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In reply to the discussion: Maurice Sendak was gay. [View all]

fishwax

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34. "When the grand majority of people die, no one really talks abt their sexual gender or orientation"
Wed May 9, 2012, 12:46 PM
May 2012

Last edited Wed May 9, 2012, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

But they do, by prominently mentioning their marriage(s) and the relationships that stem from them, which are a significant (and often extensive) part of most obituaries. Many stories Sendak, on the other hand, have not even mentioned the fact that he was in a committed relationship for 50 years that ended only with his partner's death five years ago. I haven't read many that made more than passing mention of it. That strikes me as unusual.

This is a double standard that extends to other aspects of life for members of the gay community--for instance, it is not at all uncommon for people in an office setting to display pictorial evidence of their heterosexual relationships (wedding pictures, vacation pictures, etc.) or for a straight man (for example) to talk freely and unthinkingly about what he and his wife/girlfriend/what-have-you did over the weekend.

But if a gay man puts up pictures of his husband and their kids or talks about what he and the hubby did on vacation he can (in most states) be fired, and such behavior is likely to be referred to by a certain segment of straights who "don't mind people being gay as long as they don't make a big deal out of it" as "shoving it in our faces."

On edit: changed "one" to "many" in the penultimate sentence of the first paragraph because there have been a few that did.

Maurice Sendak was gay. [View all] hedgehog May 2012 OP
du rec. nt xchrom May 2012 #1
Absolutely right. randome May 2012 #2
Fatigue. n/t earthside May 2012 #3
Right - and an atheist too, which is not even mentioned once. dmallind May 2012 #4
He believed in something I think - hedgehog May 2012 #5
Atheists always believe in something. jobycom May 2012 #8
Yes - metaphors are often used by all English speakers dmallind May 2012 #19
Yes, exactly, and he knew they were metaphors. jobycom May 2012 #36
Dickison and Mozart. girl gone mad May 2012 #66
Not from his own words dmallind May 2012 #18
I didn't know that. He had a superb talent for writing MineralMan May 2012 #6
When i read the title and before reading Smilo May 2012 #7
His partner went first. Interesting story. jobycom May 2012 #9
That is so sad to know. God bless all the brave people out there hedgehog May 2012 #11
Thanks for the info. Smilo May 2012 #15
Fifty years? And that wasn't a marriage, North Carolina? FIFTY YEARS? aquart May 2012 #41
I share your ambivalence - his sexuality shouldn't be the focus, hedgehog May 2012 #10
RIP zzaapp May 2012 #12
If Mr. Sendak chose not to emphasize his orientation in life, why should we? bluedigger May 2012 #13
Context is everything - some day (soon?) it wouldn't matter. hedgehog May 2012 #14
because being gay in america is still a sin or an abnormality by too many fascisthunter May 2012 #17
We don't need a reason. closeupready May 2012 #23
When I die lots of people will talk about the relationship I have with my wife. AngryAmish May 2012 #16
Lovely thread malaise May 2012 #20
It has really brought out the closet-keepers kenny blankenship May 2012 #46
Why does this have to be made an issue? If he was gay, that is great but so what? BoWanZi May 2012 #21
Easy for you to say. Tunnel vision, much? closeupready May 2012 #24
does not mean we need to parade his private life around posthumously AlbertCat May 2012 #27
You TOTALLY missed my point BoWanZi May 2012 #31
I NEVER said pretend he was straight... Why does it have to be one way or another? AlbertCat May 2012 #35
We are to respect what Maurice wanted in life and death, it sounds like he wanted his orientation... BoWanZi May 2012 #37
He's dead,he's not reading DU and cursing sufrommich May 2012 #42
"When the grand majority of people die, no one really talks abt their sexual gender or orientation" fishwax May 2012 #34
I guess things were different for me in the office I used to work at BoWanZi May 2012 #40
that's great and all, but you do realize that's not exactly the rule, right? fishwax May 2012 #44
Errr! Sex choices! Bad "choice" of words, I should know better than that BoWanZi May 2012 #52
I sure hope so. closeupready May 2012 #22
terry gross replayed parts of several interviews yesterday Mosby May 2012 #25
Thanks for the link. progressoid May 2012 #32
nice little interview . . . to the point of life and death bigtree May 2012 #60
(2010) "Maurice Sendak Donates a Million in Memory of his Partner" G_j May 2012 #26
Wow, a great role model in so many ways klook May 2012 #67
it was a great obit and cali May 2012 #28
"All I wanted was to be straight so my parents could be happy" oberliner May 2012 #29
Maybe they're showing respect by ignoring something that's not relevant... brooklynite May 2012 #30
and how many.... BillStein May 2012 #43
I would guess most fishwax May 2012 #48
From the current NY Times obits... brooklynite May 2012 #53
are those heterosexual authors? fishwax May 2012 #54
uh, you do get that Dr. Glynn is dead and couldn't confirm cali May 2012 #57
It has to do with, in the opinion of the OP, obits that aren't respectful... brooklynite May 2012 #61
Thank you. We're still getting "straightwashed" even after all these years. Maven May 2012 #33
"Straightwashed". I love that. Thanks! closeupready May 2012 #45
Go right ahead! I can't claim the credit Maven May 2012 #64
It's sad. LeftyMom May 2012 #50
colbert ran a nice piece on him last night dembotoz May 2012 #38
So what? RebelOne May 2012 #39
People's relationships are part of the story of their lives. LeftyMom May 2012 #47
He was notoriously reticent about cali May 2012 #49
Concealing his relationship in telling the story of his life posthumously closets him. LeftyMom May 2012 #51
they didn't conceal it. it was right there. cali May 2012 #55
Would you want your fifty year marriage to be a neglected afterthought in the story of your life? LeftyMom May 2012 #56
I'm me. Not anyone else. cali May 2012 #58
Now you know what he wanted? LeftyMom May 2012 #59
actually, I think cali May 2012 #63
Gay AND an Atheist Taverner May 2012 #62
He created a world that my son loved. Bosso 63 May 2012 #65
k&r n/t RainDog May 2012 #68
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