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gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
67. Oh no need to remind me.
Tue May 12, 2015, 12:28 PM
May 2015

I confined my first response specifically to criticizing Dr. Higgs.

But then you defended the statement. Then it became yours too. That's how that works.


Of course they are. Some will be religiously based. Some will be based on race or skin tone. Some rules will be based on where you were born or who your parents were. And some will be downright evil whose point is merely to extract money from innocent people, etc. And the people that enforce such laws are taking that evil unto themselves, if you will pardon the biblical soundng prose.


See? You just did it again.


So now I ask YOU, instead of asking Dr. Higgs.


How is society supposed to work in your mind? Are all law enforcement officials supposed to quit their jobs the instant a law you disagree with is put on the books... otherwise they become evil? So the instant a democratically elected assembly passes a law you don't like the choices are "all cops become evil, or we abandon the enforcement of all laws?


Or are we supposed to grant police officers the authority to dictate which laws they enforce all by themselves, thus granting them the power to supercede the democratically elected government at will? And that was we could at least have some percentage of them deciding to enforce only the laws you like, and we could allow them the label of "good cops"?


Or, is there a third utopian option in your mind?

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Big K & R nt okaawhatever May 2015 #1
How these cops keep their job is beyond me. Police "union" defends them I am sure. Assholes! nt Logical May 2015 #2
I wish all unions were as successful at defending their members. Vincardog May 2015 #9
Good point. zentrum May 2015 #29
I don't mythology May 2015 #35
It's their function to defend their members. If you are arguing for more oversight and maybe Vincardog May 2015 #42
I hadn't thought of it before awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #52
I noticed that sometime ago atreides1 May 2015 #56
... Faux pas May 2015 #3
False arrest. Maybe DeBlasio will rethink his sudden conversion to the nice officers at the NYPD. libdem4life May 2015 #4
top link = "page not found" dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #5
It goes on and on, doesn't it..what a train wreck. K&R Jefferson23 May 2015 #6
And the myth of the "good cop" continues to be debunked. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #7
Oh FFS. gcomeau May 2015 #8
Actually, they DO MohRokTah May 2015 #11
Sigh... gcomeau May 2015 #12
As William James famously observed, you only need one white crow to prove Jackpine Radical May 2015 #13
What is the precise percentage, and on what objective measure is that number based off? LanternWaste May 2015 #59
Sorry, all 11 species of Corvidae are grouped together. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #61
Racist! IronLionZion May 2015 #62
1 good cop in the entire country. MohRokTah May 2015 #14
It's not one genius. gcomeau May 2015 #16
I don't for a minute believe even that cop is a mythical "good cop" MohRokTah May 2015 #17
Oh, you're telepathic now are you? gcomeau May 2015 #19
No, he did not immediately arrest the corrupt cops. MohRokTah May 2015 #21
He followed process. gcomeau May 2015 #22
HE saw laws being broken. PRocedure would dictate an arrest. MohRokTah May 2015 #23
Did you actually watch It All? How many "good cops" did we count on that video? I read libdem4life May 2015 #31
One disproves the claim that there are none. gcomeau May 2015 #32
Why did he observe the commission of crimes and not place the criminals under immediate arrest? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #41
Yes, one does a trend make. The entire world/entire country ?????? Overreact much? libdem4life May 2015 #43
Actually, the above is one of the *very few instances* of that kind of thing occurring. villager May 2015 #51
so the good cops are being drummed out.. frylock May 2015 #53
Mok Rok Tahi, I have to agree with you. n/t truedelphi May 2015 #26
I totally agree gopiscrap May 2015 #39
"Always"? Horse-fucking-shit. riqster May 2015 #54
Always! eom MohRokTah May 2015 #55
How do you know they were good cops? Mariana May 2015 #15
I'm wiht you there. MohRokTah May 2015 #18
The Problem is the Barrel F4lconF16 May 2015 #20
Nuremburg: following orders is not a defense nt msongs May 2015 #33
+1 good point nt F4lconF16 May 2015 #34
In Nuremburg it wasn't. In the US of A for cops, the NSA, CIA and the military it is. BillZBubb May 2015 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #38
Totally agree! gopiscrap May 2015 #40
and the natural progression after iii is to act in that manner beyond the law. It's human nature, libdem4life May 2015 #44
Exactly A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #47
It's basically a secret society...the Fraternal Order of Police is not a Union name. The Silent libdem4life May 2015 #48
Absolutely! Very well said. Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #60
That quote might very well be... gcomeau May 2015 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #64
Oh I read massive amounts actually. gcomeau May 2015 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #66
Oh no need to remind me. gcomeau May 2015 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #68
Oh yes, please nitpick instead of dealing with the central issue. gcomeau May 2015 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #70
Uh-huh... gcomeau May 2015 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #72
Sure it's not... gcomeau May 2015 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #74
Wow... gcomeau May 2015 #75
I find this hard to believe! joeybee12 May 2015 #10
They have become so used to operating outside the law ... etherealtruth May 2015 #25
And if caught, joeybee12 May 2015 #27
Clearly, because who amongst them hasn't done the same thing. Thus, the Wall of Silence. libdem4life May 2015 #45
There is an officer somewhere who was caught using bigoted speech and all of his former cases jwirr May 2015 #24
I agree with you completely ...k and r...nt Stuart G May 2015 #30
Agree completely also. Iggo May 2015 #37
Fucking pigs gopiscrap May 2015 #28
Caught on audio this time. Missed 10,000 other times. Iggo May 2015 #36
Technology is doing some Spring Precinct Cleaning. Cell Phone Neighborhood Watch. libdem4life May 2015 #46
Huge kick and recommend! It is not a Few Bad Apples. It is the whole basket! Enthusiast May 2015 #49
Busted, Disgusted, and can't be Trusted. Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #57
When the police are the bad guys, who is going to police them? Initech May 2015 #58
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