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randome

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73. Castigate him for enforcing the law?

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 05:55 PM

Sep 2014

You're doing exactly what I said: blaming him for NOT making his own law.

Holder has, at the very least, a mixed bag as AG. To emphasize the negative is to ignore what he accomplished. I'm not saying to make him your personal hero. But look at the facts.
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Such irrational hatred from DU... [View all] Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 OP

They leap and cackle with glee for the opportunity to shit on someone. randome Sep 2014 #1

I guess when you're full of it, you've got to dump it somewhere. Shame they follow foreigner TV. nt TheBlackAdder Sep 2014 #13

Their beds are full, what are they supposed to do? TheCowsCameHome Sep 2014 #89

DUers have complained abt Holder's policies for some time leftstreet Sep 2014 #2

Many DUers would have been just as glad to see Bobby Kennedy gone frazzled Sep 2014 #14

Na'. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #26

Oh yeah? Who are the 'same people'? Demit Sep 2014 #96

I suggest you read GD~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #107

No shit. Bobbie Jo Sep 2014 #172

They always wish us to do their homework for them Bobbie Jo! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #176

No. The Kennedy's are beyond reproach at DU... SidDithers Sep 2014 #35

I am just learning about that, it's very dissappointing, and dangerous! LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #40

I remember Malcolm X offering to send JFK a pen. LoisB Sep 2014 #41

Thank you LoisB Caretha Sep 2014 #135

thank you n/t 1dogleft Sep 2014 #86

I'm not so sure the rationale is the same ybbor Sep 2014 #64

I think you are rare in your allowing for some accomplishment frazzled Sep 2014 #102

Agreed ybbor Sep 2014 #108

That's exactly why my mom's family marym625 Sep 2014 #91

For vastly different reasons, but don't let that trouble you. Electric Monk Sep 2014 #3

Yep. n/t Throd Sep 2014 #6

+1000 phantom power Sep 2014 #8

critical thinking skills allows one to know the difference Skittles Sep 2014 #81

Well, that's the problem right there. n/t QC Sep 2014 #169

Exactly mvd Sep 2014 #181

Yes a pity Autumn Sep 2014 #4

I guess there is one accepted view on the AG upaloopa Sep 2014 #5

Here it is: Gman Sep 2014 #23

I'm 68 yrs old. I was born when Truman was upaloopa Sep 2014 #39

Thank you. nt snappyturtle Sep 2014 #85

Thank you a zillion++++ 840high Sep 2014 #173

Not a fair comparison at all tularetom Sep 2014 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Sep 2014 #9

Because allowing torture, massive fraud, domestic spying, and indefinite detention OnyxCollie Sep 2014 #10

It's amazing how much they have in common, ain't it? They hate all the same people. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #11

You mean like Alan Grayson? Union Scribe Sep 2014 #111

Hate anybody you want. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #165

I surely do believe sheshe2 Sep 2014 #146

It's called plausible deniability. Either that, or just out & out fibbing. I, honestly, don't see.. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #164

Holy..... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #168

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service XemaSab Sep 2014 #201

Luckily, she got a real jury of her peers. That wins hands down for the most ridiculous alert EVER! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #204

It is NEVER right to criticize the leaders of the Party Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #12

Of course, even when it's smearing President Obama on DU davidpdx Sep 2014 #188

Oh, bullshit! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #207

I find myself in agreement with Stalin who also... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #15

+1,000 LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #46

Well played! Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #63

Our lips are now sealed. There it is again, we. must. not. ever. legitimately. criticize. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #16

Hardly, whether it be policies or accomplishments it seems to be fair game on DU davidpdx Sep 2014 #191

Hatred? BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #17

I beg to differ. nt sheshe2 Sep 2014 #90

So you do not understand the difference between criticizing someone's work performance BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #98

Oooh ya. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #105

+1 SunSeeker Sep 2014 #106

Thank you SunSeeker. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #110

You realize you didn't do what was asked of you joeglow3 Sep 2014 #122

Do you wish me to get a hide as well? sheshe2 Sep 2014 #129

Post to a thread with it in it joeglow3 Sep 2014 #131

Nope! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #132

Email it to me joeglow3 Sep 2014 #133

Nope... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #134

... Electric Monk Sep 2014 #137

Wipe out? sheshe2 Sep 2014 #180

I did a google search of DU And found nothing joeglow3 Sep 2014 #139

Better ye. Post in a thread with the hatred. joeglow3 Sep 2014 #148

Crickets, while still misrepresenting reality elsewhere Electric Monk Sep 2014 #187

great link! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #199

Links? BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #125

See post 124~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #126

I guess substance is impossible BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #127

... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #128

Perhaps Caretha Sep 2014 #138

Wow, you said..."Perhaps you don't know when "a job is well done"." Realy Caretha? sheshe2 Sep 2014 #151

Here's what your "civil rights" hero Caretha Sep 2014 #153

That Nation article doesn't blame marijuana arrests on Holder. SunSeeker Sep 2014 #183

+1 Thank you! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #185

You're welcome. I know how it feels to get ganged up on. SunSeeker Sep 2014 #190

Not happening SunSeeker. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #192

+ 2 BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #140

Good try BTW~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #124

Look, Republicans will ALWAYS attack Dem candidates, officeholders, and appointees tkmorris Sep 2014 #18

Hitler was a vegetarian and non smoker. Hence everybody who eats vegetable and doesn't smoke is Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #19

Whining about DU is a time honored tradition. Rex Sep 2014 #20

Funny, aren't you espousing Reagan's "Eleventh Commandment?" n/t Scootaloo Sep 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #22

Many Republicans say the sky is blue, you going to argue against that too? dilby Sep 2014 #24

Most republicans have no idea what color the 'sky' is, unfortunately. elleng Sep 2014 #29

And why? Becuase their heads are up their asses all the time. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #42

Lame Caretha Sep 2014 #141

Yes they are. elleng Sep 2014 #144

Could you find Caretha Sep 2014 #149

I followed dilby's comment about blue sky. elleng Sep 2014 #194

It's the why that matters. nt RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #25

Damn right, Irish. elleng Sep 2014 #27

OH NO!!!! BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #28

So you're on board with letting the Bankster go free? FlatStanley Sep 2014 #30

So, Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #31

DU rec... SidDithers Sep 2014 #32

Canada? BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #36

Potato?...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #37

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #61

Yup! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #200

Ideologically speaking, you're much closer to the GOP than those you accuse. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #66

... SidDithers Sep 2014 #69

Yes, but are you able to answer my post with, you know...words? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #70

Nailed it! n/t SixString Sep 2014 #77

Game, set, match. (n/t) CrawlingChaos Sep 2014 #170

That amazing indulgence I came across in British Columbia: freshwest Sep 2014 #195

"They" do bobduca Sep 2014 #119

That's the best you got, Moochy?...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #121

Think Local , stop acting globally... bobduca Sep 2014 #159

Nah, that place is full of zombies...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #174

Check this one out, maybe more your speed! bobduca Sep 2014 #178

Sid Sid Sid Caretha Sep 2014 #142

for all the doubting Thomas's on this thread, how about this "good riddance" example? Sheepshank Sep 2014 #33

I recced that OP, I read it and it's pretty much right . What part isn't true? Autumn Sep 2014 #43

37 recs for that one. That explains why he made another one. That one's sitting at 85 recs Number23 Sep 2014 #206

War crimes BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #34

I couldn't read here today with all that dripping hate, the same kind that Obama has to take. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #38

I hope you'll help us all remember leftstreet Sep 2014 #57

Oh, my, taking names, are you? Will you be brandishing a list at some point? djean111 Sep 2014 #59

They found the right group. pintobean Sep 2014 #87

No list needed. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #97

Irrational? Hardly ... Scuba Sep 2014 #44

Hey.. no fair using his actual record... SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #47

Yes, Holder sucks, and so do fallacious guilt-by-association arguments. Vattel Sep 2014 #45

Republicans eat donuts. And I eat donuts. progressoid Sep 2014 #48

What a great point LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #49

I know, right? that's how I know the OPs are *not* part of any campaign and are letting their brains MisterP Sep 2014 #60

I have praised Holder for his civil rights work and criticized him for his failure cali Sep 2014 #50

Name-calling should solve that problem. arcane1 Sep 2014 #51

Only to a BOGger would disappointment be considered hatred. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #52

it's only for THIS prez Skittles Sep 2014 #82

You mean toward liberals? I have noticed that too. Doctor_J Sep 2014 #53

Depends on the substance JonLP24 Sep 2014 #54

So.... AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #55

Again, the hate-fest begins, not for something someone did, but for something he didn't do. randome Sep 2014 #56

I'm sorry but that does not fly.. at all.. Here are some things Holder actually DID SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #72

Castigate him for enforcing the law? randome Sep 2014 #73

Bullshit. Those people on that list were all operating LEGALLY SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #76

So you think he simply likes screwing over strangers whenever he can find the time? randome Sep 2014 #84

Thank you bobduca Sep 2014 #115

Well said. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #154

Negative people, by definition, aren't for anything. They're stuck in a rut and will stay that way. freshwest Sep 2014 #205

The republicans don't seem to like ISIS very much. They must be good people then. hughee99 Sep 2014 #58

Hahahahaha AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #62

Truly an impressive exercise in BOGlogic. QC Sep 2014 #65

Thread win! Rex Sep 2014 #68

You kidding? Republicans lurve them some ISIS, they just won't admit it out loud Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #71

on what planet do the wingnuts in the GOP like muslims? m-lekktor Sep 2014 #116

And here's why your 100% wrong... hughee99 Sep 2014 #120

There are degrees joeglow3 Sep 2014 #123

Really? John McCain seemed to be happy when he met with them. stevenleser Sep 2014 #155

Wasn't McCain, just last week, "vouching" for various Syran groups in hopes of arming them hughee99 Sep 2014 #196

When one only looks at one issue it may be bad, when you look at the overall record it is good. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #67

Hear! Hear! eom BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #143

At this point, they've had to go to a Ron Paul supporter for substantive msanthrope Sep 2014 #74

Who is 'they?' n/t leftstreet Sep 2014 #75

Speaking as a Bogger myself, I do respect Holder but he wasn't perfect. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #78

Please provide some context, sir Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #79

Hyperbolic fail. blackspade Sep 2014 #80

Bingo! BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #83

Completely unrecommended. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #88

Nothing "irrational" about it. 99Forever Sep 2014 #92

K & R Iliyah Sep 2014 #93

You do realize you're saying any criticism of the Obama Administration from people on the left is Marr Sep 2014 #94

There is quite the difference between healthy criticism and outright irrational rage. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #101

It appears "irrational" was the word of the day LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #109

True. You can always tell when Message Discipline has sent out the new talking points. n/t QC Sep 2014 #112

reflexive ... does that change AGs critics minds? nah.. they still hate him no matter what words uponit7771 Sep 2014 #136

this argument bobduca Sep 2014 #118

Eric Holder fought Texas voter disenfranchisement all the way to the Supreme Court. cheapdate Sep 2014 #95

Shouldn't we expect a Democratic AG to fight GOP voter suppression? LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #100

Yes. cheapdate Sep 2014 #104

Not defending DOMA LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #113

Fair enough. cheapdate Sep 2014 #150

The four of these charlatan rubes Plucketeer Sep 2014 #99

Just because Repukes don't like him doesn't mean we have to blow him IkeRepublican Sep 2014 #103

Such BS bobduca Sep 2014 #114

I think holder was a good ag gwheezie Sep 2014 #117

This OP is all about you trying to establish a centrist baseline for "normal" around here. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #130

Holder has done a poor job Harmony Blue Sep 2014 #145

Those posting the hatred ... NanceGreggs Sep 2014 #147

You know Nance Caretha Sep 2014 #152

Problem is, she's right. '4' might seem a boring answer in response to 2+2 but is right and it stevenleser Sep 2014 #156

Oh stevenleser Caretha Sep 2014 #157

It's pretty obviously makes sense. You said Nance 'needs a less boring and fresher meme' stevenleser Sep 2014 #158

I get it Caretha Sep 2014 #160

But... "It's pretty obviously makes sense." Don't you see the logic in that? Electric Monk Sep 2014 #161

I try Caretha Sep 2014 #163

That message brought to you by scotchy scotch scotch bobduca Sep 2014 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #162

Well if Nance bores you, oh wait, she always has bored you. lol! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #175

Excuse me Caretha Sep 2014 #177

Oh my~ sheshe2 Sep 2014 #184

The truth of that matter is that WAS used on DU davidpdx Sep 2014 #186

OMG Caretha Sep 2014 #189

Too bad you're "bored".. "POS Used Car Salesman" hurt no one but the writer of that Cha Sep 2014 #202

Thank you nt gwheezie Sep 2014 #166

You nailed it Nance. SunSeeker Sep 2014 #167

+1! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #193

Here's what AG Holder has Accomplished that his attackers on DU won't Acknowledge, DIrish.. Cha Sep 2014 #171

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #198

This is the new DU. Old and In the Way Sep 2014 #182

You can be unhappy about an AG's policy's without being a right winger Wella Sep 2014 #197

wow. like rats from a sinking ship. for real Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #203