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54. Another good point. Present police states certainly don't have to resemble

Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:04 PM

Dec 2014

historical police states. Police states in the past used powerful leaders, thousands of spies in every neighborhood, police run amok. We're getting the 'police run amok' part going, but we have replaced the 'strong leader' and 'thousands of spies' with anonymous corporate control and vast electronic surveillance. The surveillance we are under today is an order of magnitude higher than any surveillance in the past, even the recent past. It also is invisible to most of those surveiled, so they aren't alarmed -- it's not like there's a shadowy STASI agent standing outside under the streetlight, looking up at your window. You won't know anything until they bust your door in at 2 a.m.

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What I Did After Police Killed My Son [View all] Man from Pickens Dec 2014 OP

We live in a police state. end of story. KG Dec 2014 #1

no no no! Where's Hitler? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #3

It hurts because it's true. :( AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #4

"Police state" is a gross exaggeration Major Nikon Dec 2014 #8

I tend to think of it as a spectrum of problems. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #12

Certainly they are genuine and serious problems which a civilized society needs to address Major Nikon Dec 2014 #18

Yes, a police state is being constructed around us. And yes, it's used to further political goals woo me with science Dec 2014 #28

one HELL of a post Woo... druidity33 Dec 2014 #32

That deserves its own thread Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #34

Here's the problem with your theory Major Nikon Dec 2014 #36

Ah, this goes hand in hand with sexism = women's fault / what we want or deserve.... bettyellen Dec 2014 #39

Pantload Major Nikon Dec 2014 #40

close grahampuba Dec 2014 #51

I pick my words carefully Major Nikon Dec 2014 #58

But we voted Obama in to dial down the wars and the spying, only to find Nay Dec 2014 #52

Which only proves that we are a nation of low interest voters Major Nikon Dec 2014 #57

I 'm not sure what you're getting at here. Nay Dec 2014 #59

+1 on the "OP of its own" reply. Thanks woo! Scuba Dec 2014 #47

That was like the Death Star of posts! Blasting away at the bullshit with an unimaginable magnitude TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #49

more here ...yea that's right ...I saved this stuff ...I think it was one of your posts. L0oniX Mar 2015 #60

the same people will tell you sexism is not an issue because we're not Saudi Arabia, LOL. bettyellen Dec 2014 #38

Exactly! And then when we get ordered into burkas, they say, "Who could have Nay Dec 2014 #53

no need for hyperbole, when so many women have no access to reproductive choice, but thanks bettyellen Dec 2014 #56

If the cops can accost anyone for any reason and demand papers Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #13

I don't agree Major Nikon Dec 2014 #15

Try not having id if the police as for. Hatchling Dec 2014 #23

I can't think of any dealings with police that are pleasant Major Nikon Dec 2014 #37

Such nice company to keep.... daleanime Dec 2014 #14

Since cops can shoot and kill people with impunity . . . Brigid Dec 2014 #16

Kim Jung * maps to Hitler. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #17

Not a Police State? Look at Occupy Wall Street! RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #45

Apparently all you really need to have a police state . . . Brigid Dec 2014 #10

Corporate is the new dictator. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2014 #22

Another good point. Present police states certainly don't have to resemble Nay Dec 2014 #54

Gulp. n/t dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #2

Very few of us are legal experts in here, except for those with law degrees, but we all world wide wally Dec 2014 #5

"Shelter in place" Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #6

Awesome response to the worst thing a parent cleduc Dec 2014 #7

I think it is of value to recognize that black men are the majority of the people target because jwirr Dec 2014 #9

Our Government has placed the police above the law. That is what we have learned sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #11

Well said. woo me with science Dec 2014 #31

Another excellent point. nt Nay Dec 2014 #55

"IF they do this to one person they can do this to any one of us" gets blank stares mulsh Dec 2014 #19

You are so right. I dared ask a question the other night cpamomfromtexas Dec 2014 #44

Nice how none of the media got back to him... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #20

Title is misleading The Blue Flower Dec 2014 #21

He got the law passed in Wisconsin - TBF Dec 2014 #24

Something's fishy treestar Dec 2014 #25

Well attested story and the author is the victim's father. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #26

The policeman who shot this kid committed suicide ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2014 #29

That guy wasn't he shooter. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #33

Oh, you're right. I missed that. ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2014 #35

Do Conservatives just make crap up? Tsiyu Dec 2014 #42

Yes, conservatives as a matter of course just make shit up and distort what isn't whole cloth. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #50

K&R The police state is deliberately constructed around us. woo me with science Dec 2014 #30

So This dad has to know Albert Gonzalez the murderer Tsiyu Dec 2014 #41

Experiencing violent death with personal involvement is often illuminating seveneyes Dec 2014 #43

A man who went into the wrong house after a night of drinking was killed by a cop undeterred Dec 2014 #46

terrible story. thanks for the link. eom LittleGirl Dec 2014 #48