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KingCharlemagne

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31. That is some seriously acerbic shit (but well put). I read somewhere back

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:35 PM

Dec 2014

when the shit initially hit the fan that Sen. Lindsey Graham had looked at some of the photos and video that wasn't released and he was visibly shaken. That tells you there is some seriously dreadful shit in there.

The fallacy of course is assuming that people in the Middle East (and the developing world) aren't already well aware of exactly what transpired in the Gulag Americanus. As one example, there were apocryphal stories out there in 2004-06 that women detained in Abu Ghraib were smuggling messages out to the Iraqi resistance begging for the female wing to be mortared because Americans (intelligence and mercenaries, mixed in with military) had brought those women such indelible shame. Now that is some seriously fucked-up shit.

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So we all know torture happened, yet if we hold people accountable hostages might be killed? [View all] ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 OP

K&R 99Forever Dec 2014 #1

i thougt Udall was in favor of releasing it JI7 Dec 2014 #2

Udall is, Kerry is not. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #4

but Udall is a third way dlc type dem which is why he lost his election JI7 Dec 2014 #14

You can't fix stupid. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #3

Delaying the release is not the same thing as never releasing it. The torture has stopped and Obama okaawhatever Dec 2014 #5

Did people die when Obama admitted to it? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #6

No, not nonsense. Reality. The fear is for Americans abroad and American hostages, plus the Iran okaawhatever Dec 2014 #7

You don't think those who were tortured already know it? Your logic is a major fail. Scuba Dec 2014 #8

Americans aren't ignorant of it. Obama has admitted it publicly. This report has been in the press okaawhatever Dec 2014 #10

So then what's the difference? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #11

So why not release it? Scuba Dec 2014 #21

Answer my question... ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #9

Why do you think "most countries" are torturing people? Dragonfli Dec 2014 #12

propaganda propaganda propaganda BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #16

Here's the thing, what the CIA did to detainees is no secret 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #13

They're slow walking it to protect the powerful. neverforget Dec 2014 #15

To protect the guilty powerful and their underlings who actually performed the torture. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #17

The leaders of the world never prosecute one another because they know one day it could and liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #19

This. LeftOfWest Dec 2014 #20

It was bad enough Bush, Cheney and their merry cohorts weren't prosecuted. Vinca Dec 2014 #22

There might be a good reason to delay release. Vattel Dec 2014 #23

The truth is Kerry is not the impetus, he is the smoke screen reddread Dec 2014 #24

anybody thinks torture has been stopped is just kidding themselves KG Dec 2014 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #32

Holding folks accountable for torture would be like... stone space Dec 2014 #26

Since they always have hostages, nilesobek Dec 2014 #27

I wonder if they're stonewalling and obfuscating because they are KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #28

Often heroic folks under a lot of pressure sodomize children. Dragonfli Dec 2014 #30

That is some seriously acerbic shit (but well put). I read somewhere back KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #31

The report has not been released and yet Americans avebury Dec 2014 #29