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37. Nothing much good will happen in the next 6 years, true

Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:04 AM

Sep 2014

There isn't all that much that can be done to change the trajectory more than we did in the 2008-2010 period, and we're paying for that because we did so much that the backlash got Republicans elected in state houses and they'll control the redistricting process until the next census. (Why, incidentally, are we still using an apportionment system based on the constraints of 18th-century technology?)

This is a big ship; it turns slowly.

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Sadly, electing Bernie won't help [View all] hootinholler Sep 2014 OP

True--he'll need a Democratic Congress to do any good. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #1

As will ANY Dem who wins that election. djean111 Sep 2014 #4

Yup. Republicans won't work with ANY Dem no matter what unless... Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #5

The GOP would not work with Hillary either treestar Sep 2014 #17

As do all schoolyard bullies MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #22

It's not a schoolyard treestar Sep 2014 #23

You're just realizing this? LOL Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #2

I absolutely adore hootinholler Sep 2014 #3

It's what they do best, er, solely. morningfog Sep 2014 #11

Part of a President's job is to make this happen MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #6

No, it is not treestar Sep 2014 #9

The President has two relevant functions here. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #12

The President is not leader of the Democratic party treestar Sep 2014 #14

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #16

The President is the de facto leader of his political party Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #29

LBJ was Caretha Sep 2014 #43

Bernie has a lot of friends and connections in Congress he has Cleita Sep 2014 #7

For goodness sake! treestar Sep 2014 #10

Why is Liberal Elizabeth Warren in demand by Dem candidates in red states, MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #13

Nonresponsive to the post responded to treestar Sep 2014 #15

LOL. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #20

Yeah, right, the nation that elects a Republican Congress treestar Sep 2014 #26

Following that line of argument, nothing will help at all, no matter what. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #21

That's oversimplified treestar Sep 2014 #25

Nothing much good will happen in the next 6 years, true Recursion Sep 2014 #37

And why are we still keeping the size of the U.S. House at 435 seats? Ken Burch Sep 2014 #40

Have you ever seen the House:5000 initiative? (I think it's called that) Recursion Sep 2014 #41

Hadn't seen that. Interesting idea. n/t. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #42

Tell us what influential legislation Bernie has authored and gotten through Congress to a law? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #36

He's done some very good floor amendments, and he was instrumental in passing ACA Recursion Sep 2014 #38

He's not Reid or Pelosi in his present position, but if he were I think Cleita Sep 2014 #39

I think you should re-read your own premise, then we'll talk about "valid". Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #45

See my reply below Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #48

If his so-called "influence" were what we're hearing it is, why didn't we get single payer? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #49

If Bernie has so many connections that count.... Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #47

Sorry, I should've read your response, downthread, first. Great minds. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #50

Because he's not President. Cleita Sep 2014 #52

So in order for a Congressman to get legilsation through the legislative branch of government Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #53

Be specific? Cleita Sep 2014 #56

Like I said... Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #57

Betcha he could get the Tea Party to shut up. Cleita Sep 2014 #58

No, no, no, we just need the right POTUS!!!!!!!! treestar Sep 2014 #8

Strawman and you know it. n/t. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #19

Not a strawman. Actual argument put forward by actual persons cheapdate Sep 2014 #28

We all know we need a better Congress, too. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #18

that is a bit of an overstatement dsc Sep 2014 #24

TPTB will not allow anyone left of center to be nominated, much less elected. Hell, indepat Sep 2014 #27

Of course it would G_j Sep 2014 #30

"When he campaigns"? There is an election this year. arcane1 Sep 2014 #31

It sure as hell will not hurt SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2014 #32

Dont misunderstand the power of the presidency Report1212 Sep 2014 #33

He's been campaigning on GOTV. Posted a video and it was the saddest thing I ever saw with him. freshwest Sep 2014 #34

What's wrong with GOTV? Cleita Sep 2014 #35

That's where Bernie's "influence" or lack thereof, could be invaluable. GOTV. He certainly has a.. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #46

... n2doc Sep 2014 #44

If his success as President in working with Congress can be predicted by his success pnwmom Sep 2014 #51

well, these things take time. unblock Sep 2014 #54

Would apply to Warren RadicalGeek Sep 2014 #55

If he campaigns I think he will be putting upaloopa Sep 2014 #59

I think that's his plan, however, he said on the radio Friday he's also Cleita Sep 2014 #60

We we can hope upaloopa Sep 2014 #61

He already has. tazkcmo Sep 2014 #62