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KoKo

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14. Remember Ahmed Chalabi....Curveball?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:22 PM
Apr 2012
Invasion of Iraq

Ahmed Chalabi alongside US President George W. Bush and Jalal Talabani

Before the war, the CIA was largely skeptical of Chalabi and the INC, but information allegedly from his group (most famously from a defector codenamed "Curveball&quot made its way into intelligence dossiers used by President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair to justify an invasion of Iraq. "Curveball" – allegedly the brother of one of Chalabi's top lieutenants – fed officials hundreds of pages of bogus "firsthand" descriptions of mobile biological weapons factories on wheels and rails. Secretary of State Colin Powell later used this information in a U.N. presentation trying to garner support for the war, despite warnings from German intelligence that "Curveball" was fabricating claims. Since then, the CIA has admitted that the defector made up the story, and Powell apologized for using the information in his speech. A later congressionally appointed investigation (Robb-Silberman) concluded that Curveball had no relation whatsoever to the INC, and that press reports linking Curveball to the INC were erroneous.[15]

The INC often worked with the media, most notably with Judith Miller, concerning her WMD stories for The New York Times starting on February 26, 1998.[16] After the war, given the lack of discovery of WMDs, most of the WMD claims of the INC were shown to have been either misleading, exaggerated, or completely made up while INC information about the whereabouts of Saddam Hussein's loyalists and Chalabi's personal enemies were accurate. Another of Chalabi's advocates was American Enterprise Institute's Iraq specialist Danielle Pletka. Chalabi received advice on media and television presentation techniques from the Irish scriptwriter and commentator Eoghan Harris prior to the invasion of Iraq.[17]
Chalabi in discussion with Paul Bremer and US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld


As U.S. forces took control during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, Chalabi returned under their aegis and was given a position on the Iraq interim governing council by the Coalition Provisional Authority. He served as president of the council in September 2003. He denounced a plan to let the UN choose an interim government for Iraq. "We are grateful to President Bush for liberating Iraq, but it is time for the Iraqi people to run their affairs," he was quoted as saying in The New York Times.[18]

In August 2003, Chalabi was the only candidate whose unfavorable ratings exceeded his favorable ones with Iraqis in a State Department poll.[19] In a survey of nearly 3,000 Iraqis in February 2004 (by Oxford Research International, sponsored by the BBC in the United Kingdom, ABC in the U.S., ARD of Germany, and the NHK in Japan), only 0.2 percent of respondents said he was the most trustworthy leader in Iraq (see survey link below, question #13). A secret document written in 2002 by the British Overseas and Defence Secretariat reportedly described Chalabi as "a convicted fraudster popular on Capitol Hill."[20]

In response to the WMD controversy, Chalabi told London's Daily Telegraph in February 2004, "We are heroes in error. As far as we're concerned, we've been entirely successful. That tyrant Saddam is gone and the Americans are in Baghdad. What was said before is not important. The Bush administration is looking for a scapegoat."[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Chalabi

If it hadn't been him there were 100 more in line behind him. DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #1
+1. He could very well be being paid to take them off the hook, too. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #6
He was strictly a tool for bolstering Dimson's/Shooter's reason to attack Iraq. pacalo Apr 2012 #36
Curveball? Turbineguy Apr 2012 #2
''We went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie.'' Octafish Apr 2012 #3
Remember Ahmed Chalabi....Curveball? KoKo Apr 2012 #14
''We are heroes in error.'' -- Ahmed Chalabi, interim oil minister of NewIraq 4.3. Octafish Apr 2012 #41
I think there needs to be some indictments Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #26
Given the slight interest in this on this Democratic site...I wouldn't hold my breath.... KoKo Apr 2012 #28
That is my express rationale for continuing to bring these inconvenient truths up for discussion. Octafish Apr 2012 #42
right, uh uh. newspeak Apr 2012 #43
Yeah. I noticed that, too. Octafish Apr 2012 #47
These people manipulate for their own greed Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #49
Sexed up huh...is that the same as 'fucking lied through their teeth?' Rex Apr 2012 #4
I can't get it out of my head get the red out Apr 2012 #15
That was a "joke" he did at one of the DC dinners--correspondents, or one similar. MADem Apr 2012 #22
Supposed to be funny, yes get the red out Apr 2012 #39
oh, the joke was not on the news media newspeak Apr 2012 #44
Well that's true get the red out Apr 2012 #45
I know, while he was bending over looking under tables Rex Apr 2012 #24
i blame the people who believed him 100% spanone Apr 2012 #5
I bet no US station will air it or report on it. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #7
if powell feels any rage, it's only because curveball's spilling it now. unblock Apr 2012 #8
Actually, Powell was said to have called the script he was given "bullshit", Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #33
Ho Hum If it hadn't been him intaglio Apr 2012 #9
There's that word again, "confidence." Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #10
Time to 'interrogate' Cheney for the truth from his end malaise Apr 2012 #11
I'm sure most of his countrymen would prefer Saddam had died Warpy Apr 2012 #12
"Intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy" gratuitous Apr 2012 #13
Won't be published here get the red out Apr 2012 #16
Yeah, and no shit gratuitous Apr 2012 #17
I wonder lsewpershad Apr 2012 #18
How is this man alive? felix_numinous Apr 2012 #19
Just a useful idiot. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #20
The decision was made to go in long before 9/11 Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #34
Bullshit! He was nothing but a fig leaf for Cheney/Bush to cover their own lies. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #21
Curveball could lie and lie all he wanted to. The Bush administration believed him and improved him. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #23
He was part of Judith Miller and Chalabi....so...I think his lies ...bore fruit.. KoKo Apr 2012 #25
exactly Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #27
Curveball didn't talk to the Project for a New American Century. He talked to governments. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #31
Believed him? whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #29
Believed him. The Bush Administration didn't tell him what to say. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #32
Where is the fucking outrage in all of this..... WCGreen Apr 2012 #30
I remember when I actually thought common sense would step in & the checks & balances pacalo Apr 2012 #35
Absolutely... WCGreen Apr 2012 #37
That's been the way our country has been run for a long time. Look at the Viet Nam War. Selatius Apr 2012 #38
When the U.S. wants to invade a nation RainDog Apr 2012 #40
Probably far more than 100K deaths. Plus maiming, destruction of families, loss of cultural wiggs Apr 2012 #46
Downing Street memos? Royal Sloan 09 Apr 2012 #48
He was drunk out of his mind and we only used the translation from the German interrogations underpants Apr 2012 #50
A nation of laws? 90-percent Apr 2012 #51
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