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nookworld

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40. It's futitle with today's technology

Reply to BillZBubb (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:07 PM

Aug 2014

the Superior Military will win.

the nature of warfare has changed greatly with the introduction of high technology.

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Israel claims it is defending itself, but I have a question. [View all] Viva_Daddy Aug 2014 OP

There are rockets being fired at Israel hack89 Aug 2014 #1

That's what they tell me. Iggo Aug 2014 #5

Even if you don't have a tv leftynyc Aug 2014 #67

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #78

There are rockets being fired in both directions, in response to each other Recursion Aug 2014 #20

So perhaps Hamas needs to rethink their tactics hack89 Aug 2014 #33

I think they're following the template pretty closely Recursion Aug 2014 #42

There are fundamental differences though hack89 Aug 2014 #45

This is an excellent point. joshcryer Aug 2014 #50

Carry on blaming the victims intaglio Aug 2014 #56

Hamas is not a victim hack89 Aug 2014 #64

But Palestinians are the victims of Israeli oppression intaglio Aug 2014 #65

hamas is a terrorist organization that leftynyc Aug 2014 #69

hamas is a victim? leftynyc Aug 2014 #68

As you replied to my other post you know why it can be said intaglio Aug 2014 #72

I don't support the actions leftynyc Aug 2014 #74

Since the oppression of the Palestinians began with the formation of Israel intaglio Aug 2014 #75

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #41

I fired a rocket at my neighbors house on the 4th snooper2 Aug 2014 #93

Netanyahu was looking for any excuse to end the "peace negotiations". 4now Aug 2014 #2

I don't think Netanyahu wants peace. Viva_Daddy Aug 2014 #10

And the natural gas fields off the coast of Gaza... truth2power Aug 2014 #11

The really big gas fields are not off Gaza hack89 Aug 2014 #46

Oh. tut-tut Israel and the energy companies need that gas to make money intaglio Aug 2014 #57

Yeah, I was going to say that, in response... truth2power Aug 2014 #84

Does a town need to be destroyed to meet your definition of "defeneded"? ManiacJoe Aug 2014 #3

Yes. The IDF has proved to be very good at killing innocent children. 4now Aug 2014 #4

They are also good at killing Hamas members. ManiacJoe Aug 2014 #6

217 were armed militants - 1396 were Palestinian civilians 4now Aug 2014 #9

those numbers are coming from hamas Mosby Aug 2014 #13

No they are not 4now Aug 2014 #15

This ^^^^ intaglio Aug 2014 #58

The Israeli government is lying. Bald face lies. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #7

True. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #34

But hamas tells the truth? leftynyc Aug 2014 #70

Israel is not "defending" itself. It has already defeated its enemy and is now an occupying force. Maedhros Aug 2014 #8

This thread feels like a weird reprieve from the crushing weight elias49 Aug 2014 #12

No, this is very much like Ferguson. Viva_Daddy Aug 2014 #14

Yeah, but the difference is we know how the MidEast will end elias49 Aug 2014 #17

"Darkies" -your word-like her DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #81

Are you kidding? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #16

When was the last suicide bombing in Israel? (nt) Recursion Aug 2014 #19

Search it yourself and get to the point Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #21

I think the point's pretty clear... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #48

You sure? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #61

I'm sure. I'm happy to talk you through it till you get it... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #62

Right before Israel build a big wall hack89 Aug 2014 #47

Oh, yeah. That big wall Israel built that took a shitload of the West Bank... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #49

I keep coming back to this: why is Israel blocking *exports* from Gaza? Recursion Aug 2014 #18

It's a sanction if nothing else. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #22

Nope. Israel has to claim it's for security, otherwise it's an act of war Recursion Aug 2014 #23

Well their we patently disagree. That's fine. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2014 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Aug 2014 #27

The UN determined the blockade is legal leftynyc Aug 2014 #71

Because a boat leaving had to arrive to begin with. joshcryer Aug 2014 #51

Forbidding all offloading isn't very difficult Recursion Aug 2014 #99

I don't see how Israel couldn't allow everything but weapons to come in. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #82

I'm not talking about letting anything into Gaza. They're blocking *exports* Recursion Aug 2014 #88

When you attack someone you take the consequences. former9thward Aug 2014 #24

There are no such photos malaise Aug 2014 #25

Hard to feel sorry for Palestinians nookworld Aug 2014 #28

So, attempting to defend their rights is futile? They should just give Israel what it wants? BillZBubb Aug 2014 #30

It's futile to go to war against a superior military nookworld Aug 2014 #31

Nonsense. Tell that to the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #32

I don't buy the comparison to Viet Cong nookworld Aug 2014 #37

I can see you are a newbie here with just a few posts. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #39

It's futitle with today's technology nookworld Aug 2014 #40

Then why did Israel have to leave Gaza and Lebanon? Recursion Aug 2014 #43

Global outrage. joshcryer Aug 2014 #53

"...They would be wiped off the map by Muslim invaders..." DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #92

Wrong. You can speculate all you want, but you are wrong. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #44

Israel isn't invading to occupy Gaza Calista241 Aug 2014 #66

Of course it is a high bar, but you are wrong about where the fight has to occur. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #85

First time someone's accused be of being ill-informed Calista241 Aug 2014 #87

You have listed some of the problems and goals of an insurgency, but not nearly all. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #96

You are ignoring Sun Tzu's admonition DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #91

Not so. The Israelis can retreat to the 1967 borders. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #94

Do you think an invading army is going to stop at the Green Line , especially Hamas... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2014 #95

You've covered a lot ground here. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #97

How very comdescending, oh superior intellect. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #60

I know yr very new, but ever heard of the occupation? Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #52

500 children MFM008 Aug 2014 #54

The Israelis are defending themselves... BillZBubb Aug 2014 #29

"Israel wants to grab as much Palestinian land as possible" oberliner Aug 2014 #35

Prominent Israeli's have suggested it. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #36

I would be shocked if Israel attempts to take over Gaza oberliner Aug 2014 #77

The Westbank. The modus operandi: DetlefK Aug 2014 #55

But what does that have to do with the fighting in Gaza? oberliner Aug 2014 #76

What do you think, why neither side is willing to agree to peace? DetlefK Aug 2014 #80

Interesting analysis oberliner Aug 2014 #83

Does a person wearing a bullet proof vest... LostInAnomie Aug 2014 #38

Does a person taking a beating from a person in a bullet-proof vest intaglio Aug 2014 #59

When the Palestinian get the same kind of weapons that Israel has then Israel will be defending kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #63

So until then leftynyc Aug 2014 #73

It seems that some want just that, grossproffit Aug 2014 #79

Try a different site leftynyc Aug 2014 #89

No, the reality is if the Palestinians stopped resisting, Israel would take the rest of their land. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #86

That would be why they left Gaza leftynyc Aug 2014 #90

Israel left Gaza because it was too costly to occupy the area and protect the few settlements. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #98

Uh - no leftynyc Aug 2014 #100

Hamas committed the Passover Massacre on the day the Saudi Plan was adopted oberliner Aug 2014 #101

So? Extremists on both sides use provocations to scuttle peace efforts. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #102