putting on this redqueen May 2014 #122

"Simply explain to the kids that judging people is wrong." alp227 May 2014 #119

Nobody gives a shit what the little knuckle draggers talk about. They were making lists, redqueen May 2014 #109

Illegal activity you say?!?! linuxman May 2014 #110

LOL. nt redqueen May 2014 #111

It's not about fixing a problem, .... oldhippie May 2014 #114

I'm beginning to see that. linuxman May 2014 #121

so what if "all of life is one big draft after another"? alp227 May 2014 #112

It's a good idea, but the school administration needs to run it FarCenter May 2014 #14

is it sexual preference? CreekDog May 2014 #16

They might be able to adapt the algorithm used to match med students to residencies FarCenter May 2014 #22

you used the term "sexual preference", are you saying it's a choice? CreekDog May 2014 #29

I meant that the algorithm would have to include matches between various genders FarCenter May 2014 #37

if not for your posting history, i might not have challenged you CreekDog May 2014 #62

The acquiescence to and acceptance of the objectification of women on this site is pitiful. redqueen May 2014 #15

Not sure what you are trying to say The Straight Story May 2014 #18

Are you under the impression that the girls being ranked signed up for this list? redqueen May 2014 #20

From the article The Straight Story May 2014 #21

So, because one girl thinks it is fun, we should just approve of objectification? redqueen May 2014 #23

Video of one: The Straight Story May 2014 #25

I'm sure way more than a few women think sexual objectification is awesome. redqueen May 2014 #26

Maybe some women just see things different in life The Straight Story May 2014 #30

and just maybe some girls going to prom are too young to understand objectification... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #87

Did you see the video, they also use the draft for who gets to pick tuxedos. dilby May 2014 #32

So you're telling me girls aren't ranked unless they sign up to be ranked? redqueen May 2014 #33

Yeah, if you watch the video you will see that. dilby May 2014 #36

See what? All the girls involved being asked if they want to be ranked? nt redqueen May 2014 #39

The draft is voluntary, guys and girls volunteer to participate in it. dilby May 2014 #40

Your interpretation of that video does not line up with some of the reporting. nt redqueen May 2014 #42

the video is 7 years old CreekDog May 2014 #73

Some girls doing a prom draft, calling boys too dumb to make decisions The Straight Story May 2014 #28

Why would it make a difference whether they signed up or not? oldhippie May 2014 #27

Oh My Goddess. redqueen May 2014 #31

Ok, don't bother to answer ...... oldhippie May 2014 #35

are you threatening her? CreekDog May 2014 #75

Careful, you might hurt your back ... oldhippie May 2014 #93

Yeah, how else would they know they were grade AA filet mignon instead of bargain chuck? Warpy May 2014 #56

People choose to participate in DU. Students are required by law to attend high school. pnwmom May 2014 #57

oh, what list is she on? CreekDog May 2014 #74

You know, it's possible .... oldhippie May 2014 #95

No, don't run away from what you said, you said she was on a list CreekDog May 2014 #123

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #124

There, CreekDog. Are you happy now? Do you get it? redqueen May 2014 #129

You're not trying very hard. The girls don't have a chance to opt out of the ranking. pnwmom May 2014 #55

Just going by what the article says: The Straight Story May 2014 #58

Fail. "I am part of the draft" doesn't mean she consented CreekDog May 2014 #77

Libertarians...pffffffttttttt!! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #88

Whether there is a "prom draft" or not, girls are "ranked" in HS. blueamy66 May 2014 #94

Ya got that right. Iggo May 2014 #19

Wow. I see the complaints of women on this site about guys being jerks and sexists. HERVEPA May 2014 #41

Thanks for saying something. redqueen May 2014 #43

You're welcome. HERVEPA May 2014 #44

It is a small minority. Starry Messenger May 2014 #46

And mind numbingly silly. Squinch May 2014 #61

This is mild. And you are absolutely correct. If it weren't labeled DU, you'd swear you Squinch May 2014 #60

I agree with the principal. Jenoch May 2014 #24

I agree with the principal Marrah_G May 2014 #34

if the girls Niceguy1 May 2014 #45

they weren't given any choice TorchTheWitch May 2014 #81

interviews with girls from the school Niceguy1 May 2014 #91

Reminds me that high school sucked MosheFeingold May 2014 #47

Yet I notice no women't issues deemed "important things" on your list.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #89

Really? MosheFeingold May 2014 #116

Funny, my mom works in Corona del Mar. minivan2 May 2014 #49

Well...part of me can understand the problem many would have with this davidn3600 May 2014 #59

you know instead of equivocating and rationalizing about this CreekDog May 2014 #64

Im not saying it's right. I said it just seems like a stupid thing that some kids are doing davidn3600 May 2014 #65

If they were ranked by penis size you would have an issue with it I am sure... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #90

this is bullying taken to a freaking extreme. alp227 May 2014 #63

This A class fucking rude and creepy... Jasana May 2014 #66

Never liked the whole idea of Proms HockeyMom May 2014 #79

Prom "traditions" & politics made me nauseous..I didn't go. LeftinOH May 2014 #97

Hell, girls, start your own damn draft. nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #98

I live in Orange County currently. DEMTough May 2014 #101

Lots of BS on this thread. GoneOffShore May 2014 #131