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Demonaut

(8,945 posts) Wed May 14, 2014, 01:35 AM May 2014

It's getting weird here....white privilege....rape threads a month ago....it seems a bit much [View all]

I wonder where this crap is emanating from

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It's getting weird here....white privilege....rape threads a month ago....it seems a bit much [View all] Demonaut May 2014 OP

From people who don't want DU to be successful and want to get the Democrats fighting one okaawhatever May 2014 #1

Agree FuzzyRabbit May 2014 #4

That... Or people are just as blind and focused on race and gender Mr_Harshaw May 2014 #34

There are no impersonal gender terms in the English language, unlike in eg. latin languages Ghost Dog May 2014 #121

It shouldn't even be necessary....ALL Liberals should agree that White male privilege exists... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #251

So engaging the CORE of the Democratic base is sowing dvision? Number23 May 2014 #14

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #18

Certain posters here REALLY hate having these subjects discussed. redqueen May 2014 #52

I gave up on dealing with any of these subjects here nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #85

Agree, same here. You have the usual Katashi_itto May 2014 #341

Certain posters got lost on the way to Libertarian Underground. nt msanthrope May 2014 #137

+++1000 VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #252

Outstanding! Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #145

100% agreed. BlueCaliDem May 2014 #222

Exactly. Generalized attacks meant applegrove May 2014 #2

I try to avoid most of them... penultimate May 2014 #3

I avoid most of them, too, and for the same reason. winter is coming May 2014 #11

Same here. It's always the same cast with the same script... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #21

Dogs Doing Cute Things Underground is yet to be built VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #253

From people who think women's and minority issues are worthy of discussion in a liberal forum? Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #5

pitting one group against another is a "worthy discussion"..well said... Demonaut May 2014 #7

It only "pits one group against another" because people are annoyed at having their complacency nomorenomore08 May 2014 #15

They need to feel better about themselves whistler162 May 2014 #49

I don't think discussions regarding equality and civil rights = "pitting one group against another" LanternWaste May 2014 #86

I'm not white..you've made my point..thanks! Demonaut May 2014 #118

HAH! Exactly . . . Damansarajaya May 2014 #168

Yes we can. bravenak May 2014 #185

Are you AA? bravenak May 2014 #176

Thank you for demonstrating the point of this thread! CANDO May 2014 #165

You say this while going on the attack. bravenak May 2014 #184

How many people (real posters, not trolls) don't think such subjects should be discussed though? penultimate May 2014 #8

To judge from whingeing OPs like this one? A lot. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #9

The problem I've noticed is those always devolve into a pure useless petty argument. penultimate May 2014 #12

Part of the problem is how people create false equivalencies, even if perhaps not consciously so nomorenomore08 May 2014 #16

That's not it at all and you are incapable of upaloopa May 2014 #30

An honest discussion of privilege can be edifying. Yet another daily lecture from ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #37

Much as the daily denials of privilege from the "smug, pedantic, self-styled, desperately trendy att LanternWaste May 2014 #87

'Six of one, half a dozen of the other' portrays the two views as equally valid. redqueen May 2014 #97

In my view, anyone who denies the existence of privilege is far too unserious ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #219

The words you choose (smug, pedantic, haranguing, etc) and which side you aim them at are revealing. redqueen May 2014 #259

I made sure to select words which are undeniably non-gender specific. 11 Bravo May 2014 #263

Your not using bigoted insults is beside the point. It's nice and all, but beside the point. nt redqueen May 2014 #266

I'm thrilled that you approve of my verbiage. 11 Bravo May 2014 #274

And many others are not big believers in participation trophies. boston bean May 2014 #279

Ahh, so I've issued a demand. (Ain't that just like a white dude? Pushy bastards, the lot of them!) 11 Bravo May 2014 #315

It's all how you see it, heh. boston bean May 2014 #317

Now you're not even trying. Did you really just accuse me of "seeing something ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #321

Here again...perfect example. CANDO May 2014 #182

You always seem angry when discussing this issue. bravenak May 2014 #186

I've noticed that too. Squinch May 2014 #246

a suggestion is to stop using the word 'white' for a year and see what happens. Sunlei May 2014 #328

Shocking, indeed! Well said. scarletwoman May 2014 #10

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #17

Wouldn't it be great if these threads were actually teaching tools? CANDO May 2014 #207

Wrong. There are so many teaching posts in so many threads. redqueen May 2014 #210

And you provided none. CANDO May 2014 #215

And you expected them to be provided to you. redqueen May 2014 #216

You know the saying.. CANDO May 2014 #237

LOL! redqueen May 2014 #239

I know another saying: scarletwoman May 2014 #275

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #286

I did not tell you to go away, I only suggested that if you're looking for "teaching tools", they're scarletwoman May 2014 #288

Good news, CANDO can't do DU now... alp227 May 2014 #305

Nice one. Jamaal510 May 2014 #308

Praise the Lord. But after he told a black poster here to "get a job" when she dared to talk about Number23 May 2014 #309

Wow. I didn't see that one. pintobean May 2014 #313

He needs to be shit-canned immediately. Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #316

where did that happen? nt alp227 May 2014 #324

The poster in question talks about it here and specifically talks about hurt she was Number23 May 2014 #334

Thank you. It's sad to me that he was so angry, it was not my intent to bait him. scarletwoman May 2014 #312

And "Can't Do" is spending most of the summer in DU Jail alp227 May 2014 #333

Well said. nt redqueen May 2014 #42

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss May 2014 #194

They will go away eventually quinnox May 2014 #6

I once knew a guy who had problems with meth... Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #13

People love to argue. (nt) Inkfreak May 2014 #19

No, they don't. kwassa May 2014 #112

Yes they do. FiveGoodMen May 2014 #171

Not necessarily. kwassa May 2014 #177

I'm sorry, but if you want to continue arguing you'll have to pay for another five minutes. FiveGoodMen May 2014 #181

But that was never five minutes just now! Oh Come on! kwassa May 2014 #200

"This is ridiculous. I've had enough." Damansarajaya May 2014 #236

Imagine if Jamaal510 May 2014 #310

This message was self-deleted by its author Inkfreak May 2014 #276

People of color and women gollygee May 2014 #20

These Whites refuse to understand that SaltyBro May 2014 #22

"These whites" AgingAmerican May 2014 #189

Well i've been hearing about those black hoodlums all my life. bravenak May 2014 #191

White males catch feelings when they are called out SaltyBro May 2014 #193

I know. bravenak May 2014 #195

"They" must be trounced!` AgingAmerican May 2014 #197

Who are you trying to trounce today? bravenak May 2014 #201

Left hook! AgingAmerican May 2014 #203

You feel beat down?? bravenak May 2014 #209

Yes AgingAmerican May 2014 #196

They need to realize that they don't have it bad compared to everyone else. bravenak May 2014 #198

"THEY" just don't get it! AgingAmerican May 2014 #202

Yes, apparently they do. bravenak May 2014 #214

So you are teaching "They" a lesson! AgingAmerican May 2014 #220

They need it. bravenak May 2014 #225

ALL racism sucks AgingAmerican May 2014 #199

Only whites can be racist though SaltyBro May 2014 #204

Right AgingAmerican May 2014 #205

Yes it does. bravenak May 2014 #208

Oh not that shit MattBaggins May 2014 #229

Interesting assumptions on the OP and posters whistler162 May 2014 #51

+1000000 n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #117

I don't think so. Links? nt ecstatic May 2014 #244

Exactly! Squinch May 2014 #248

Issues where there is a lot of disagreement tend to get a lot of posts. Vattel May 2014 #23

Honestly, I think a good chunk of it is probably just people getting frustrated at society, or life. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #24

TBH, really, TBH, TBH (to be honest) boston bean May 2014 #26

TBH. bravenak May 2014 #151

Am I reading this right, bravenak? sheshe2 May 2014 #281

Yes. bravenak May 2014 #282

I am so very sorry, bravenak. sheshe2 May 2014 #284

It happens sometimes. bravenak May 2014 #289

You are partly off base, yes. No offense. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #336

So the minorities who post on DU are just trolls? Starry Messenger May 2014 #25

Seems like that's the point they're making, doesn't it? Squinch May 2014 #249

white male bashing Niceguy1 May 2014 #27

Well-meaning DUers who sincerely want to end racism and sexism. Nye Bevan May 2014 #28

DING DING DING DING!!! WE'VE GOT A WINNER!!! CANDO May 2014 #231

When ever I see one of those OPs I put the poster upaloopa May 2014 #29

+1000 Katashi_itto May 2014 #31

how would you feel if people painted you that way for having disgust at that thread on bettyellen May 2014 #339

The certain types would paint me that way if it suited their spin as it stands as it is anyway, Katashi_itto May 2014 #340

And that's what happens to many who object to bigotry here. bettyellen May 2014 #342

Agree! Katashi_itto May 2014 #343

You're a credit to your race Capt. Obvious May 2014 #32

Maybe the best policy is to ignore them. ananda May 2014 #33

Perhaps because issues of racism and sexism and rape culture are of import to many women myrna minx May 2014 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde May 2014 #36

I'm sure you mean well, but I think this post is in poor taste. myrna minx May 2014 #38

Yes, economy and class matter justiceischeap May 2014 #40

+1 for the argument that economics is paramount. Laelth May 2014 #43

Let's be clear on the economy frazzled May 2014 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde May 2014 #50

It's bizarre someone would ... frazzled May 2014 #69

Wow. Starry Messenger May 2014 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde May 2014 #48

The cratering economy has predominantly hit blacks, Latinos and women. Starry Messenger May 2014 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde May 2014 #56

That had nothing to do with what I said to you. Starry Messenger May 2014 #83

She's got a point nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #92

Generally the same people who anywhere else would clutsh their pearls at the notion of "class" Scootaloo May 2014 #161

I know, I've been meaning to start a satirical OP about it, but haven't had the ergs. Starry Messenger May 2014 #212

As if its white middle class men who are at fault, right? CANDO May 2014 #217

Check the voting demographics when you get a chance. Starry Messenger May 2014 #223

Raises hand. I know!!!!! bravenak May 2014 #226

And it's bravenak for the win! Starry Messenger May 2014 #230

Millionaires in waiting!!!! bravenak May 2014 #247

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde May 2014 #258

What ARE you talking about?? bravenak May 2014 #264

LOL gollygee May 2014 #265

Yes. bravenak May 2014 #267

OK gotta read that one. gollygee May 2014 #268

Oh wait I already read that earlier gollygee May 2014 #269

Feel free to add crazy thing people say to you too. bravenak May 2014 #270

Wow, I missed the delete-a-thon! Starry Messenger May 2014 #302

Well it was a nice try, but i saved the one to me. bravenak May 2014 #332

Wow. nt redqueen May 2014 #271

Holy shit. Could have been cut and pasted straight from Free Republic, including the bad spelling. Number23 May 2014 #291

Let me clue you into a little secret.... CANDO May 2014 #235

Intellectual dishonesty will get you nowhere. Starry Messenger May 2014 #238

Intellectual dishonesty. CANDO May 2014 #257

Yeah and we would like to keep them and keep boston bean May 2014 #277

Here's a hug. Starry Messenger May 2014 #280

Why do you think that giving other people rights will take your rights away? Jamastiene May 2014 #293

I don't necessarily believe that... CANDO May 2014 #294

Then why did you say it in the previous post I replied to? n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #296

I was running with that theme in attempting to get... CANDO May 2014 #297

But, no one said you have to give up any of your rights. Jamastiene May 2014 #298

" Lately, "white privilege" is to DU what "Benghazi" is to R's"......you might be right, sadly. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #323

You're wrong. Minorities outvoted whites in 2012. Put together minorities and white women, and you Squinch May 2014 #254

Exactly. Those who think discussions on DU will make white men turn republican are entertaining. redqueen May 2014 #261

There are some here who have overtly stated that they won't vote Democratic because of Squinch May 2014 #278

A goodly portion of the carnage strewn on the shiny floor of capitalism are women and Skidmore May 2014 #81

*crickets* Starry Messenger May 2014 #102

Probably not best to imply issues important to minority communities are not only secondary NuclearDem May 2014 #95

I think personally, the agenda from sensible centrists nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #131

Guess which group is getting hurt the worst by the economy MattBaggins May 2014 #245

The middle class Jesus Malverde May 2014 #260

Wow, it is really weird huh? boston bean May 2014 #39

If white DUers conceded WP, would you believe them? Eleanors38 May 2014 #44

Why the hell are you asking me that? boston bean May 2014 #46

I was under the impression the admission of WP is Eleanors38 May 2014 #53

I called your comment ignorant, not you. boston bean May 2014 #57

That is what I find so demonstrably frustrating about Eleanors38 May 2014 #100

And who praytell are you sitting in judgment of? boston bean May 2014 #101

Hell, no one at all. Eleanors38 May 2014 #108

Ayup. boston bean May 2014 #109

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #211

White privilege is reality. NCTraveler May 2014 #107

You miss the point. WP, like the jargon of psychology, Eleanors38 May 2014 #113

I missed no point. Your question was very strange. nt. NCTraveler May 2014 #119

What a long, strange road it's been. Eleanors38 May 2014 #299

Concession is not enough. rrneck May 2014 #59

I suspect, if Boston's view is shared by others, WP will Eleanors38 May 2014 #104

Yep. It's become a pretty obvious cudgel. rrneck May 2014 #105

What is strange imo, is all the old user accounts suddenly becoming active again Rex May 2014 #138

Also strange is how many consistently active DUers agree with them. redqueen May 2014 #149

Interesting observation. I hadn't noticed the "Dawn of the Dead" quality of this. Squinch May 2014 #255

More speech is better than less speech. Laelth May 2014 #41

It certainly seemed coordinated. It's like there's a wedge-of-the-month club scheming daemons May 2014 #55

Is denial of white privilege a democratic position? boston bean May 2014 #58

You're missing the point, as usual scheming daemons May 2014 #61

I didn't realize acknowledging privilege was a wedge issue for democrats. boston bean May 2014 #62

You don't find it curious that..... scheming daemons May 2014 #66

What I find curious is you are blaming those who find the postings boston bean May 2014 #68

You and I likely agree on the subject of white privilege scheming daemons May 2014 #73

Who is driving this wedge? You and me who agree? boston bean May 2014 #74

Those who are bombarding the site with threads scheming daemons May 2014 #76

I look at this quite differently. boston bean May 2014 #80

What will be next month's wedge-of-the-month? scheming daemons May 2014 #88

Ah, I see now that you weren't really having an honest discussion with me. boston bean May 2014 #89

No... I was.... scheming daemons May 2014 #91

An email tip? LOL boston bean May 2014 #93

So you're actually labeling these as wedge issues redqueen May 2014 #127

They are if they are issues that divide a group of people who are obstensibly on the same side scheming daemons May 2014 #136

"the disruptors are using them" redqueen May 2014 #147

Why did you raise the issue now... and not before? scheming daemons May 2014 #152

Wow. OK. nt redqueen May 2014 #164

Conspiracy talk? Pretty funny coming from someone who was alerted to this grave problem Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #167

Where is this "Men's Rights group"? pintobean May 2014 #179

. JTFrog May 2014 #206

Well, isn't that just ducky. pintobean May 2014 #224

You are saying that like HoF has ever NOT talked about women's issues. ROFL! Jamastiene May 2014 #295

Yes we have. Because we are all powerful. And we are working quietly to take over the world. Squinch May 2014 #256

There have *literally* been many threads about white privilege in the past few months muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #122

Never even realized such a group existed until about 30 minutes ago. scheming daemons May 2014 #124

So the very first time you heard of them, you decided to accuse them of disrupting DU muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #130

I knew SOMEONE was disrupting DU..... but didn't know who scheming daemons May 2014 #133

No, you don't know that muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #139

he got an email tip. boston bean May 2014 #134

Yes, and those are always so reliable. Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #143

The divide already exists BainsBane May 2014 #65

Yes... and there is a coordinated effort to exploit the divide scheming daemons May 2014 #67

You think persons who make posting denying privilege boston bean May 2014 #71

No... I do not scheming daemons May 2014 #75

Well, lend your criticism to them. Because it is they who are on the wrong footing. boston bean May 2014 #77

Exactly, and coming from the same "people" Katashi_itto May 2014 #153

As usual. pintobean May 2014 #158

Yup Katashi_itto May 2014 #162

Let's review which issues "divide" Democrats BainsBane May 2014 #72

True.... but there is a coordinated effort about ONE particular issue this month.... scheming daemons May 2014 #90

Oddly enough, I haven't really noticed that effort. MineralMan May 2014 #99

Because it doesn't exist BainsBane May 2014 #110

Well said nt redqueen May 2014 #128

Not ironic, pretty predictable really if you look at who is posting what. Rex May 2014 #144

I remember when the GLBT community on DU was told we were a "wedge" issue. Jamastiene May 2014 #292

And you fancy yourself the adjudicator of the democratic position? CANDO May 2014 #233

I'm not wanting to take any of your privileges... D'oh boston bean May 2014 #234

This is why I've asked..... CANDO May 2014 #240

Excuse me but the first step is recognizing an issue not denying it. boston bean May 2014 #242

What we have here is people insisting I have a privilege, CANDO May 2014 #262

Which to you means that. However that is not the case. boston bean May 2014 #272

Bingo! CANDO May 2014 #287

You could always petiton Skinner BainsBane May 2014 #63

You're missing the point scheming daemons May 2014 #70

Sadly, that is how DU works BainsBane May 2014 #79

The reason they become hot topics is because people are now less willing redqueen May 2014 #82

Don't bother. The poster is getting email tips boston bean May 2014 #94

Just tell me what June's wedge-of-the-month issue will be, so I can get a head start scheming daemons May 2014 #96

You might want to ask those who actually spout things boston bean May 2014 #98

"race is a wedge issue" BainsBane May 2014 #114

yep. And it is those who disagree doing the wedging and dividing... boston bean May 2014 #115

Authoritarian much? CANDO May 2014 #227

You're too much. Accuse me of trying to make you agree boston bean May 2014 #250

Right handed heterosexual white male privileged! whistler162 May 2014 #140

You have been on DU since 2003, I have since 2001 - was there some time period that you can recall seaglass May 2014 #141

I have no problem with either subject matter scheming daemons May 2014 #156

Again: racism and sexism affect PoC and women EVERY DAY. redqueen May 2014 #166

That little email cabal is planned, PLANNED, I say!! Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #169

LOL! redqueen May 2014 #170

Scheming - You seem to be making a lot of accusations about the origins of discussions on seaglass May 2014 #174

That's totally unfair: Damansarajaya May 2014 #172

That's kind of what happens when you let the riff raff vote BainsBane May 2014 #60

It's just partisan passion minus the intellectual integrity with a big dollop of consumerism. rrneck May 2014 #64

Apparently, people need need to discuss those issues. dawg May 2014 #78

Its weird that there is push-back against a desire for better equality bhikkhu May 2014 #84

If you think regular discussion of white privilege and rape...... NCTraveler May 2014 #103

It hasn't been "regular" discussion scheming daemons May 2014 #123

Anyone who has been at this board for any length of time understands it is not weird. NCTraveler May 2014 #125

I ignore all of them. They are not discussions, they always seem to be battles. OregonBlue May 2014 #106

Crap? ismnotwasm May 2014 #111

Translation BainsBane May 2014 #116

What you have deemed as "crap" are issues that people of color and women Jamastiene May 2014 #120

From a select few passive agressive members with serious axe to grind. CANDO May 2014 #126

Why not just ignore them? nt redqueen May 2014 #129

you were flagged for review for good reason. boston bean May 2014 #132

Isn't that always the case? pintobean May 2014 #148

But, of course!!!!!! opiate69 May 2014 #183

Uh-oh pintobean May 2014 #187

Ah, good times Capt. Obvious May 2014 #213

You got flagged for review because you could not control your own self, Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #142

You should check your personal attacks at the door. You were hidden for good reason. PeaceNikki May 2014 #154

I felt that way too already, but then Damansarajaya May 2014 #173

Welcome to DU. redqueen May 2014 #180

on ignore . . . nt Damansarajaya May 2014 #228

Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bravenak May 2014 #188

The really strange thing imo, is watching all these old DU accounts suddenly becoming Rex May 2014 #135

No, no.... it is completely organic discussion on DU! No coordinated effort at all! scheming daemons May 2014 #157

Just another day on DU. Rex May 2014 #160

The conspiracy theories are amusing gollygee May 2014 #285

quite a sleuth you are Rex, found me out...please pay more attention to "posts in last 90 days" Demonaut May 2014 #175

Who said I was talking about you!? Rex May 2014 #320

ok, I see what you mean...I thought it was directed at me Demonaut May 2014 #338

personally I think it is time for a good ol porn thread nt arely staircase May 2014 #150

I don't see women onecaliberal May 2014 #155

Thank you. LeftOfWest May 2014 #192

It IS most definitely the point. onecaliberal May 2014 #232

And they really aren't! Though, to be honest..... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #322

But those who say we should be quiet would have onecaliberal May 2014 #326

Some folks just miss Meta. Sissyk May 2014 #159

more false equivalencies. boston bean May 2014 #178

So either we ignore our differences or we dont, we lockstep or we dont... randys1 May 2014 #163

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #190

You realize "Progressives Today" is an anti-progressive YouTube channel right? alp227 May 2014 #307

the weirdness is the tone deafness RainDog May 2014 #218

If these whites can,t handle the heat SaltyBro May 2014 #221

DU picks up a new Theme every few weeks - then discusses it to death Liberal_in_LA May 2014 #241

Distraction trolling? It IS weird and mostly disingenuous ecstatic May 2014 #243

I find it sad BainsBane May 2014 #273

Growing weary of being harangued about white privilege... Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #300

Yes, it does BainsBane May 2014 #301

I get the argument; I just don't see much useful in insisting that the issue of racism... Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #303

I no longer care BainsBane May 2014 #304

I admit I haven't read every post on this thread. Was someone making racist comments? Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #311

"I really don't think DU tolerates racists." We don't. Pure and simple. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #325

You must've missed the thread on "Asian privilege" Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #329

I didn't like that thread, either. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #330

Sure it does. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #331

We spin the Wheel of Outrage every week or so. -nt Liberal Veteran May 2014 #283

Ignore and trash thread are your friends. nt mn9driver May 2014 #290

That's where the "trash thread/keyword" functions come in handy. Jamaal510 May 2014 #306

The SoP is not enforced. Full stop. morningfog May 2014 #314

oh i don't know i find these contentious debates interesting! m-lekktor May 2014 #318

I think we have a bit of the old divide and conquer game going on here. Get something that DUers jwirr May 2014 #319

a lot of groups, political, corps use paid media to spread their 'points'. That means plenty of hire Sunlei May 2014 #327

I dunno... Lunacee_2013 May 2014 #335

It's emanating from Olive Garden. eom TransitJohn May 2014 #337

Well, it's still weird in the world. Women keep getting raped, minorities keep getting screwed, JTFrog May 2014 #344