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pampango

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113. Which is why we should always support the most liberal (least conservative) candidate in every

Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:36 AM

Oct 2014

election - primary or general - then agitate after the election to keep the elected Democrat governing from as far left as possible.

The strategy has worked well for tea partiers from the opposite direction. They try to defeat "mainstream" republicans during the primaries (sometimes to the extent of nominating unelectable conservatives) then support the republican candidate in the general election because they hate liberals that much then keep pushing the republican winner as far to the right as possible after the election.

I'm sure they don't like voting for 'liberal', mainstream republicans if their far-right wacko loses the primary but they do it anyway because they hate real liberals more than their own 'mainstream' republicans. Then they keep the pressure on the 'mainstream' guy after the election and try to defeat him again the next time. That strategy has given them a majority in the House already and perhaps in the Senate as well after November.

They aren't stupid just hateful.

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Do I have this right? There are DUers who [View all] upaloopa Oct 2014 OP

no, i think some people are just attention whores JI7 Oct 2014 #1

or are assholes madokie Oct 2014 #8

I think I see two right now. 99Forever Oct 2014 #22

I hope you're not looking at me madokie Oct 2014 #24

I can't speak for anyone else Aerows Oct 2014 #2

I hardly EVER say this RiffRandell Oct 2014 #25

Woot! Aerows Oct 2014 #44

Not this year, I'm not. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #40

Goodness--I hope not. They should get out and vote Democratic so we can maintain Democratic control Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #3

Is it worth voting in MA? Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #30

After that Scott Brown #%^* up MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #38

Which Scott Brown #%^* up? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #54

Actually, it was the TheCowsCameHome Oct 2014 #67

We elected the fellow to office MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #83

Yes, it absolutely is worth voting--Baker is throwing a ton of money into the race. MADem Oct 2014 #59

Yes, he can. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2014 #68

The lesser of two is just lesser FlatStanley Oct 2014 #47

Even if you believe this bullshit, what's wrong with lessening evil? whatthehey Oct 2014 #141

And they call themselves "democrats"..... femmocrat Oct 2014 #4

Small d "democrats" believing in voting for what they believe is right. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #48

Or perhaps they are not Democrats at all! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #76

You mean the Krugman that gets trashed on DU when he trashes the President? FlatStanley Oct 2014 #80

read it.....I think you'll know... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #82

Those with no imagination are called Republicans. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #88

seriously? FireDogLake? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #115

Did you read the article? FlatStanley Oct 2014 #117

No serious person reads firebaggerlake. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #121

Come back soon, again... SidDithers Oct 2014 #139

Oh they will... zappaman Oct 2014 #142

My team GummyBearz Oct 2014 #90

My FDR Voting Grandparents....voted Democratic and supported them their whole lives... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #116

Here in Oklahoma... NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #5

I always vote for the Dem candidate, even when they don't have a chance. No Vested Interest Oct 2014 #52

Where I lived the first portion of my life in OKC you couldn't get an R elected. They didn't jtuck004 Oct 2014 #74

Times have changed. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #166

Yeah, all those ball fields and farms and drive-ins and the watermelon stand. Became jtuck004 Oct 2014 #167

Could be Andy823 Oct 2014 #6

I say it, and I am a Demcrat. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #49

You just made Andy's point. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #122

Yep nt Andy823 Oct 2014 #136

Yup. That's right. baldguy Oct 2014 #7

In fairness on that point rpannier Oct 2014 #32

My choice of Dems sucks. Wait Wut Oct 2014 #9

Me voting for Crist is not a feel good operation either. L0oniX Oct 2014 #39

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #51

What ever that means. L0oniX Oct 2014 #127

FYI HERVEPA Oct 2014 #140

I don't like it either OriginalGeek Oct 2014 #84

You're in Florida eh.... SomethingFishy Oct 2014 #119

Thanks ...I feel so much better now. L0oniX Oct 2014 #128

Voting! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #10

oh yeah. The (snicker) REAL Democrats. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #11

Not I. I have held my nose and voted for Dianne Feinstein for as long as she Cleita Oct 2014 #12

You and I are in the same boat. upaloopa Oct 2014 #15

I think it's called money. Her husband is quite wealthy and quite the war profiteer Cleita Oct 2014 #16

She has always been a centrist and, as mayor, vetoed domestic partner legislation. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #145

She needs to gooooooooooooooo BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #34

Who've we got in the pipeline? For real, I mean. nt Hekate Oct 2014 #91

I've just heard people talk, I haven't heard any real scoop BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #103

It was you who said our very senior Senator has to goooooooo. So you must know of an alternative. Hekate Oct 2014 #152

She is a DINO and a war profiteer BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #161

Again, who that you know of is in the pipeline? Hekate Oct 2014 #162

I haven't. Xithras Oct 2014 #150

No, you don't have this right. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #13

Well, there is at least one person upthread defending the idea and saying he won't vote. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #123

That's ok, we get the government we deserve. CK_John Oct 2014 #14

No, apparently we get the government YOU deserve frazzled Oct 2014 #35

This ^^^^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2014 #63

Damn SKIPPY! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #77

And what you are saying is that you don't give a crap about the standards of the person rhett o rick Oct 2014 #87

If you are not committed to vote for whom VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #154

DAYUM, frazzled! What a GREAT meme!!! calimary Oct 2014 #89

What frazzled said. nt Hekate Oct 2014 #99

+100000000 Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #118

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #148

Oh for fu*k's sake! mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #17

I just sent a little $ to Hagan. Tillis is an evil Koch bastard. Lex Oct 2014 #19

It's the Ralph Nader Effect. onehandle Oct 2014 #18

Aww Christ. RiffRandell Oct 2014 #23

I dunno, where did you get that idea from? Rex Oct 2014 #20

Just look upthread. At least one DUer is proud of the fact they aren't voting. Others are stevenleser Oct 2014 #124

They need to move to a country where you don't get a vote Rex Oct 2014 #133

I'm in Kentucky... Tom_Foolery Oct 2014 #21

From what I've seen here, yes. You've got it right. n/t Triana Oct 2014 #26

Link, or slink. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #27

Not needed. You can see examples on this thread. riqster Oct 2014 #131

Yes Andy823 Oct 2014 #138

I don't always vote "for" someone... Wounded Bear Oct 2014 #28

Could be. elleng Oct 2014 #29

Do I have this right ..... bread_and_roses Oct 2014 #31

I am voting ABC riverbendviewgal Oct 2014 #33

Booker is up for reelection JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #36

My hero! And yes, I can hardly wait for my ballot to arrive in the mail. freshwest Oct 2014 #93

*yawn* Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #37

Thank you! nt Pholus Oct 2014 #106

It's astonishing, yes, but we see that crap every election. DavidDvorkin Oct 2014 #41

Certainly will vote for Merkley and other Dems here in Oregon. JEB Oct 2014 #42

Plenty of Dems voted for Ralph Nader to teach Gore a lesson (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #43

Gore still won the state. Shrike47 Oct 2014 #45

Yeah, but the Nader voters made it too close for comfort. (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #57

Yes. There DUers with standards. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #46

Yes, standards that will allow the vile alternative arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #55

You're right. A slow march to the right, like the frog boiling in the water FlatStanley Oct 2014 #71

As do I but they are closer to the goal than arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #94

And movin further away with each capitulation. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #97

And there are some DUers who want Republicans in office ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #70

I want Democrats in office. Charlie Christ merely has a D next to his name. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #73

Actually. Chan790 Oct 2014 #75

I didn't realize a single statement qualifies as a righteous rant. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #78

Actually didn't run as a Dem the last time, did he? Didn't he have his own 'Liebermann Party'? TIA. freshwest Oct 2014 #95

Apparently so..... Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #126

I'll be happily voting for Al Franken. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #50

If that is the case then they are idiots. It is arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #53

I'll personally roll naked across a floor of broken glass to keep that bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #56

Accusations in the form of a question, eh? demwing Oct 2014 #58

And notice they don't come back to answer any questions. Rex Oct 2014 #64

Just read through this very thread for abundant examples. That is the answer you crave. nt Hekate Oct 2014 #100

This is still a hit and run OP. Rex Oct 2014 #120

Really abundant? I see one PPRed person posting multiple times. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #146

I hope that is not right... Mike Nelson Oct 2014 #60

I don't know… Do you? MrMickeysMom Oct 2014 #61

No senate race in my state. JoeyT Oct 2014 #62

you have it wrong Doctor_J Oct 2014 #65

I am in Georgia where there is a tight race RebelOne Oct 2014 #66

Without the left pushing for further progressivism.. RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #69

Ralphie, is that you? How'd that assertion work the last time? nt Hekate Oct 2014 #101

My post wasn't concerning whether or not liberals should vote for big D democrats RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #107

The assertion that there's no difference is all the condemnation I need. nt Hekate Oct 2014 #149

Cute, but not at all what I said. nt RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #157

Here in Iowa krobar659 Oct 2014 #72

Not all democrats have logic in their repertoire of skills. It is STUPID not to vote! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #79

As always, I'll do whatever the hell I want whatchamacallit Oct 2014 #81

A few people on DU are not going to make a difference in one race. Lil Missy Oct 2014 #85

Where did you get that from? nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #86

Yeah, there are such DUers, doing their best to suppress the vote. Hekate Oct 2014 #92

I grok ya Hekate Caretha Oct 2014 #114

Yes, you have it right. But take a look at the reasons why by 1SBM: freshwest Oct 2014 #96

well I guess we all knew this time would get here. The time where people get bullied into voting liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #98

I always vote. For who depends on the issues and policies. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #102

Not me! get the red out Oct 2014 #104

Or they're mad at the President leftynyc Oct 2014 #105

Posters at RO (Republican Overground) are urging Democrats to reject imperfect candidates as well. pampango Oct 2014 #108

When we vote for conservative candidates demwing Oct 2014 #110

Which is why we should always support the most liberal (least conservative) candidate in every pampango Oct 2014 #113

If Democrats don't vote in GA we'll get another Saxby Chambliss aikoaiko Oct 2014 #109

If choose not to choose, you still have made a choice liberal N proud Oct 2014 #111

Wow, Perfectly put. riqster Oct 2014 #132

So what? demwing Oct 2014 #112

Then it is better to cast no votes in a tight upaloopa Oct 2014 #130

Vote for the candidates that support Democratic issues demwing Oct 2014 #147

You are wrong. When two candidates run against each other upaloopa Oct 2014 #159

Any election has 5 possible outcomes demwing Oct 2014 #160

Do you have Links?...I see some here SAYING that there are KoKo Oct 2014 #125

Look upthread at FlatStanleys posts. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #134

And two others, at least. nt Hekate Oct 2014 #151

Yes. Not many, but some. riqster Oct 2014 #129

Not here. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #135

Petulance isn't just for conservatives. I guess these fools don't care about their local elections? arcane1 Oct 2014 #137

That's what I've been reading. CakeGrrl Oct 2014 #143

Voting (or not) for a candidate doesn't make him or her more or less liberal. Orsino Oct 2014 #144

If people quit voting for crappy Democrats, the establishment would stop running them. Xithras Oct 2014 #153

I really dont think it makes much of difference. Rep/Dem, 2 ends of the same worm. bowens43 Oct 2014 #155

So you would vote for Zell Miller? Reter Oct 2014 #156

Against a Saxby Chambliss? i.e. a Georgia Republican vs a Georgia Democrat? Yes, in a heartbeat stevenleser Oct 2014 #158

No, Zell Miller was much more conservative than you remember Reter Oct 2014 #165

Political REALITY, not Political Utopia Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #163

According to polls, my Senate Dem candidate has no chance Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2014 #164